or maybe its time for the whole Juve management to go, Moggi included, at least that give us a change of policy of selecting reputation ahead of potential and youth.
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[CL]Arsenal vs Juventus (19 Viewers)
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or maybe its time for the whole Juve management to go, Moggi included, at least that give us a change of policy of selecting reputation ahead of potential and youth.
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Ok enough is enough.. I cannot tolerate our performance any more. Its is terrible. The formation is stupid.
First remark: WHAT THE **** IS ZEBINA DOING ON THE FIELD??? EATING GRASS??? This player is not a regular this season, he is not playing in the serie A. Why not play MOM of the last game, Chielini?
Arsenal hunted us down from his side. Look at Luca's side, noone came from there. Cannvaro cannot play 5 roles in the same time now can he? Actually he can because this is what he has been doing all season. He is playing for everyone. I do not blame zebina. I blame Capello. Why field him? We have Chielini nad Balzaretti who are both miles better than him. 85% of his passes are wrong and dangerous. Not marking his men properly. Causing trouble to his fellow team mates. Tonight, I do not blame Maoro for getting sent off. He was playing for both him and Zebina. It is very frustrating. Maoro got 2 yellowes because he was everywhere trying to make something from nothing.
Tonight, we started off the game well. Zebina started to produce his great wrong passes till apoint where the team's compenation failed to correct. Vieira also started off well, I was very happy. Half way through the first half his performance decreased markdly to apoint he became a negative influence. Mutu was not concetrating very well plus the fact that Ibra and Trezeguet weren't moving well did not help him to build up his game. Ibrahimovic tried. It was obvious that he has not recovered physically for the match. And if Del Piero was available for this match he should've started, and if not Capello then won't be targeting the CL. Ibra was very heavy.
BUT the biggest problem of them all was the midfield. NOT THE players as much as the formation. Playing a flat 4-4-2 is a major suicide against a side like arsenal. Honestly guys, how many times did the ball go to Ibra and he looked back to the midfied (centre of the midfield) and did not find anyone to pass it to? How many times did the ball bounce for the deffence to an area where "an offensive midifielder" should come and slam the **** outta the ball into the net (aka Nedved during the Lippi years).
Arsenal were lucky on one thing though. They were lucky that both Nedved and Del Piero did not play the game. This caused a lack of offensive options for Capello.
Del Piero would've been more than happy to go back to the midfield and play as 5th midfileder in the position of "offensive midfielder".
During the first half, Arsenal had some spaces at the back. With a proper midfield we would've been able to grab atleast a single goal.
We have a very strong squad with decent number of options. Jus the fact that we had 2 of our best player ruled out of the game and we managed to have two equivelent replacements to fill in just tells you how deep our squad really is.
The best approch to tonights game should've been 4-5-1 to give more respect to Arsenal's capabilities. Something like this:
------------------ Buffon
Zambrotta -- Thuram -- Cannvaro -- Chielini
Camoranesi -- Emerson -- Vieira -- Giannicheda
-----------------------Mutu
----------------Trezeguet/Ibra
Capello... WAKE UP... We are almost out of the CL.
First remark: WHAT THE **** IS ZEBINA DOING ON THE FIELD??? EATING GRASS??? This player is not a regular this season, he is not playing in the serie A. Why not play MOM of the last game, Chielini?
Arsenal hunted us down from his side. Look at Luca's side, noone came from there. Cannvaro cannot play 5 roles in the same time now can he? Actually he can because this is what he has been doing all season. He is playing for everyone. I do not blame zebina. I blame Capello. Why field him? We have Chielini nad Balzaretti who are both miles better than him. 85% of his passes are wrong and dangerous. Not marking his men properly. Causing trouble to his fellow team mates. Tonight, I do not blame Maoro for getting sent off. He was playing for both him and Zebina. It is very frustrating. Maoro got 2 yellowes because he was everywhere trying to make something from nothing.
Tonight, we started off the game well. Zebina started to produce his great wrong passes till apoint where the team's compenation failed to correct. Vieira also started off well, I was very happy. Half way through the first half his performance decreased markdly to apoint he became a negative influence. Mutu was not concetrating very well plus the fact that Ibra and Trezeguet weren't moving well did not help him to build up his game. Ibrahimovic tried. It was obvious that he has not recovered physically for the match. And if Del Piero was available for this match he should've started, and if not Capello then won't be targeting the CL. Ibra was very heavy.
BUT the biggest problem of them all was the midfield. NOT THE players as much as the formation. Playing a flat 4-4-2 is a major suicide against a side like arsenal. Honestly guys, how many times did the ball go to Ibra and he looked back to the midfied (centre of the midfield) and did not find anyone to pass it to? How many times did the ball bounce for the deffence to an area where "an offensive midifielder" should come and slam the **** outta the ball into the net (aka Nedved during the Lippi years).
Arsenal were lucky on one thing though. They were lucky that both Nedved and Del Piero did not play the game. This caused a lack of offensive options for Capello.
Del Piero would've been more than happy to go back to the midfield and play as 5th midfileder in the position of "offensive midfielder".
During the first half, Arsenal had some spaces at the back. With a proper midfield we would've been able to grab atleast a single goal.
We have a very strong squad with decent number of options. Jus the fact that we had 2 of our best player ruled out of the game and we managed to have two equivelent replacements to fill in just tells you how deep our squad really is.
The best approch to tonights game should've been 4-5-1 to give more respect to Arsenal's capabilities. Something like this:
------------------ Buffon
Zambrotta -- Thuram -- Cannvaro -- Chielini
Camoranesi -- Emerson -- Vieira -- Giannicheda
-----------------------Mutu
----------------Trezeguet/Ibra
Capello... WAKE UP... We are almost out of the CL.
