Ciro Immobile (13 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

Is 12M an actual set price? Even paying that wouldn't be so bad

Nah, there is no set price.

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set, you mean like a buy back clause? Or are you reffering at his market value, because just like it happened with Giovinco's case, they can ask more than his market value for his half, since they know with whom they are dealing with (MArotta)

Doesn't matter who they are dealing with, Immobile's value is much higher than when he left because he's scoring a lot of goals. Before he was a kid with few goals. Values change based on form.

That's how co-ownerships work. We can buy an improved player back for more money than we sold for, or we can sell him for the same amount and make a nice profit.

 

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[Pirlo's Beard]

Didn't think so. Unless they sell Cerci I doubt Torino could even go for 12m in a blind auction

 

[Cronios]

Is 12M an actual set price? Even paying that wouldn't be so bad

It would be the Giovinco fiasko all over again, that would once again will proove that we have learnt nothing from our mistakes...

 

[jakku7]

Didn't think so. Unless they sell Cerci I doubt Torino could even go for 12m in a blind auction

They are willing to offer 6m. We want 12m.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

It would be the Giovinco fiasko all over again, that would once again will proove that we have learnt nothing from our mistakes...

Giovinco and Immobile have no personal magical connection. One failed to live up to expectations. That has absolutely no impact on Immobile.

 

[JuveJay]

It would be the Giovinco fiasko all over again, that would once again will proove that we have learnt nothing from our mistakes...

True. We should sell Immobile and make the profit...lol?

 

[Cronios]

Doesn't matter who they are dealing with, Immobile's value is much higher than when he left because he's scoring a lot of goals. Before he was a kid with few goals. Values change based on form.
That's how co-ownerships work. We can buy an improved player back for more money than we sold for, or we can sell him for the same amount and make a nice profit.

It does matter, if you sell smth to a rich fool, you can make a better profit out of it, thats a global fact in all kinds of markets.

Apart from form, there are more factors that matter though, potential for example, how was this player's half was rated for 2.75mil in less than a season ago?

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Immobile never was a kid "with few goals", he is scoring machine

 

[j0ker]

Yay, I get an infraction, but shitting all over the forum is okay.

 

[JuveJay]

Apart from form, there are more actors that matter though, potential for example, how was this player's half was rated for 2.75mil in less than a season ago?

I see this bit confuses you. That was his value, that is what clubs were willing to pay for him. Torino are hardly going to pay us €10m for his half because he might have a great season. He might get injured and never play. He might totally flop and score 3 goals. Then his value remains much the same or less. Clubs don't have the benefit of your crystal ball.

I don't really fancy going over the detailed pros and cons of co-ownerships versus loans for the 20th time, but suffice to say it's in Torino's interests to improve the player. They were the only team who took a gamble on him - and it is a gamble for them too - and it has paid off. Otherwise he goes on loan elsewhere again and that club has no vested interest in developing him as a player. A club who loans wants a player ready to perform.

 

[rakib567]

Torino Need €12 Million To Keep Star Forward

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/03/torino-need-e12-million-to-keep-star-forward/


so if torino need 12m then we would need 12m unless beppe is a moron and pays more than that like he did with giovinco.

 

[JuveJay]

Immobile never was a kid "with few goals", he is scoring machine

In Serie A he'd scored 5 goals in a season. His Serie B scoring was in a Zeman team with Insigne and Verratti assisting...

 

[Red]

Yay, I get an infraction, but shitting all over the forum is okay.

Simply being an imbecile is not infraction-worthy, unfortunately.

 

[JuveJay]

Torino Need €12 Million To Keep Star Forward

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/2014/03/torino-need-e12-million-to-keep-star-forward/


so if torino need 12m then we would need 12m unless beppe is a moron and pays more than that like he did with giovinco.

Assuming that article is not just made up, as it probably is, then that just means that Torino need to pay €12m to tempt us to sell our half. It doesn't say we need to pay €12m to match it. We have financial clout that Torino do not, the ball is almost always in the court of the larger co-owner.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would say Immobile's current value is €24m.

 

[Cronios]

Anyways, regardless of the price of his contract, this is a loan from us, we had his full contract, we are loaning him and also giving the rights for 50% of his contract for that ammount.
But why do they always get to keep the player? Cant we find a way to get him back, without buying back his contract, test him in deep water and if he cant compete let them keep him for those 12mil.
If Marotta was unable to negotiate a better price for his half and also was unable to enter a buy-back clause close to his acquisition price, then at least he stop conceding the right to player the player indefinitly.
He was our player, our terms, how can are getting owned again?
Esp after what Parma did to us with Giovinco?

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I don't think anyone in their right mind would say Immobile's current value is €24m.

Giovinco's price wasnt either, but it didnt stop Parma to ask for such cash...
Thats, just because they know they were dealing with Marotta, no other transfer manager would concede that much...

 

[JuveJay]

Giovinco's price wasnt either, but it didnt stop Parma to ask for such cash...
Thats, just because they know they were dealing with Marotta, no other transfer manager would concede that much...

Ignoring your tired routine, form does force people's hands. You pay more for players in form, unless there is some loophole like contract length or financial crisis with the other club. That's it.

 

[Vlad]

Shut the fuck up, seriously.

 

[Cronios]

Ignoring your tired routine, form does force people's hands. You pay more for players in form, unless there is some loophole like contract length or financial crisis with the other club. That's it.

Form explains his 24mil price tag now, or his 5.5mil tag last year?

 

[Vlad]

Simply being an imbecile is not infraction-worthy, unfortunately.

Im dying here

 

[swag]

In Serie A he'd scored 5 goals in a season. His Serie B scoring was in a Zeman team with Insigne and Verratti assisting...

Sounds about right.