Apparently 4 at the back. Everything else can (/will) change according to the available players or the opponent
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Exactly, but he is saluted as being the only thing our team ever needed and didnt have, up until now...
Except by Inter and to win it, we need to win them.
We need to make less mistakes than them and become more efficient!
Keep in mind, as they will see us pushing forward, they will try even harder.
No one has forced to try for the past years, they have won with cruising speed...
Because we cannot afford to create the squad they posses, we should focus to optimize our management and starter material!
And beat them, where it counts!
IMO we never had the material to pose a threat, we need many more years of building and judging by the way we have done so far and the rate of adding one quality starter/season. We will make a competitive year in a decade...
We never pressed them to give their best, they can do much much better than that! And we have seen last year how are we going to be treated if we really pose a threat to them!
Yes, this team will fail to win the title because of the defenders anyway.
But a bad coach can make even more damage than that. Thats the risk one team of our class cant afford to take, in both players and coaches.
Thats why the natural course of things dictate, that smaller teams who have little or nothing to lose, will take that risk for us!
I never blaimed CR for not winning the league and i will not blame Ciro either.
On the contrary, i am afraid that he might be considered a failure, despite achieving our realistic targets and this might hurt his carrier!
Indeed, that was, what i was expecting from Ciro in so little time and he has delivered! I am happy and proud/confident of that!
CR failed to see that, for two years!
But without the proper tools, the competitive teams, will exploit our weakness, despite the re-calibrated tactical adjustments, that will increase our defensive efficiency, only by those changes!
Our board has decided that they want some cheap unknown quantity on our bench, someone who can be easily manipulated and wont make any demands.
Thats why we have thrown away DD and got DD.
And thats why we are not interested to bring a prestigious coach and prefer no ones.
Ferrara, by default will have his hands tied, we have seen enough in the last 3 years to know that. I hoped that this year Elkann will bring some changes and we will bring a new master tactician, who will have the authority to make the proper adjustments. We have seen what Gigli and Secco are capable of.
And i m very sorry that nothing have changed...
Thats the best case scenario, but again that might not be enough to win us smth.
In the mean time, signing players like Dagostino, Canna, Mellberg, Pandev, Poulsen and Salvio the quality percentage of our team doesnt improve and we are not closing the gap of quality between us Inter and Europe's most competitive teams. We are just wasting time with sidesteps...
For no real momentary gains!
He has got less to complain about....still he will always find something.
Diego...not good enough.
Cannavaro...not good enough, too old.
D'agostino....nope, not good enough
Criscito....still not the answer to our defense
Ciro...unproven, not good enough for Juve[/QUOTE]
I was very very glad we got Diego, i called that the best transfer this board has ever done!
Canna is indeed too old, ppl think that we have signed the old Canna back, like the time has stopped...
Dagostino should be bought instead of Poulsen, or by Almirons and Tiagos funds.
IMO our defensive enhancement was a priority and might be comprimised, just it was compromised when we have allocated the funds to buy Poulsen last year!
I ve always believed in Criscito, just criticized who Secco and CR dealt with him.
And yes, i believe that we are not that desperate and we can find a better coach if we wont to!!!
I was right about Amauri, not being able to score as many goals as Treze and not being able to save our defense to concede more goals than we score!
These were my points of criticism, i never attacked the player, but our priorities!
I would welcome Benzema any day, he is not a Pandev, Lavezzi, Cassano, Quaq, AquaFresca etc, he has world class potential!!
As for the rest, i believe that we are very well equipped on our offense and we have invested enough for the past 3 years. It is time to look into our defense, for a change... And then, i wont mind any of those forwards to come, BUT NOT INSTEAD of defenders!
All i am saying for all those years, is that we should upgrade our most incompetent starters, that are dragging down our team, before we start fine tuning the line who are stacked up with competent starters and promising youngster material!!
I dont think that it is so hard for a team like Juve to find better starter choices, than Molinaro, Legro, Grygera and Marchionni!!!
We could add two starters last year and two this year and field a competitive squad. However we are just spending the money who could have solved those problems to extra subbers!!
I have explained in great detail, why these players would be our starters and how they are going to drag our team down, even before the season started.
No reason no explain it once more, as history has proved it!
And we have done nothing to prevent it.
If you missed that, i assume that you have missed our season too.
You should know better than that...
On the contrary, if we were buying a good defender instead of Poulsen,
we could afford to field a more offensive midfield, without the necessity of two defensive minded wingers.