One more thing.. It is now proven that Juventus cannot, by any mean, score if Del Piero is not on the field. Its either him the one getting on the score sheet or another player from his assists.
It is sad, but thats just the way it is. Lately our offensive creativity has gone down to zero.
The only reason we were abit more creative in the beggining of the season while DP was on the bench is that Vieira was playing well both offensively and deffensively. Now, he is not playing to start with.
Another thing, please Moggi get us Grosso this summer with a proper fast CB. Give Zebina to Charity and play like Sir Lippi is playing with Italy at the back. Noone can penetrate this way.
Add to that, sell Blasi and maybe sell Vieira as well. Get a proper offenseive midfielder. Then go to Capello ask him to put a proper formation. Blackmail him that you will rape him if he does not do so.
We have the best forward line up in the whole world. If those player are not netting goals then the midfield is pure crap. Give a single team that has something comparable to Del Piero, Mutu, Ibrahimovic, Trezeguet and Zalayata as offensive options.
There were seasons with Lippi where Juve had 3 forwards only. Del Piero, Inzaghi/Trezeguet and a third player.
The worst season Sir Lippi gave us was his last. And it was not his fault. The deffence was terrible and we did not have money to buy player like Cannavaro or Vieira so he had to coup with Legro. We were offensively present with our Neddy as an offesnively midfielder. Tachinardi as DM or CM depending on the game. Maresca as a CM. Del Piero, trezeguet, Miccoli and Divaio as forwards. It was a team filled with Italian youngsters.
We have the players to dominate all tornament, yet we got knocked out of the coppa, we are almost out of the CL and god knows if we can hold on to our lead in the serie a or not.
It is sad, but thats just the way it is. Lately our offensive creativity has gone down to zero.
The only reason we were abit more creative in the beggining of the season while DP was on the bench is that Vieira was playing well both offensively and deffensively. Now, he is not playing to start with.
Another thing, please Moggi get us Grosso this summer with a proper fast CB. Give Zebina to Charity and play like Sir Lippi is playing with Italy at the back. Noone can penetrate this way.
Add to that, sell Blasi and maybe sell Vieira as well. Get a proper offenseive midfielder. Then go to Capello ask him to put a proper formation. Blackmail him that you will rape him if he does not do so.
We have the best forward line up in the whole world. If those player are not netting goals then the midfield is pure crap. Give a single team that has something comparable to Del Piero, Mutu, Ibrahimovic, Trezeguet and Zalayata as offensive options.
There were seasons with Lippi where Juve had 3 forwards only. Del Piero, Inzaghi/Trezeguet and a third player.
The worst season Sir Lippi gave us was his last. And it was not his fault. The deffence was terrible and we did not have money to buy player like Cannavaro or Vieira so he had to coup with Legro. We were offensively present with our Neddy as an offesnively midfielder. Tachinardi as DM or CM depending on the game. Maresca as a CM. Del Piero, trezeguet, Miccoli and Divaio as forwards. It was a team filled with Italian youngsters.
We have the players to dominate all tornament, yet we got knocked out of the coppa, we are almost out of the CL and god knows if we can hold on to our lead in the serie a or not.
fvck off.. this what we have seen this season from viera and co. is surly not better than tachinardi or Maresca. even if tachinardi has not the best vision and may be physicaly not the strongest, but he played with heart.. he was running, he was trying hard... we paid 20 millions for viera, and just gifted our best 2 midfielders.. Bravo Capello, bravo moggi:faq1:
Why on earth Mutu was'nt used as a support striker for Trez is beyond me!Surely if a first team regular receives a yellow & could be a non starter for the next match if given another yellow any other coach would have subbed the player?
The sad thing is that IF Juve do WIN the CL then we are fvcked coz Capello would extend his stay & continue this rather robotic performances.
Oh how i wish Vialli could bring some change & cause a major revolution in this squad.
VIALLI TO RETURN AS COACH
The sad thing is that IF Juve do WIN the CL then we are fvcked coz Capello would extend his stay & continue this rather robotic performances.
Oh how i wish Vialli could bring some change & cause a major revolution in this squad.
VIALLI TO RETURN AS COACH
Juve_25 said:
Talking about red cards. I think Camoranesi is not going to play the rest of the year in the starting 11. What the hell was he thinking of kissing the public when he got a stupid red card for just being a sissy girl?! (IMO he was really drunk 
int: ) I mean Capello probably insulted him all the night. Capello is not Lopez Caro
int: ) I mean Capello probably insulted him all the night. Capello is not Lopez Caro
Byrone said:
Why on earth Mutu was'nt used as a support striker for Trez is beyond me!Surely if a first team regular receives a yellow & could be a non starter for the next match if given another yellow any other coach would have subbed the player?
The sad thing is that IF Juve do WIN the CL then we are fvcked coz Capello would extend his stay & continue this rather robotic performances.
Oh how i wish Vialli could bring some change & cause a major revolution in this squad.
VIALLI TO RETURN AS COACH
The sad thing is that IF Juve do WIN the CL then we are fvcked coz Capello would extend his stay & continue this rather robotic performances.
Oh how i wish Vialli could bring some change & cause a major revolution in this squad.
VIALLI TO RETURN AS COACH
-Adrian will hopefully take the Playmaker role behind Dp-Trez when we'll be having a new COACH.
-Indeed, Vialli wouldn't be a bad choice.
The saddest thing about the loss to Arsenal for me was the fact that the players gave no heart in their performance.If they had chased after every ball & showed guts & determination then i would have been happy with the loss.
These players need a BIG wake up call coz to me it seemed as if they expected their past reputations & performances to do all the hard work for them.
These players need a BIG wake up call coz to me it seemed as if they expected their past reputations & performances to do all the hard work for them.
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