Ciro Ferrara (65 Viewers)

Max

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Jul 15, 2003
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I like Guus, but I'm not a fan of his itchy feet. Maybe he's hiding something when he bounces after a half-season?
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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:agree:

Dealing with his subs? finding a quick solution when things go wrong during the game itself? benefiting from Seba?
I was leaning more towards fixing the mental aspects of the team members. Getting their heads back one track, give them more drive passion and believe. I will never forget the looks of the players at the end of the 1st half against Calgiari with their heads down and looking defeated. He needs to fix that.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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I was leaning more towards fixing the mental aspects of the team members. Getting their heads back one track, give them more drive passion and believe. I will never forget the looks of the players at the end of the 1st half against Calgiari with their heads down and looking defeated. He needs to fix that.
I agree on that too :agree:
 

cimenk

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Jul 23, 2008
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Actually, the 4-3-1-2 system worked well and Diego had his best games when the other 3 central midfielders were dynamic. When Tiago, Marchisio and Melo played behind him and were in form we had our best performances. And the second problem arose when the two playing upfront were flat and not offering much, especially Amauri.
Spot on Jack, 4-3-1-2 is the best formation that fits our squad, but again we need dynamic CM.. If you use Tiago, Melo, Marchisio so where will we put Momo. That's why our system are screwed when we played Momo with Melo because they can't pass well. I do miss Zanetti and his vision in time like this. Should have bought D'Agostino
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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@Bisco

:beer: enjoyed reading you're post, and i do agree with everything you said there.

I too think that Ferrara should be given more time to settle and do he's work without a huge pressure. And you're comparison with Inter is spot on and thats what i really hope we don't end up be.
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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@Bisco

:beer: enjoyed reading you're post, and i do agree with everything you said there.

I too think that Ferrara should be given more time to settle and do he's work without a huge pressure. And you're comparison with Inter is spot on and thats what i really hope we don't end up be.
i hope soo too only-juve, i think it would be a mistake not too give him time. thanks for the nice words :beer:
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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I'm not really a fan of Prandelli, but I don't see how you can say that when he hasn't managed a 'big club'.
How can you honestly say that?

Look at what he's done with Fiorentina. He literally helped raise that club from THE DEAD.

Look at his track record in regards to transfers and development of young players and reclamation projects.

Now give him a team with a bigger budget than he ever imagined having, and you can only imagine what he would do
It's what I think. There are many coaches that can lead smaller teams but when they come to bigger club they change their style and it becomes awful.

Conte would do it, Gasparini would do it and Prandelli would do it. And they will look like average coaches.

We'll see when he changes his environment.
 

Red

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Nov 26, 2006
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What makes you think this?

A lack of tactical nous? A lack of presence? Lack of guts?

Can you name a coach in world football who has not managed a big club that you think would do well at one?
 

Dostoevsky

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May 27, 2007
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What makes you think this?

A lack of tactical nous? A lack of presence? Lack of guts?

Can you name a coach in world football who has not managed a big club that you think would do well at one?
I have a feeling because I don't think he's good enough to go on that level. How can I or you know some question like that can't be answered really, we'll have to wait and see.

I liked Pellegrini before he moved to Real. Now I can't think of any other, I'm out of ideas.
 

BIG DADDY!!!

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Mar 12, 2004
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@Bisco

:beer: enjoyed reading you're post, and i do agree with everything you said there.

I too think that Ferrara should be given more time to settle and do he's work without a huge pressure. And you're comparison with Inter is spot on and thats what i really hope we don't end up be.
We are developing their mentality.

Every week our staff and players were saying how we can win the Scudetto and having digs at Inter, while Inter players remain quiet and do their talking on the pitch just like we used to. :sergio:
 

BIG DADDY!!!

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Mar 12, 2004
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That to be expected of him and his ego though, I mean the players, they go out and win matches and don't blow their own trumpet everytime they put 4 or 5 goals against Atalanta or Sampdoria.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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Coaching philosophy

In his book Il Gioco delle Idee: Pensieri e Passioni da Bordo Campo (A Game of Ideas: Thoughts and Passions from the Sidelines), Lippi outlined his coaching philosophy. First and foremost, Lippi emphasizes the importance of team spirit and team unity. Lippi likens a psychologically well integrated football team to the functioning of a psychologically healthy family. On the strategic aspect of coaching, Lippi emphasizes the importance of the mutual relations between players. Players must all follow the same plan and play for each other, "not" for themselves. Importantly, Lippi argues that "a group of the best players do not necessarily make for the best team." What is more important, he argues, is that the tactical plan or formation is one that allows each player to maximize (1) their utility for their teammates and (2) the expression of their full potential. Moreover, Lippi also notes that the choice of tactical formation is necessarily constrained by the qualities of the players available. Thus, selecting the best possible team not only requires finding the right combination of players for the chosen formation, but also finding right formation for the chosen players. Hence the title of his book, A Game of Ideas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcello_Lippi

i think ferrera is a student of the lippi way of coaching and i would imagine it a massive mistake to let go of him now, yes he has a lot to deal with but i'm sure he will get it right and as soon as he gets this machine oiled up he will def lead us back to where we belong. i hate to see our team become inter which never gave its managers a chance to sort there team out. a good example is lippi at inter who was sacked by inter just to go back to juve and win the league!! lets give him time we were never contenders for the league nor the cl realistically not bec we dont have the talent or world class players but simply bec we are still looking for the perfect formation and style of play to get the best out of this team.

imo ferrera needs to impose his philosophy, not just listen to our wishes or the wishes and suggestions of news papers. he is not an idiot. he needs to have guts to bench players who are under performing even if they are juventus living legends if its for the best for the team.

Sounds to me that Ciro hasnt read Lippi`s book.
 

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