We could afford to use Giovinco more and CR wouldnt have to sub out Camo for Marchionni...
Even so, despite our defensive minded midfield, imposed by our weak defense,
we have encountered more problems not to conceded a goal, than scoring it!!
Think about it!!
The quality percentage of our first eleven is not increased by Dagostinos.
Marchisio isnt that bad. Moli, Grygera and Marchio are.
Lets say Dagostino is 5% better than Marchisio, think what we could add with a RB or LB of Dagostino's value, as an upgrade to Moli or Grygera.
We could gain a 50-100% improvement there!! See my point??
As for Zebina, he has proved that he is as injury prone as Tudor.
It doesnt matter if he is better than Grygera or not, he is not reliable enough to rely upon. We have wasted enough years waiting for him!
Grygera as a starter for a third consecutive year is a disgrace!!
It is an easy thing to create a turning point and gain some momentum.
But much more difficult thing to sustain it! Motivators effects dont last forever.
We might be happy and pleased now, cheered by the hope that Ciro MIGHT be proved as good as Pep. But what will happen in our first reality check?
A no one will collapse way faster than a prestigious coach!
And might not even have the chance for a second try...
C moon, we are not that Juve and Traps dont appear every day.
And those were different times, as his carrier has proved lately...
Except by Inter and to win it, we need to win them.
We need to make less mistakes than them and become more efficient!
Keep in mind, as they will see us pushing forward, they will try even harder.
No one has forced to try for the past years, they have won with cruising speed...
Because we cannot afford to create the squad they posses, we should focus to optimize our management and starter material!
And beat them, where it counts!
IMO we never had the material to pose a threat, we need many more years of building and judging by the way we have done so far and the rate of adding one quality starter/season. We will make a competitive year in a decade...
We never pressed them to give their best, they can do much much better than that! And we have seen last year how are we going to be treated if we really pose a threat to them!
Yes, this team will fail to win the title because of the defenders anyway.
But a bad coach can make even more damage than that. Thats the risk one team of our class cant afford to take, in both players and coaches.
Thats why the natural course of things dictate, that smaller teams who have little or nothing to lose, will take that risk for us!
I never blaimed CR for not winning the league and i will not blame Ciro either.
On the contrary, i am afraid that he might be considered a failure, despite achieving our realistic targets and this might hurt his carrier!
Indeed, that was, what i was expecting from Ciro in so little time and he has delivered! I am happy and proud/confident of that!
CR failed to see that, for two years!
But without the proper tools, the competitive teams, will exploit our weakness, despite the re-calibrated tactical adjustments, that will increase our defensive efficiency, only by those changes!
Our board has decided that they want some cheap unknown quantity on our bench, someone who can be easily manipulated and wont make any demands.
Thats why we have thrown away DD and got DD.
And thats why we are not interested to bring a prestigious coach and prefer no ones.
Ferrara, by default will have his hands tied, we have seen enough in the last 3 years to know that. I hoped that this year Elkann will bring some changes and we will bring a new master tactician, who will have the authority to make the proper adjustments. We have seen what Gigli and Secco are capable of.
And i m very sorry that nothing have changed...
Thats the best case scenario, but again that might not be enough to win us smth.
In the mean time, signing players like Dagostino, Canna, Mellberg, Pandev, Poulsen and Salvio the quality percentage of our team doesnt improve and we are not closing the gap of quality between us Inter and Europe's most competitive teams. We are just wasting time with sidesteps...
For no real momentary gains!
He has got less to complain about....still he will always find something.
Diego...not good enough.
Cannavaro...not good enough, too old.
D'agostino....nope, not good enough
Criscito....still not the answer to our defense
Ciro...unproven, not good enough for Juve[/QUOTE]
I was very very glad we got Diego, i called that the best transfer this board has ever done!
Canna is indeed too old, ppl think that we have signed the old Canna back, like the time has stopped...
Dagostino should be bought instead of Poulsen, or by Almirons and Tiagos funds.
IMO our defensive enhancement was a priority and might be comprimised, just it was compromised when we have allocated the funds to buy Poulsen last year!
I ve always believed in Criscito, just criticized who Secco and CR dealt with him.
And yes, i believe that we are not that desperate and we can find a better coach if we wont to!!!
I was right about Amauri, not being able to score as many goals as Treze and not being able to save our defense to concede more goals than we score!
These were my points of criticism, i never attacked the player, but our priorities!
I would welcome Benzema any day, he is not a Pandev, Lavezzi, Cassano, Quaq, AquaFresca etc, he has world class potential!!
