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Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Religion fanatism, Nationalism, Racism you name them as long as it is dividing people, or making some of them think they are better than the others, ie black or white, Muslim or Christian, Israeli or Arab, If you have individuals like these, like you said it is easy to influence them, and you can use books or leaders as tools and control them the way you want, isn't it to do with stupidity? that you let others to control you, instead of choosing your life the way you want, and not live for others?
You call it "stupidity", which is trivializing a serious problem. And by that you excuse religion for only being a potent drug for those who are "stupid enough" to buy into it. But I disagree. Well unless you include all of us into that definition, because we're all prone to be influenced.
 

K0STA

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Jul 12, 2006
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Actually, that's wishful thinking. People are prone to influence. How did Hitler make an entire nation believe in his bullshit? We're not as resistant as we think. Religion is a fantastic tool for manipulating people, one of the best ones we have.
Off this Topic, but as u mentioned Hitler- I just wanna add something more:

It wasn't Hitler's Idea, there was also Haushoffer (probably misspellled it) who was one of the friends and "students" of Giorgi (George) Gurjiev (By the was born in Georgia, and when I write about Georgia here some have alergy on that it is really interesting country;):)) Gurjiev (there's no widespread talking abot him ;)) was also Stalin's "friend" (They once even came back to Georgia Together in 1918 or so) ;) And Stalin also took away the Ideology from Gurjiev and did what he did;

Gurjiev was out of politics and studied Human Behaviour and ways of controling them; Even had his OWN society in france, made them work etc.

Hitlers and Stalins Ideology was based on similar principals, difference is that Stalin was smarter;) And Hitler went into Fanatism, and some say that when Hitler went too far, Hausshoffer and others tried to kill him (He survived and later Hitler commited suicide)
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
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You call it "stupidity", which is trivializing a serious problem. And by that you excuse religion for only being a potent drug for those who are "stupid enough" to buy into it. But I disagree. Well unless you include all of us into that definition, because we're all prone to be influenced.
no I didn't say whoever buys religion is stupid, I can't talk about other books (am sure most of them the same), but Bible forbids killing or suicide, or dividing people, or any of those I mentioned (ofcourse you can find lines and tell me the opposite, but in general it is not like that).. the stupidity starts when you became fanatic, and when you categorize yourself as a chrisitian/Muslim/Jew like "we are this, you are that, we are right you are wrong. blah blah".. It is something between you and God (If you believe in his existence ofcourse), and not between you and other people.. when you categorize yourself like that, you see yourself superior to others, Just like race and nationality, that was my point..
 
Jul 23, 2006
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Al-Jazeera wouldn't do such a program mocking the Christian community because there are Christian arabs who watch the channel


about mocking the west, i'm not sure y they haven't done that(maybe because there are more important things to discuss)
 
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Chxta

Chxta

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Nov 1, 2004
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    There nothing you won't hear of in God's own country.....read on....

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    March 13, 2007 — As a girl, Sunny Lane wanted to be a professional ice skater.

    Her mother, Shelby, decorated her glittery competition costumes, and her dad, Mike, cheered for his only child from the sidelines.

    Years later, they're still at it — only now they're helping their daughter chase her dreams of becoming a porn star.

    "I like to be in front of the camera," Sunny said. "I like to show my talent. I have many, many talents in a lot of different areas, and I want to show them."

    But it's more than just showing off the physical assets and the innocent pouts that have earned her the nickname the "Shirley Temple of Porn," because she looks much younger than she is. Sunny will only say that she's in her 20s.

    "It would totally mess the fantasy up for my fans," she said about her reluctance to reveal her age. "I look very young, which I'm very grateful [for]."

    Sunny sees more than the opportunity to show off her talents; she also sees dollar signs in an industry that made almost $13 billion last year, and she demands hands-on control of her career.

    "I'm a businesswoman," she said. "I have an empire, and I have a massive team backing me."

    Lawyers, a publicist and image consultants are on call for Sunny, but the foundation for her team is still in the Lane apartment, where Sunny lives with her parents.

    Sunny Lane is her stage name, and her parents also go by the same last name. For the last year and a half, life in the apartment has revolved around the business of selling Sunny, whom they market as "The Girl Next Door Turned Hard Core."

    On a recent afternoon, Shelby answered the phone while Mike sat nearby in the living room. Upstairs, Sunny packed a suitcase for an evening full of appearances and outfit changes. Shelby helped, filling small plastic bags with costumes, makeup and music.

    Once Sunny has worn an outfit, Shelby puts it — unwashed, of course — back in a small plastic bags to one day auction off on their Web site. Sunny's underwear can bring in a lot of cash.

    "They'll pay $50 to $100 for panties," her mother said.

    "We're not kinky parents," Mike said.

    Married for 29 years, he and Shelby say that their own secret to staying monogamous was watching porn movies. For them, Sunny's co-stars are her "dates," and they say they'd rather her have sex on a porn set than with a "civilian" who might eventually break her heart.

    She does her thing, safely, in a good environment, and I don't worry about that. When she comes back home, I just ask her how her date was," Mike said.



    Mike and Shelby are proud of Sunny's success. Mike said that when he first saw Sunny on the Playboy channel, his reaction was, "Well, dreams do come true, I guess."

    "To me, it's all entertainment. I see it all as entertainment," said Shelby.

    Mike and Shelby say they fast-forward through the sex scenes in their daughter's movies, despite having made a cameo appearance in one of her early films. If she has a good scene, Mike relies on her fans to let him know whether it was good or bad.

    "And if it's good, that means the movie's going to be good, her scene's going to be good, and everybody's going to make a lot of money hopefully," he said.

    To keep making all that money, Sunny promotes herself relentlessly — giggling, bouncing and blowing kisses at red carpet events and private parties.

    "I'm a product," she said, "And I know that, and I'm a dang good product."

    At the adult video convention in Las Vegas in January, Sunny was there to market herself, and her parents were right there beside her. But Shelby and Mike seem to have taken their support to a whole new level. While at the conference, they looked into getting life-size, anatomically correct sex dolls molded of their daughter.

    "I do want to have a doll that looks exactly like me," said Sunny. "[My parents] support anything that I have to do with my business, and it's my decision. And if I want a doll, I want a doll."

    But what does the industry think of her parents? Mike says he and Shelby are involved in Sunny's career to look after those people who want to use her. He sees himself as the porn equivalent of Jessica and Ashlee Simpson's father, Joe.
    "Some of the industry has accepted us very, very well, and some of the industry don't understand any of it," Mike said.
     

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