[Champions League] Nordsjælland vs JUVENTUS (23rd Oct - 2012) (15 Viewers)

mukumsplau

Senior Member
Jul 9, 2008
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that fucked up moment u dream juventus had won and wake up for rality to gradually hit you that we drew..

still..we're coming out of this group but we need need need to switch to 4-3-3...give 3-5-2 and vidal and matri a rest
 

Yamen

Senior Member
Apr 20, 2007
11,809
I really hate it when we get into this situation. All I know is that we should have spent our selves yesterday and at least get a goal in the first half for many reasons. Bag a second one later and go home with 3 points. On the other hand I can't blame our side. Hansen was just hard to break with him and the posts protecting the net.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
that fucked up moment u dream juventus had won and wake up for rality to gradually hit you that we drew..

still..we're coming out of this group but we need need need to switch to 4-3-3...give 3-5-2 and vidal and matri a rest
I think Matri is quite rested already :D
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,000
In any case, what we must do is beat the Danes AND Chelsea. The Chelsea match is the real must win. If we do that, then we should qualify.

In that case, even if Chelsea beat Shakhtar in the next round, while the Ukrainians beat the Danes in round 5, the standings will look like this before the last round:
1. Shakhtar 10
2. Juventus 9
3. Chelsea 7

Shakhtar and Juve can literally play for a draw in the last round because it will perfectly suit both teams.

The Chelsea match is gonna be our CL final. It's gonna be their CL final too, though. That match will decide everything.
 

mukumsplau

Senior Member
Jul 9, 2008
4,443
come on guys chin up

shaktar 7
chelsea 4
juve 3

we beat norj and chelsea beats shak and we're one point behind both of em again...just becomes a question of making sure to beat both of em esp chelsea at home...and we can do it in dumbass arena..wud be very fuckin hard but..with the right team and formation selection and an overdose of dragonblood we can do it!
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,000
The best scenario for us is Shakhtar not to lose in London. If they do lose then we must beat Chelsea, but if Shakhtar play a draw or even better, win, then beating Chelsea won't be a must since we will have a 2nd chance in Doniezk against an already qualified and group winning Shakhtar.

Technically, not winning yesterday was a step back, but it doesn't change things much. Our match vs Chelsea was still gonna be decisive.
Of course, no need to highlight the importance of next round's match. We could allow a draw yesterday, but we can't allow it in two weeks.
 

piotrr

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Sep 13, 2011
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let's assume everyone beats Danes, then the table will be:

Shakhtar 10 (after 4 games)
Chelsea 7 (after 4 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

The most important will be Chelsea - Shakhtar result,

case 1) Chelsea wins
Chelsea 10 (after 5 games)
Shakhtar 10 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

Like RAMI corrected : win vs Chelsea and a draw vs Shakhtar will send us through based on head to head results with Chelsea

case 2) Shakhtar wins
Shakhtar 13 (after 5 games)
Chelsea 7 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

here the minimum plan will be beating Chelsea

case 3) draw

Shakhtar 11 (after 5 games)
Chelsea 8 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

Here seems that the minimum plan is also beating Chelski, or drawing them and beating ukrainians, then we must count on better goal ratio ?
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
let's assume everyone beats Danes, then the table will be:

Shakhtar 10 (after 4 games)
Chelsea 7 (after 4 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

The most important will be Chelsea - Shakhtar result,

case 1) Chelsea wins
Chelsea 10 (after 5 games)
Shakhtar 10 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

To qualify we must win with Chelsea and Shakhtar (imo impossible)

case 2) Shakhtar wins
Shakhtar 13 (after 5 games)
Chelsea 7 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

here the minimum plan will be beating Chelsea

case 3) draw

Shakhtar 11 (after 5 games)
Chelsea 8 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

Here seems that the minimum plan is also beating Chelski, or drawing them and beating ukrainians, then we must count on better goal ratio ?
Nice work. :)

In case 1 we have to win both games.
In case 2 we need to beat Chelsea or draw Chelsea and beat Shaktar. Maybe even two draws will be enough. It all depends on the highest number of goals scored between us, Chelski and Shaktar.
In case 3 we just need to beat Chelsea to go through. Alternatively, drawing Chelsea and beating Shaktar will also get us through.

Of course we could also hope on FC Nordsjælland getting a draw against Shaktar or Chelski.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
21,473
let's assume everyone beats Danes, then the table will be:

Shakhtar 10 (after 4 games)
Chelsea 7 (after 4 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

The most important will be Chelsea - Shakhtar result,

case 1) Chelsea wins
Chelsea 10 (after 5 games)
Shakhtar 10 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

To qualify we must win with Chelsea and Shakhtar (imo impossible)

case 2) Shakhtar wins
Shakhtar 13 (after 5 games)
Chelsea 7 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

here the minimum plan will be beating Chelsea

case 3) draw

Shakhtar 11 (after 5 games)
Chelsea 8 (after 5 games)
Juve 6 (after 4 games)

Here seems that the minimum plan is also beating Chelski, or drawing them and beating ukrainians, then we must count on better goal ratio ?
No. in case 1) a win vs Chelsea and a draw vs Shakhtar will send us through based on head to head results with Chelsea :klin:
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
RAMI¹⁰;3902980 said:
No. in case 1) a win vs Chelsea and a draw vs Shakhtar will send us through based on head to head results with Chelsea :klin:
You're right! :)

Also, drawing Chelsea and beating Shaktar will be enough as well if our head-to-head against Shaktar is good enough! :)
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,455
Lol at all those scenarios... You guys should come up with the most realistic one, and that is us drawing the other 3 Games aswell
 

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