[Champions League] JUVENTUS 1-1 Shakhtar Donetsk (Oct. 2nd 2012) (82 Viewers)

JUVE 1-1 Shakhtar Man of the Match

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Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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The team still has a lot to learn, true.

What I don't understand is why the hell did we change our attacking tactics. We don't attack in numbers anymore like last season. We just pass it to our forwards and if the same forward manages to control it (a big IF), we pass it to either Vidal, Marchisio or Licht. This is done to open up spaces, but bar Vucinic, none of our strikers can properly or are strong enough to hold the ball.
Why do we never switch to the 4-3-3 during games?
 

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Oct 23, 2011
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There is no need to blame any individual nor the formation. We played great games in the 352 system, and also very bad ones. Same counts for the 433. I have faith in Conte that he knows what formation is best for this team, whether that would be the 352 or 433. We still have everything in our own hands, so at this points there is no need to start panicking (yet). I don't see us losing against Chelsea nor Shaktar away, however the two games against Nordsjaelland are must wins now.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Its time to go back to the 433.

Our 352 just isn't lethal enough in attack. We have a CDM playign LWB and a RB playing RWB when we have a natual winger RWB on the bench.

Makes no sense.

If we insist on keeping Licht then play a 433 and start: Giovinco-Matri-Isla in attack.

Fuck the 352
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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Our team is tired. It's as simple as that. Why did pirlo have to play the full 90 minutes against roma? He should have been off at half considering it was already 3-0, and that we had an important CL game mid-week. Pirlo and vidal need to be rested against siena. Marrone and lucio should also play in the defense. I know that's alot of changes to a line-up but it's what needs to be done.
Some of the other guys we have replacements for but if we have a tired pirlo then we just dont. Pogba is no pirlo and neither is anyone else. This man along with about 4-5 others should be considered key and rested the game before the CL but your right with Roma, there was no excuses with having been up 3-0.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Our team is tired? It's fucking early October and they're professional footballers, how the fuck can they be tired?
Well for example a lot of our players went straight from a season playing pretty much every week, to the Euros, then straight into a season with many games bunched together around internationals. So it's not a push to talk about tiredness, but that should be managed better.
 

Luca

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Apr 22, 2007
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:lol2:

Exactly, they are assuming we will easily win over the Danes.
The thing is Juventus will do the same, we'll struggle like we did against Haiffa in 09. We were lucky to win those since we showed blatant disregard for our opponents. It could even end like it did against BATE in 08. It's something history proves we do. Then we will have too much left to do against Shaktar.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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We changed our attacking style yet we keep Bendtner on the bench and play Quag-Gio which makes absolutely no sense at all.
Exactly. We need a target man upfront if we were to remain using such tactics. It's not even funny watching Gio trying to muscle defenders.

Why do we never switch to the 4-3-3 during games?
Conte got work to do.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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The thing is Juventus will do the same, we'll struggle like we did against Haiffa in 09. We were lucky to win those since we showed blatant disregard for our opponents. It could even end like it did against BATE in 08.
We continue to underestimate teams. We seem to be going back to conceding first and having to play catchup.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Its time to go back to the 433.

Our 352 just isn't lethal enough in attack. We have a CDM playign LWB and a RB playing RWB when we have a natual winger RWB on the bench.

Makes no sense.

If we insist on keeping Licht then play a 433 and start: Giovinco-Matri-Isla in attack.

Fuck the 352
Giovinco is struggling and is way too selfish for the amount he is struggling st this point. He doesn't deserve to start right now anyway.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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The thing is Juventus will do the same, we'll struggle like we did against Haiffa in 09. We were lucky to win those since we showed blatant disregard for our opponents. It could even end like it did against BATE in 08.
The team also thought we will win easily tonight. As I said we are not ready for this tournament as we are not giving the matches a proper importance. It's the second time in a row and the trickiest is against the Danes.
 

piotrr

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Sep 13, 2011
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There is snow in turin during the winter, just saying, it gets pretty cold here.

If their best players were russian, then i'd worry
Yes, there is snow, but there is no comparision between weather in Italy and in Ukraine in December. Just remember how it looked like when we played Lech Poznan. And then check how far Doneck is.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Giovinco is struggling and is way too selfish for the amount he is struggling st this point. He doesn't deserve to start right now anyway.
Then play to his strengths for fucks sake man. The guy is better than Quags, and you know it.
 

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