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Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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Yeah he did have amazing saves. But buffon made a miracle save when 1-0 which obviously would have changed everything about the game and tie. Buffon should have been picked imo. But it really doesn't matter in the end.

And yes, Neuer is overrated, he's talked as if he's some sort of legendary keeper already. He's nowhere near the last great german GK Kahn or Kopke. And he looks like a picturesque nazi :D
I think he's better than the two you mentioned.
 

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Fr3sh

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Boateng injured now, damnit
Now I really want Bayern to advance :(

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Khan was not that good imo. Neuer is 2nd best after Buffon right now.
Neuer not that good?!? Just watch that Itsly-Germany 2006 game and tell me if you were to swap Khan off Neuer that they would have done better.
IMO if Neuer was there instead of Khan the game would've ended in the allocated 90minutes
 

lgorTudor

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Neuer not that good?!? Just watch that Itsly-Germany 2006 game and tell me if you were to swap Khan off Neuer that they would have done better.
IMO if Neuer was there instead of Khan the game would've ended in the allocated 90minutes
Lehmann played that game, not Khan. I see you have already enjoyed your morning spliff
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Neuer not that good?!? Just watch that Itsly-Germany 2006 game and tell me if you were to swap Khan off Neuer that they would have done better.
IMO if Neuer was there instead of Khan the game would've ended in the allocated 90minutes
You mean Neuer would have scored?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Never really understood why Lehmann played instead of Kahn in his last years on the NT. Thats not a way to treat a legend who still was the better GK.
Dude, they're Germans. It's not about the better keeper or about the better player. It's about the biggest cunt. And Lehmann was a cunt the size of Australia. Remember how he kicked Gilardino for celebrating after Del Piero's goal? That's the cunt of a man Lehmann was. No one will ever be as much of a cunt as him.
 

Stephan

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Kahn was very good in his prime, but by the time of 2006 world cup he was getting older and decline was in his game. I remember there was a CL game around that time, i think against Mourinho Chelsea, they lost, Kahn was criticized for going down slow and bad reactions. Meanwhile Lehmann went all the way to final with Arsenal, making some 0 goals conceded record at the time in the competition. So that made Klinsmann make the decision to start with Lehmann in 2006 world cup. He was their hero against Argentina in pen shootout.

But between 98-02 Kahn was up there in the very best list. I do think decline was on from 04. Germany didnt even qualify from euro 2004 group to knockouts, while in 2002 World cup, Kahn was instrumental helping to guide that quite average German side apart from Klose to final, which unfortunately will be remembered for his blunder save.
 

zizinho

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Kahn was very good in his prime, but by the time of 2006 world cup he was getting older and decline was in his game. I remember there was a CL game around that time, i think against Mourinho Chelsea, they lost, Kahn was criticized for going down slow and bad reactions. Meanwhile Lehmann went all the way to final with Arsenal, making some 0 goals conceded record at the time in the competition. So that made Klinsmann make the decision to start with Lehmann in 2006 world cup. He was their hero against Argentina in pen shootout.

But between 98-02 Kahn was up there in the very best list. I do think decline was on from 04. Germany didnt even qualify from euro 2004 group to knockouts, while in 2002 World cup, Kahn was instrumental helping to guide that quite average German side apart from Klose to final, which unfortunately will be remembered for his blunder save.
Kahn single handedly dragged them to the final in 2002, he was that good. then in 2004 they were placed in a group with Czech Republic and Netherlands, and only were eliminated because they couldnt score a goal vs Latvia (yes, they were that shit). Neuer was never on that level, which is why i found it ridiculous that he was pushed with both hands into the balon dors top 3 in 2014

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Now I really want Bayern to advance :(

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Neuer not that good?!? Just watch that Itsly-Germany 2006 game and tell me if you were to swap Khan off Neuer that they would have done better.
IMO if Neuer was there instead of Khan the game would've ended in the allocated 90minutes
if you want to see a top GK, watch the WC in 2002. thats when Kahn was beasting :D
 

Stephan

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Germany lead against both Netherlands and Czechs. Ended up not winning either. Rewatch the game highlights. Against Czech imo Kahn could have done better with the goals. Against Netherlands, fair enough, RVN poacher goal.
But some other top keeper would have made a reaction save.

I dont think tough groups is excuse. Euros always had tough groups till they expanded it. Italy and Spain went also home.
 
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