Cassano or Jovetic? (17 Viewers)
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But you don't know unless you try.
And this is one of the things that perturbs me about Juve's recent policies, going back to early this century.
They simply just don't have the balls to take chances on youth, whether it is through their own system, or investing heavily in very young players from overseas or within the continent.
This is what the foundation of the Juve machine was built upon. It was built upon the purchasing and nurturing of young players, from Del Piero, to Vieri, to Inzaghi, to Tacchinardi, to Zidane, right up until Buffon in 2001 when he was only 23 years old, a relative baby when you are talking about keepers.
This juve over the last decade has become quite gun shy. I didn't like it 5 years ago when I was one of the lone voices here screaming bloody murder to stop wasting money on the Viera's and Emerson's of the world and take that money and do some serious scouting, and I certainly do not like it now.
And wheer is Ekdal? On Loan. Cacers is on loan from Barca and he is 22, not 19.and I don't even know where the other kid is.
The point is though, is that Juve in the past bought young players at a young age, and they played right away, not sent on loan for 3 years. Can you imagine if that happened with Del Piero or Tacchinardi??
Oh of course I do. I've always felt that youth is what wins in football, especially since the game is being played at a mcuh faster pace these days.
I've been screaming about this for YEARS. Any time they've been interested in a player the first thing I look at is their age.
Whether that is right or wrong, I don't know. But some of the fees that they paid for Vieira and Emerson could have been spent onplayers 9 years their junior.
I had a stance here 4-5 years ago when emerson and Vieira were pruchased, and I was in the minority for it, but I had stated taht I would be happy with a team that is comprised mostly of young, undeveloped talent and be a mid-table club for a couple of years if the payoff was going to be a decade of dominance in the long run.
I got lambasted for it. I believed it then, and I believe it even more now
I've been screaming about this for YEARS. Any time they've been interested in a player the first thing I look at is their age.
Whether that is right or wrong, I don't know. But some of the fees that they paid for Vieira and Emerson could have been spent onplayers 9 years their junior.
I had a stance here 4-5 years ago when emerson and Vieira were pruchased, and I was in the minority for it, but I had stated taht I would be happy with a team that is comprised mostly of young, undeveloped talent and be a mid-table club for a couple of years if the payoff was going to be a decade of dominance in the long run.
I got lambasted for it. I believed it then, and I believe it even more now
But what has that youth squad, the ones who are constantly winning the primavera cups, producing??
Take a look at what Roma have produced. De Rossi, Aquilani (who when he is healthy is damn good), among others.
Inter with Balotelli. Hell even Milan with Pato. Yeah, I know, he wasn't part of their youth system, but they bought him when he was 18 years old, and he has had an immedaite impact on that team ever since.
that is my point Greg. Not only is the youth system NOT producing the mainstays anymore,but they are not even doing a decent enough job of scouting players under the age of 19 to bring into the team.
THAT is what has pissed me off, and has continued to do so. maybe I have too much of an "American sporting frame of mind", where professional orginizations for the most part bring up their young players to let them develop.
But too much money has been wasted over the last decade on players who are on the back nine of their playing careers or pretty damn close to it.
Hell, the last star that Juventus had that was young and brought over was run out of town. And you know who I'm talking about
Take a look at what Roma have produced. De Rossi, Aquilani (who when he is healthy is damn good), among others.
Inter with Balotelli. Hell even Milan with Pato. Yeah, I know, he wasn't part of their youth system, but they bought him when he was 18 years old, and he has had an immedaite impact on that team ever since.
that is my point Greg. Not only is the youth system NOT producing the mainstays anymore,but they are not even doing a decent enough job of scouting players under the age of 19 to bring into the team.
THAT is what has pissed me off, and has continued to do so. maybe I have too much of an "American sporting frame of mind", where professional orginizations for the most part bring up their young players to let them develop.
But too much money has been wasted over the last decade on players who are on the back nine of their playing careers or pretty damn close to it.
Hell, the last star that Juventus had that was young and brought over was run out of town. And you know who I'm talking about
Yes, absolutely.
And teams such as Atletico Madrid and Fiorentina signed them, respectively, and now both squads can look forward to either another 10 years of sheer brilliance from those two, or sell them off for at least 3 times the fees that they paid for him.
To teams like Juventus no less, who once upon a time had a keen sense for discovering players of this magnitude.
See, this is just it.
The Juventus from a decade and a half ago were the perfect storm for Italian Football. Not only did they have established superstars such as Baggio, Ravenelli, Vialli, et al, but they had youngsters such as Del Piero and Zidane coming in.
If I'm coming off as sounding nostalgic, then I apologize.
But I have not been a fan of their transfer hsitory the last 7 years with some notable exceptions such as Ibrahimovic. They were starting to become like Inter, only with much less revenue in which to do it.
