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Boksic

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Palestinian flags are waved every week at Celtic Park. Every single week. With regard to the bold part - do you think the Green Brigade just wanted to create a lot of fuss and get their club fined? Why on earth would they do that?
Do they wave the Palestine flags in such numbers every single week?

I think you are giving the Green Brigade far too much credit, this is a group that in numerous occasions cannot even get the spelling right in their own banners. They have been punished 8 times in 5 years for fan incidents in Europe alone. Not to mention in Scotland. They do not seem to care about the club getting fined or the fact that their own team contains an Israeli player. Now they apparently fully understand the complex nature of the situation in Israel.

As said before, why bring politics into football? Football is a game and should be enjoyed partly as a way to escape things that go on day to day.

I can tell you are a passionate Celtic fan, but I would ask you to think of your reaction if it was Rangers. I would say the action is no different to a team in Europe playing Celtic and suddenly all holding up Ulster flags, except far more personal/raw/political. I personally think it is needless, especially when people are being killed on both sides.
 

Roverbhoy

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Jul 31, 2002
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Do they wave the Palestine flags in such numbers every single week?.
...perhaps not in the same numbers as Wednesday, but they do wave this flag every week...

I think you are giving the Green Brigade far too much credit, this is a group that in numerous occasions cannot even get the spelling right in their own banners. They have been punished 8 times in 5 years for fan incidents in Europe alone. Not to mention in Scotland. They do not seem to care about the club getting fined or the fact that their own team contains an Israeli player. Now they apparently fully understand the complex nature of the situation in Israel..
It was expressly and exclusively members of the Green Brigade that carried out the incidents that have resulted in Celtic being fined by uefa?...that's a new one on me...the punishment dished out by uefa btw being primarily for a string of minor infractions such as letting off flares, fireworks, banners, chanting, some crowd disturbances when confronted by other fans ultras...hardly enemy of the states stuff...total about £180k...and any fans caught being bad bhoys are banned for life...also, the Green Brigade have today stated that they will pay any fine Celtic gets from uefa as a result of flying any illicit banners - hardly not caring about the club and its finances (and Police Scotland have confirmed that no crime under Scottish Criminal Law was broken by the Green brigade flying these flags)...and who, anywhere, actually understands the situation in that part of the world fully?...do you need a PHD in world affairs before you are qualified to form an opinion on this or any other complex situation...maybe that's why we're sitting by as a nation and watching what's happening in Syria without being more proactive...(sorry, I withdraw that opinion as I'm not in possession of all of the facts relating to that particular situation)

I can tell you are a passionate Celtic fan, but I would ask you to think of your reaction if it was Rangers. I would say the action is no different to a team in Europe playing Celtic and suddenly all holding up Ulster flags, except far more personal/raw/political. I personally think it is needless, especially when people are being killed on both sides.
...never been to a Celtic game in the Netherlands then?...NI flags, Rangers 'taps', the Billy Boys being chanted (even Celtic songs reworded by the Dutch tp parody the Celitc fans versions - pretty impressive stuff when you think about it)...them Dutch know their football and know what gets the opposition fans going...and Rangers fans not taking a political view...really?...I'm pretty sure I could do a google search and find an Israeli flag being held up by Rangers fans...more so at away games though...and it's because people are being killed on both sides,(but one side more than the other) that they are making this statement...ps...did you find my spelling mistakes?
 

PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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...perhaps not in the same numbers as Wednesday, but they do wave this flag every week...

also, the Green Brigade have today stated that they will pay any fine Celtic gets from uefa as a result of flying any illicit banners - hardly not caring about the club and its finances (and Police Scotland have confirmed that no crime under Scottish Criminal Law was broken by the Green brigade flying these flags).


Rangers fans not taking a political view...really?...I'm pretty sure I could do a google search and find an Israeli flag being held up by Rangers fans...more so at away games though...
Solid :tup

By the way what's the reason behind rangers putting up Israeli flags? Is it just to be the opposite to Celtic
 

Karim30

Allegri is back, life is back.
May 6, 2012
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...perhaps not in the same numbers as Wednesday, but they do wave this flag every week...



It was expressly and exclusively members of the Green Brigade that carried out the incidents that have resulted in Celtic being fined by uefa?...that's a new one on me...the punishment dished out by uefa btw being primarily for a string of minor infractions such as letting off flares, fireworks, banners, chanting, some crowd disturbances when confronted by other fans ultras...hardly enemy of the states stuff...total about £180k...and any fans caught being bad bhoys are banned for life...also, the Green Brigade have today stated that they will pay any fine Celtic gets from uefa as a result of flying any illicit banners - hardly not caring about the club and its finances (and Police Scotland have confirmed that no crime under Scottish Criminal Law was broken by the Green brigade flying these flags)...and who, anywhere, actually understands the situation in that part of the world fully?...do you need a PHD in world affairs before you are qualified to form an opinion on this or any other complex situation...maybe that's why we're sitting by as a nation and watching what's happening in Syria without being more proactive...(sorry, I withdraw that opinion as I'm not in possession of all of the facts relating to that particular situation)



...never been to a Celtic game in the Netherlands then?...NI flags, Rangers 'taps', the Billy Boys being chanted (even Celtic songs reworded by the Dutch tp parody the Celitc fans versions - pretty impressive stuff when you think about it)...them Dutch know their football and know what gets the opposition fans going...and Rangers fans not taking a political view...really?...I'm pretty sure I could do a google search and find an Israeli flag being held up by Rangers fans...more so at away games though...and it's because people are being killed on both sides,(but one side more than the other) that they are making this statement...ps...did you find my spelling mistakes?
God bless your common sense
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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i kinda love Celtic now

and $#@! UEFA, fining clubs for something like that :sergio:
I do not agree
I dont think politics has anything to do with football...

