Champions League 2019/20 (52 Viewers)
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Klopp became Liverpool manager in November 2015. He inherited a team significantly worse than Juventus was at the time. He spent less money than Juve did from 2015-2019, and yet he’s gone on to win the UCL while playing an good brand of football.
It must blow the mind of certain members here. I thought it wasn’t possible to win the UCL unless you have the most resources and play defensively.
It must blow the mind of certain members here. I thought it wasn’t possible to win the UCL unless you have the most resources and play defensively.
Thats also on the players, not Max. You cant hold the ball on the oppositions half against a hard pressing team like them, with Matuidi, Pjanic, Can, Berna/Benta and no wingers. Especially when you need to chase the result. It worked vs Atleti because they sit back no matter what, and we had the GOAT converting the few chances we had. Our teams midfield and wide areas were simply not built for matching Ajax at their craft. All our mids in that game sit back and press ocasionally, none of them attacks the box with or without the ball. Thazs wjy we were fortunate enough to score 1st both games, but blew leads thanks to being forced to play not up to it reserves in MDS and Rugani
Do you believe in parallel universes? Sounds like you do. 
Anyways, I disagree that we showed up for Ajax games, we didnt play near to our potential there.
Anyways, I disagree that we showed up for Ajax games, we didnt play near to our potential there.
We all create our own realities, but what I would suggest is for you to try and detach yourself from that reality and to see how other people view you. It's not always a pretty picture and perhaps there could be a reason for that.
There hasn't been anything dishonest in my claims about your behavior towards Allegri. Those claims are quite broadly accepted on this forum, they are not my inventions. I again don't see much else in your post than a constant need to deflect. I guess that is the nature of you.
There hasn't been anything dishonest in my claims about your behavior towards Allegri. Those claims are quite broadly accepted on this forum, they are not my inventions. I again don't see much else in your post than a constant need to deflect. I guess that is the nature of you.
Lol. You would have cried like a bitch, as always, if we won a CL final against Spurs with the tactics Klopp ripped off Allegri. Dude gave them ~65% possession and the majority of half chances, but set up a solid defensive line and countered, just like with our matches when we knocked them out. And same as us Pool also had the best few chances and were clinical with them.
If only we had faced Spurs in one of our CL finals lol.
Anyways, I like both Klopp and Allegri. Both immensely successful coaches who have shown lots of adaptability. Unlike the chainsmoking clown.
If only we had faced Spurs in one of our CL finals lol.
Anyways, I like both Klopp and Allegri. Both immensely successful coaches who have shown lots of adaptability. Unlike the chainsmoking clown.
These players look world class because of Klopp, a lot of them aren’t actually anything special, especially the midfielders.
I remember the days when Kagawa, Gotze, Perisic, Kuba, and Großkreutz were supposedly top class players.
Remember when Coutinho was considered world class?
What is the common denominator between all these players? Klopp.
I remember the days when Kagawa, Gotze, Perisic, Kuba, and Großkreutz were supposedly top class players.
Remember when Coutinho was considered world class?
What is the common denominator between all these players? Klopp.
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Players will look good in a system that suits them. Attacking players will always look good under Klopp or even just at Dortmund, because that's what they play - fast, back-to-front football built on skill and speed.
Teams who dominate midfield possession with technique, with tiki-taka and all it's derivatives, such as Barcelona, Man City, Sarri's Napoli, the best players in those teams are the midfielders or the attacker who links to midfield.
Teams who set up to play defensively strong, the defenders and DM players stand out. We managed to convince people that Bonucci was a world class defender playing under Conte and Allegri.
You can't get a zebra to win the Grand National.
BTW, when did anyone ever think Großkreutz was top class? Even his mother didn't think that.
But sure, some coaches definitely get more out of players, they get them to buy into the methodology, and Klopp is definitely one of the better ones at that. He's a coach players want to play for because his football is fun. Conte is similar in a way but seems to work better getting more limited players to play to a higher level, or at least for a season or two.
Teams who dominate midfield possession with technique, with tiki-taka and all it's derivatives, such as Barcelona, Man City, Sarri's Napoli, the best players in those teams are the midfielders or the attacker who links to midfield.
Teams who set up to play defensively strong, the defenders and DM players stand out. We managed to convince people that Bonucci was a world class defender playing under Conte and Allegri.
You can't get a zebra to win the Grand National.
BTW, when did anyone ever think Großkreutz was top class? Even his mother didn't think that.
But sure, some coaches definitely get more out of players, they get them to buy into the methodology, and Klopp is definitely one of the better ones at that. He's a coach players want to play for because his football is fun. Conte is similar in a way but seems to work better getting more limited players to play to a higher level, or at least for a season or two.
And Daniele Rugani and Mattia De Sciglio were in ours. It goes both ways. They sold a CM and CB for 150M+, they obviously had quality
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Midfield is their weakest area, but they are all the type that fit their style and isnt key for the kind of football they run.
Kagawa went to ManU and failed like many others, ADM, Falcao, PP, Matic.... they were all much better in previous clubs. Kuba and Grosskreutz were never considered top class, Kuba was a quality winger for years in Germany its just that people noticed him more when Dortmund were good. Grosskreutz was nothing more than a workhorse. Gotze was a top talent, he got himself ruined by injuries and Pep using him all over the place from CM to CF. Young players like him need consistency and Pep never gave him that. There is a difference in a team like Dortmund having run the game through you and playing the versatile depth guy role in a Bayern. He should have went to a team that lacked playmaking in the final 3rd like us, not one that had abundance of it and then struggled to fit more in. Same applies to Coutinho, barca will never play through him when they have messi, but he showed his worth at the WC
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Midfield is their weakest area, but they are all the type that fit their style and isnt key for the kind of football they run.
Kagawa went to ManU and failed like many others, ADM, Falcao, PP, Matic.... they were all much better in previous clubs. Kuba and Grosskreutz were never considered top class, Kuba was a quality winger for years in Germany its just that people noticed him more when Dortmund were good. Grosskreutz was nothing more than a workhorse. Gotze was a top talent, he got himself ruined by injuries and Pep using him all over the place from CM to CF. Young players like him need consistency and Pep never gave him that. There is a difference in a team like Dortmund having run the game through you and playing the versatile depth guy role in a Bayern. He should have went to a team that lacked playmaking in the final 3rd like us, not one that had abundance of it and then struggled to fit more in. Same applies to Coutinho, barca will never play through him when they have messi, but he showed his worth at the WC
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