[Champions League] Nordsjælland vs JUVENTUS (23rd Oct - 2012) (38 Viewers)

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,006
What is more likely:

Juventus - Nordsjælland (JUVE WIN)
Chelsea - Shakhtar (Chelsea win) :xfinger:

Chelsea 8 pts
Juventus 6 pts
Shakhtar 5 pts

Juventus - Chelsea (JUVE Draw) :xfinger:
Nordsjælland - Shakhtar (SHAKHTAR WIN)

Chelsea 9 pts
Shakhtar 8 pts
Juventus 7 pts

Shakhtar - Juventus (draw)
Chelsea - Nordsjælland (CHELSEA WIN)

Chelsea 12 pts
Shakhtar 9 pts
Juventus 8 pts

But considering that, all we need is one more win to go through. Two wins out of the three games, will be tough, but quite doable. It wont pan out much differently if Chelsea or Shaktar draw against eachother or once against Nordsjaelland. We need two wins in most scenario's.
Shakhtar already have 7 pts. You can safely delete your post :D
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Cool quoting me whenever I make a post isn't it? -rep
Since most of your posts are against our team and it's directors, so I comment on them, the others I couldn't care less, and if you are not lying please show me at least one of your gay posts quoted by me if you can.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Since most of your posts are against our team and it's directors, so I comment on them, the others I couldn't care less, and if you are not lying please show me at least one of your gay posts quoted by me if you can.
Against directors? Yes. Against the team? No.

-rep for lying.
 

forzajuve_27

Junior Member
Apr 14, 2005
226
Having had a night to reflect about this game, my views are that we were unlucky, despite not being at our best it certainly wasn't a goal.com "most shameful night in our history". We were dominating for so long, the keeper pulled off at least 2 excellent saves, they kept getting blocks in the way, the officials were terrible and as Buffon said the only way they were going to score was from a set piece opportunity which I believe was a harsh free kick.

That said despite luck being against us we wern't good enough last night, and I feel that we made the wrong decisions in terms of personnel, and it is worrying that we keep making them. If it had been me I would have played Pogba and Caceres ahead of Vidal and Isla that's for sure. It can't be doing their morale any good after scoring the goals in our most decisive game of the season and then not even getting a minute in the Champions League.

Vidal as everyone has stated hasn't been the same since the Chelsea match and Pogba has done very well, that said I think I'm in a small minority because I don't think Vidal was that bad last night, definitely not at his best but not terrible and I think it's because he has such a high standard that him playing OK looks bad. Still would have played Pogba tho.

De Ceglie has been criticised by some but I think he had a good game last night.

Isla - Now I've read a lot of people saying that he is a very good player both on here and from journalists, but I'm not seeing it yet, granted he started the season injured but is he that good? Last night he probably should have come off as bar the cross for the goal and perhaps a couple of others, his balls into the box were lacking.

Matri as much as I don't rate him had a decent game last night but as soon as he tried that effort on the half volley I wanted him off as he should know his limits and I've stated before because of all the easy chances he's missed for us in the past I'm no longer able to give him any sympathy anymore. We looked more lively with Bendtner on the pitch and I hope he starts against Catania.

A main closing optimistic point is that I'm not sure last night actually changed too much a great deal because either way we were always going to need to beat Chelsea on Matchday 5 and that remains the case. Hopefully Shakhtar can get a win or at least a point away to Chelsea which I'm unsure about given Chelsea have been in this position before of needing to win and have delivered but we shall see as Shakhtar won't be easy. Even if they do, it can come down to Shakhtar away which many are saying will be difficult and it will be but we have the quality to win out there and by the time we play them they might be already qualified so we should have a greater chance against them despite it being tough.
 

Nedved03

Love juve because of sega
Nov 27, 2011
1,713
About CL experience player we have, is this have any impact at all on us? In our 96 juve, how many CL experienced player we have at that time?
 

Bezzy

The Bookie Queen
Jun 5, 2010
20,828
About CL experience player we have, is this have any impact at all on us? In our 96 juve, how many CL experienced player we have at that time?
and how was that a different time
you can't compare those times and now a days
and players as ravanelli etc were very expierence and way better then the crappy forwards we have now a days. exactly they show how important it is to have strikers who can score out of now where

gio and vuci are good enough but they need a big striker such as cavani, dzeko or someone next to them
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
About CL experience player we have, is this have any impact at all on us? In our 96 juve, how many CL experienced player we have at that time?
No no, not giving excuses but saying had Agnelli kept Del Piero he would have been a better option than Bendtner of course, and more useful at time than Giovinco and Matri even at this age. He's a match a decider in most of these delicate situations. Just saying :smile:
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,006
We have only two difference makers in our team. One is old (Pirlo) and the other one plays 1 great match out of 5 in average (Vucinic). And Mirko too is 29. That's worrying for our future. We do have other excellent/great players like Buffon, Marchisio or Chiellini, but they are team players, not guys who will take the ball in their feet and win you a match.

And another thing, we're very good in pressing the shit out of the opponent, but once we win the ball we don't play it very well and we certainly don't play it fast. I watched how Dortmund were doing it against City and I want us to do the same. Once we win the ball we need time to transform the possession into a quick attack. We don't pass the ball fast and our players don't open up well. It's always a pass to Pirlo who then needs to make an accurate pass to the attackers. We lose time that way and we allow the opponents to organize the defense. One excellent passer in midfield instead of one of Vidal/Marchisio and a better attacker will solve this problem.
 

Nedved03

Love juve because of sega
Nov 27, 2011
1,713
No no, not giving excuses but saying had Agnelli kept Del Piero he would have been a better option than Bendtner of course, and more useful at time than Giovinco and Matri even at this age. He's a match a decider in most of these delicate situations. Just saying :smile:
Yeah, during difficult time like this we need a player like il capitano. :sad::cry:
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
We have only two difference makers in our team. One is old (Pirlo) and the other one plays 1 great match out of 5 in average (Vucinic). And Mirko too is 29. That's worrying for our future. We do have other excellent/great players like Buffon, Marchisio or Chiellini, but they are team players, not guys who will take the ball in their feet and win you a match.
Even when Vucinic plays bad you can still expect him to pull something but the rest of the strikers and specially Seba at this age he has to do more.

Sometimes and I'm serious I feel that Giovinco without speed would starve.
 

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