As for the rest, i believe that we are very well equipped on our offense and we have invested enough for the past 3 years. It is time to look into our defense, for a change... And then, i wont mind any of those forwards to come, BUT NOT INSTEAD of defenders!
All i am saying for all those years, is that we should upgrade our most incompetent starters, that are dragging down our team, before we start fine tuning the line who are stacked up with competent starters and promising youngster material!!
I dont think that it is so hard for a team like Juve to find better starter choices, than Molinaro, Legro, Grygera and Marchionni!!!
We could add two starters last year and two this year and field a competitive squad. However we are just spending the money who could have solved those problems to extra subbers!!
I have explained in great detail, why these players would be our starters and how they are going to drag our team down, even before the season started.
No reason no explain it once more, as history has proved it!
And we have done nothing to prevent it.
If you missed that, i assume that you have missed our season too.
You should know better than that...
On the contrary, if we were buying a good defender instead of Poulsen,
we could afford to field a more offensive midfield, without the necessity of two defensive minded wingers.
We could afford to use Giovinco more and CR wouldnt have to sub out Camo for Marchionni...
Even so, despite our defensive minded midfield, imposed by our weak defense,
we have encountered more problems not to conceded a goal, than scoring it!!
Think about it!!
The quality percentage of our first eleven is not increased by Dagostinos.
Marchisio isnt that bad. Moli, Grygera and Marchio are.
Lets say Dagostino is 5% better than Marchisio, think what we could add with a RB or LB of Dagostino's value, as an upgrade to Moli or Grygera.
We could gain a 50-100% improvement there!! See my point??
As for Zebina, he has proved that he is as injury prone as Tudor.
It doesnt matter if he is better than Grygera or not, he is not reliable enough to rely upon. We have wasted enough years waiting for him!
Grygera as a starter for a third consecutive year is a disgrace!!
It is an easy thing to create a turning point and gain some momentum.
But much more difficult thing to sustain it! Motivators effects dont last forever.
We might be happy and pleased now, cheered by the hope that Ciro MIGHT be proved as good as Pep. But what will happen in our first reality check?
A no one will collapse way faster than a prestigious coach!
And might not even have the chance for a second try...
C moon, we are not that Juve and Traps dont appear every day.
And those were different times, as his carrier has proved lately...
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Ferrara announcement soon
Ciro Ferrara has left Coverciano were Italy are currently training to become the new Coach of Juventus, according to Sky Italia.
The 42-year-old took charge of the Bianconeri on a temporary basis when Claudio Ranieri was fired with two games of the season remaining.
Juventus were looking to appoint a trainer of great experience, but Ferrara reportedly impressed them after winning his first two matches at the helm.
Luciano Spalletti was the favourite for the post, however, he has now decided to stay at Roma until his contract expires in 2011.
The Italian Press believe Juventus have followed the Barcelona school of thought by appointing a young trainer from within.
Pep Guardiola has enjoyed enormous success in his first season with the Blaugrana and Juventus hope Ferrara will do the same.
Ferrara will apparently sign a two-year deal and his formal unveiling should be held some time on Monday.
- Channel4
Ciro Ferrara has left Coverciano were Italy are currently training to become the new Coach of Juventus, according to Sky Italia.
The 42-year-old took charge of the Bianconeri on a temporary basis when Claudio Ranieri was fired with two games of the season remaining.
Juventus were looking to appoint a trainer of great experience, but Ferrara reportedly impressed them after winning his first two matches at the helm.
Luciano Spalletti was the favourite for the post, however, he has now decided to stay at Roma until his contract expires in 2011.
The Italian Press believe Juventus have followed the Barcelona school of thought by appointing a young trainer from within.
Pep Guardiola has enjoyed enormous success in his first season with the Blaugrana and Juventus hope Ferrara will do the same.
Ferrara will apparently sign a two-year deal and his formal unveiling should be held some time on Monday.
- Channel4
"The Italian Press believe Juventus have followed the Barcelona school of thought by appointing a young trainer from within.
Pep Guardiola has enjoyed enormous success in his first season with the Blaugrana and Juventus hope Ferrara will do the same. "
Thats really the most retarded way to think!!!
Only small time clubs, dream like that with their eyes open!!
Pep Guardiola has enjoyed enormous success in his first season with the Blaugrana and Juventus hope Ferrara will do the same. "
Thats really the most retarded way to think!!!
Only small time clubs, dream like that with their eyes open!!
