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Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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Why do we fear Bayern more than Real again?
Just because we've eliminated Real in the past doesn't mean we will again.
Bayern squad is too old, Real's are super athletic, and super offensive, with subs capable of producing, can get a goal literally out of nothing, not to mention their incredible luck in CL, especially finals, plus the Sergio Ramos factor.
 

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pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Why do we fear Bayern more than Real again?
Just because we've eliminated Real in the past doesn't mean we will again.
Bayern squad is too old, Real's are super athletic, and super offensive, with subs capable of producing, can get a goal literally out of nothing, not to mention their incredible luck in CL, especially finals, plus the Sergio Ramos factor.
we got enough bigs to put Ramos in his place and Real got a trauma against us
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Atlético higher percentage to reach the semis than Real Madrid? Um, no.

I did mention that the ESPN guys all had us to knock out Barcelona when the draw was made, despite the bookies not making us favourites.
Your mate Phil Neville predicted us to win the CL at the beginning of this season. Reiterated his prediction again last night on 5Live.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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With our fantastic history of winning cup finals I think I would rather we got Real in the semis and, if we can win, whoever is left in the final.

I mean if I had to watch a 5th lost CL final in row I would lose my mind.
With our history we will lose the final to Monaco/Leicester.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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Why do we fear Bayern more than Real again?
Just because we've eliminated Real in the past doesn't mean we will again.
Bayern squad is too old, Real's are super athletic, and super offensive, with subs capable of producing, can get a goal literally out of nothing, not to mention their incredible luck in CL, especially finals, plus the Sergio Ramos factor.
Im not sure i agree with this statement. Real can be defensive. In la liga Zidane has had some defensive games. Napoli also took the lead in both legs. Bayern looked the better team first half and could have gone to HT 2:0 if Vidal hadnt bottled it. Then Martinez who played defense got sent off. Changed the game. Im surprised Ancelotti didnt make better defensive tactical switch. I mean he could have played Vidal as a makeshift defender or smth. It was 1-1 at the time and would have been ok result. I could see Bayern get a 2-2 draw in Madrid. Now its very difficult. Lewandowski and Hummels were missed yesterday and both could have made a big difference tbh, Hummels defensively and Lewa offensively. Müller doesnt convince as a out and out CF these days, since euro 2016 really.

Actually what Martinez did was kind of dumb. The 2nd yellow was earned in the middle of the pitch challenging CRonaldo. It wasnt in a goalscoring situation which called for a desperate last minute challenge. Let his team down there.

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We lost many finals, that's true, but the crazy thing, we lost never at the semis, right?
We lost to Manchester United 1999 semi-final at home 2:3 after being 2:0 up by 15 min. United went on to final and rest is history.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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When Morata left he set a new standard on how you should behave after you leave Juventus, very classy guy. When Vidal left and said that he's finally at a big club I felt like puking. If Morata came back I'd celebrate for two weeks straight, if Vidal came back I'd expect a real apology first.
Morata what a guy, what a heart. Gratitude at it's best.

At this point I don't really care no more about Vidal or Pogba, I have to admit though I never liked their statements/press conference when they left. Thanking Juve is one thing, stating Manchester United and Bayern are step over Juve is another thing.
 

Amer

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Feb 13, 2005
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I wasn't worried before the Farca game, and I'm certainly not worried now.

We have experience, balance, great coach, grinta, we are focused, motivated...

We aren't inferior to any other club.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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We cant sit back for sure. My worry is early Neymar dive pen and then who knows maybe even someone gets sent off in the process. Then you naturally start defending that 2 goal lead in the moment.

Right now they went back to Spain with their heads down and local media lambasting them. Come next week after league weekend, i expect a lot of "we can do it, remember, we came back from 4. Its only 3 now bs media and players talk".

I personally think there were some very questionable calls in that second leg with PSG. One of the goals should not have stood for sure. Pen was also questionable.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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That penalty was no where questionable, that should have been clear yellow for Suarez for diving.

One of the worst CL calls in such a big match.

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The defender ran straight into the back of him.

It was a clear penalty. It was so clumsy from marquinhos and not necessary
Clear penalty? Not even Suarez noticed he was ran behind which was normal because there was no intention of fouling him and both were running towards the ball and it was far away from any danger and when Suarez fell down he grabbed his neck :lol: :lol: because he didn't know what else to do and the ref fell for the fact he held his neck falling down and now because he was ran straight into the back of him. Plus the contact wasn't even worth looking at.

Why are you defending that call?
 

Vialli_92

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Mar 7, 2013
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That penalty was no where questionable, that should have been clear yellow for Suarez for diving.

One of the worst CL calls in such a big match.

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Clear penalty? Not even Suarez noticed he was ran behind which was normal because there was no intention of fouling him and both were running towards the ball and it was far away from any danger and when Suarez fell down he grabbed his neck :lol: :lol: because he didn't know what else to do and the ref fell for the fact he held his neck falling down and now because he was ran straight into the back of him. Plus the contact wasn't even worth looking at.

Why are you defending that call?
Just because he dived doesn't mean it wasn't a foul.

If he doesn't go down the ref won't award the penalty.

If you run into the back of somebody it's obstruction and a foul.

If he stays on his feet and tries to shoot he's already off balance for his shot.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Me too honestly but that said we should just play our game in Camp Nou and mentally/physiologically forget about 1st leg, go there for a win.
We've won 3-0 at home. We just need to get some goals and make it impossible for Barca. Basically do the opposite what PSG did. Emery, what a fool.

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Just because he dived doesn't mean it wasn't a foul.

If he doesn't go down the ref won't award the penalty.

If you run into the back of somebody it's obstruction and a foul.

If he stays on his feet and tries to shoot he's already off balance for his shot.

You're going to want to stop. Trust me.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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Busquets will improve their midfield. Which could bring a new challenge for our midfield. Mascherano will move to defense then who is better defender than their natural defenders anyway lolz. (He didnt play a minute in that 4:0 trashing, played 90 in 6-1). And he played midfield Tuesday.
 

Vialli_92

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Mar 7, 2013
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Busquets will improve their midfield. Which could bring a new challenge for our midfield. Mascherano will move to defense then who is better defender than their natural defenders anyway lolz. (He didnt play a minute in that 4:0 trashing, played 90 in 6-1). And he played midfield Tuesday.
Have to watch out for his dives like in 2010 when he fucked inter
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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When Morata left he set a new standard on how you should behave after you leave Juventus, very classy guy. When Vidal left and said that he's finally at a big club I felt like puking. If Morata came back I'd celebrate for two weeks straight, if Vidal came back I'd expect a real apology first.
Yeah definatly.

he'd fit in nicely aswell tbh. He can play 3 out of 4 of our offensive positions.
 
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