Christmas sucks! (1 Viewer)

[Layce Erayce]

Thats what some people think.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/10/Hillsborough/Banner_stirs_Christma.shtml

What do people think?

:coffee:

 

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[V]

it was cool before when i would get money from every guest that came to the house, now when i'm older and i actually do need all that money, everyone brings some stupid chocolate or something like that.

yeah christmas pretty musch does suck, cause in fact it is all about the presents/money, who ever says otherwise is a liar.

 

[Martin]

Thats what some people think.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/10/Hillsborough/Banner_stirs_Christma.shtml

What do people think?

:coffee:

That movement is such bs. Instead of banning stores that use "Happy Holidays", how about banning stores altogether and remembering the time when Christmas wasn't just about gifts? The commercialization of the holiday is sickening, regardless of what you call it.

 

[Layce Erayce]

That movement is such bs. Instead of banning stores that use "Happy Holidays", how about banning stores altogether and remembering the time when Christmas wasn't just about gifts? The commercialization of the holiday is sickening, regardless of what you call it.

Perfectly true.

But Im also looking at the political aspect of it. No more Christmas, but now its "X-mas" or "Holidays". No "Christmas tree", but "Holiday tree".

I dont understand who exactly is offended by the presence of Christmas? We've been celebrating it for centuries, regardless of whether it is Christian in origin or not. Can someone truly be offended by a cultural phenomena they have experienced, or at least been highly exposed to since they were born? 96 percent of the country celebrates Christmas. By saying "Merry Christmas" are we offending anyone? I havent heard anyone who celebrates Hanukkah complain that his religion is somehow "left out".

Christmas is now a cultural thing more than a religious thing. Do they fuck with it in the name of diversity just because Christians celebrate it?

 

[Slagathor]

But Im also looking at the political aspect of it. No more Christmas, but now its "X-mas" or "Holidays". No "Christmas tree", but "Holiday tree".

Never heard of any of that

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I don't like using Christ mas because I am not religious at all.

But I think that banner is pretty funny.

 

[Martin]

I dont understand who exactly is offended by the presence of Christmas? We've been celebrating it for centuries, regardless of whether it is Christian in origin or not. Can someone truly be offended by a cultural phenomena they have experienced, or at least been highly exposed to since they were born? 96 percent of the country celebrates Christmas. By saying "Merry Christmas" are we offending anyone? I havent heard anyone who celebrates Hanukkah complain that his religion is somehow "left out".

Christmas is now a cultural thing more than a religious thing. Do they fuck with it in the name of diversity just because Christians celebrate it?

That's exactly the point, few people actually celebrate Christmas in a religious manner, you don't see a lot of mangers all over the place, it's become very commonplace and secular. And people celebrate tradition all over the place, it's not just religious holidays that are recognized, hence there's nothing very Christian about Christmas anymore.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

That's exactly the point, few people actually celebrate Christmas in a religious manner, you don't see a lot of mangers all over the place, it's become very commonplace and secular. And people celebrate tradition all over the place, it's not just religious holidays that are recognized, hence there's nothing very Christian about Christmas anymore.

Boom!

Agreed. +rep

 

[Layce Erayce]

Never heard of any of that

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002647493_ndig26.html

And that isnt the only incident. All of a sudden people dont like the word "Christmas". Por que?

 

[Daddi]

Christmas is great.

 

[3pac]

christmas is excellent, im not religious at all and im getting a car and its sound system among other things

 

[3pac]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002647493_ndig26.html

And that isnt the only incident. All of a sudden people dont like the word "Christmas". Por que?

Porque Christ daba regalos malos. Quein quiere pan cuando ellos pueden recibir un coche?


sorry that was my spanish homework for the break

 

[mikhail]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002647493_ndig26.html

And that isnt the only incident. All of a sudden people dont like the word "Christmas". Por que?

I kind of assumed that was an American thing. I've never been a fan of the abomination that is "X-mas", but it's usually used for space reasons - I've never heard someone actually say it.

This new trend towards stripping what little remains of the actual religious feast from it is a disgrace.

For a satirical view of it all, trust The Onion.

For a particular stupid story of how polarised the "debate" on this has become, here's an article about a Wall-Mart employee fired for a factual email. From the article:

We may be two peoples separated by a common language, as Shaw once suggested, but the US propensity to find teeth-grindingly literal explanations for the world around us never ceases to cause the British mirth.

 

[Zé Tahir]

Perfectly true.

But Im also looking at the political aspect of it. No more Christmas, but now its "X-mas" or "Holidays". No "Christmas tree", but "Holiday tree".

I dont understand who exactly is offended by the presence of Christmas? We've been celebrating it for centuries, regardless of whether it is Christian in origin or not. Can someone truly be offended by a cultural phenomena they have experienced, or at least been highly exposed to since they were born? 96 percent of the country celebrates Christmas. By saying "Merry Christmas" are we offending anyone? I havent heard anyone who celebrates Hanukkah complain that his religion is somehow "left out".

Christmas is now a cultural thing more than a religious thing. Do they fuck with it in the name of diversity just because Christians celebrate it?

I don't think anyone is offended. These stores do it to target everyone, not just Christians, that's why they do it. Also, Christmas happens to be around the same time as Hannakuh and Kwanza, so I guess they just use "happy holidays" to make it simpler. But lol, Holiday Tree? that's pathetic!

I agree w/Martin though, all this comercialization of holidays is taking away the meaning and importance of the holidays.

 

[Tom]

Christmas is only great when you're a kid and believe in santa etc. Now its just the worst day of the year where all the relatives you hate come over, you're nursing a bad hangover anyway and you're not allowed out the house/none of your mates are.

Positives for me are the cheesy christmas music that gets played in the clubs and the constant pissups, two weeks off work.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

good thing i dont celebrate it then

 

[Maresca]

the only thing about christmas that I don´t like is the fact that there is christmas or winter break in most of europs top football leauge

 

[Slagathor]

Christmas is only great when you're a kid and believe in santa etc. Now its just the worst day of the year where all the relatives you hate come over, you're nursing a bad hangover anyway and you're not allowed out the house/none of your mates are.

So quit living off your parents you cheap bastard

 

[Tom]

actually they're gonna charge me board from April next year (21st birthday) so will be moving out around then

 

[Martin]

actually they're gonna charge me board from April next year (21st birthday) so will be moving out around then

charge you? for living at home?