I`m obviously biased as I live in Israel but I would say that even if this was an Iranian team or a Israeli hater team playing instead of Hapoel Beer Sheva (Yeah I know Iran is not in Europe...)

If you remove all the hate and think reasonably with a non biased way you`ll agree!

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Solid :tup

By the way what's the reason behind rangers putting up Israeli flags? Is it just to be the opposite to Celtic
Probably this whole thing is ridiculous
Ajax claimed to be an Israel supporting team which is why probably 99% of the Israelis are rooting for Ajax in the Netherlands... What does Feynoord do in response?! Singing Anti-Semic songs and banners - Honestly there isnt a place for his in football!

If a team like Ajax play Hapoel Beer Sheva and gets an Israeli flag its ok as its not provoking as they both are "on the same side" but if Ajax were to play a Lebanese side and put some Israeli flags I would say this is very provoking!
Its definitely the case when its happening to other delicate situations like with Celtic and Hapoel Beer Sheva game

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Its funny as I went in this thread in order to write something and this whole nonsense took it off my mind!
Im very excited by Higuain and I feel as we will be reaching the final this year! Juve-Bayern CL Final 2017 mark my words!
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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I do not agree
I dont think politics has anything to do with football...

I`m obviously biased as I live in Israel but I would say that even if this was an Iranian team or a Israeli hater team playing instead of Hapoel Beer Sheva (Yeah I know Iran is not in Europe...)
Neither is Israel
 

Maddy

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Jul 10, 2009
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I do not agree
I dont think politics has anything to do with football...

I`m obviously biased as I live in Israel but I would say that even if this was an Iranian team or a Israeli hater team playing instead of Hapoel Beer Sheva (Yeah I know Iran is not in Europe...)

If you remove all the hate and think reasonably with a non biased way you`ll agree!

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Probably this whole thing is ridiculous
Ajax claimed to be an Israel supporting team which is why probably 99% of the Israelis are rooting for Ajax in the Netherlands... What does Feynoord do in response?! Singing Anti-Semic songs and banners - Honestly there isnt a place for his in football!

If a team like Ajax play Hapoel Beer Sheva and gets an Israeli flag its ok as its not provoking as they both are "on the same side" but if Ajax were to play a Lebanese side and put some Israeli flags I would say this is very provoking!
Its definitely the case when its happening to other delicate situations like with Celtic and Hapoel Beer Sheva game

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Its funny as I went in this thread in order to write something and this whole nonsense took it off my mind!
Im very excited by Higuain and I feel as we will be reaching the final this year! Juve-Bayern CL Final 2017 mark my words!
Bunch of nonsense this.

Permitting Israeli teams to play in an UEFA competition is a political stance and taking part in the conflict.

The hypocrisy of UEFA is disgusting.

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Geographically not football wise is a different story..
No. Just no. Don't even go there. Just don't. Like really. JUST DON'T!

Israel has nothing to do with Europe. In any way what so ever.
 
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Israel need to shut up, they participate in Europa League, CL even in the Eurovision songfestival (don't care about it btw). But the problem is why is Israel in European competitions? They have nothing to do with Europa ... I don't hate Israeli's but it's just strange that the want to be a part of Europe.
 

napoleonic

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Sep 7, 2010
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Israel need to shut up, they participate in Europa League, CL even in the Eurovision songfestival (don't care about it btw). But the problem is why is Israel in European competitions? They have nothing to do with Europa ... I don't hate Israeli's but it's just strange that the want to be a part of Europe.
:rofl: is that a serious question? really? the answer was blatantly obvious, the arabs and other muslim majority asian countries hate israel country, they out voted the neutrals on AFC.
 
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:rofl: is that a serious question? really? the answer was blatantly obvious, the arabs and other muslim majority asian countries hate israel country, they out voted the neutrals on AFC.
Yeah I know that the hate Israel, but why are they in Europese competitions? If whole Europe hate the Netherlands and will not participate in European tournaments, will The Netherlands than participate by the North-American tournaments? No, because they aren't north American. I've no problem with them in UCL or EL but I understand if people are against them. Jewish people have also not a really good name here in NL, I don't know how it is in the rest of Europe.
 

napoleonic

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Sep 7, 2010
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Yeah I know that the hate Israel, but why are they in Europese competitions? If whole Europe hate the Netherlands and will not participate in European tournaments, will The Netherlands than participate by the North-American tournaments? No, because they aren't north American. I've no problem with them in UCL or EL but I understand if people are against them. Jewish people have also not a really good name here in NL, I don't know how it is in the rest of Europe.
Is that a reason for them to play in Europe?
So are you saying they have no rights to enjoy international football just because of non football related matters?

Just admit it already, you guys are racists, because it doesn't matter if they joined uefa, conmebol, concafcaf or whatever, all are the same..
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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So are you saying they have no rights to enjoy international football just because of non football related matters?

Just admit it already, you guys are racists, because it doesn't matter if they joined uefa, conmebol, concafcaf or whatever, all are the same..
Football is not a human right. Them being accepted into UEFA is a political stance on its own. Then UEFA starts fining fan groups who are in opposition to thi.
 
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