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Add Mexes, Taiwo and Emanuelson 
same for emanuelson althrough there are no transfer talks about him
And tevez is not what juve needs right now he has been out of training from some months and he doesn't have a juve character
They were all gambles, and somehow they paid off. None of them stands out as being great or exceptional, with the exception of Barzagli for now, and Quag during that initial 6 month period after we procured him. They are all, to a certain extent and varying degrees, quantity, not quality players.
Form is temporary, class is permanent.
Form is temporary, class is permanent.
All what Marotta did, was placing a handicap to Conte's chances.
History has already proved it, its just that some ppl are too stupid to comprehend it.
Hint, look at our sales since Marotta came and honestly tell us that he is a good transfer manager.
Remember our primary targets and what we ended up buying?
The players we bought were mediocre and overpriced by all international and objectives standards.
For the money we have spent and the club we arem we ought to have done better.
If the mediocre players overperform, or WC class players underperform, its not on the transfer directors shoulders, as he doesnt train or use them, he just buy them.
So, the more incompetent Marotta is, the more extra credit we ought to give to Conte for achieving great things with inferior material.
Imagine what he would have done with a competent manager by his side...
PS: One of the main reasons, i believe, that we are unable to buy a player like Dzeko, Rossi, Cassano, Tevez etc
is Marotta, they are just way beyond his league...
History has already proved it, its just that some ppl are too stupid to comprehend it.
Hint, look at our sales since Marotta came and honestly tell us that he is a good transfer manager.
Remember our primary targets and what we ended up buying?
The players we bought were mediocre and overpriced by all international and objectives standards.
For the money we have spent and the club we arem we ought to have done better.
If the mediocre players overperform, or WC class players underperform, its not on the transfer directors shoulders, as he doesnt train or use them, he just buy them.
So, the more incompetent Marotta is, the more extra credit we ought to give to Conte for achieving great things with inferior material.
Imagine what he would have done with a competent manager by his side...
PS: One of the main reasons, i believe, that we are unable to buy a player like Dzeko, Rossi, Cassano, Tevez etc
is Marotta, they are just way beyond his league...
I partly agree with this. Imo the main reason is the group that led Juventus before Marotta.
Calciopoli crippled us and it was hard to buy top quality back in 2007 and 2008. But we did win 3rd and 2nd place in serie A, we did make it to CL for two years in a row and the summer 2009 was our chance to finally make that step forward. We failed. We made Diego and Melo our 25m eur players and we brought Ciro to coach that team.
After winning 7th place in that season, Marotta was faced with a close to impossible task to buy top quality so he failed. I think the blame lies primary in Secco and co, as well as Calciopoli, and only then in Marotta, who, certainly, has his own sins and played a role in not making this team better than it is.
P.S: To be fair with Marotta, we'll need to wait a bit and see how will he do when Juve will have CL and attract players with it.
Calciopoli crippled us and it was hard to buy top quality back in 2007 and 2008. But we did win 3rd and 2nd place in serie A, we did make it to CL for two years in a row and the summer 2009 was our chance to finally make that step forward. We failed. We made Diego and Melo our 25m eur players and we brought Ciro to coach that team.
After winning 7th place in that season, Marotta was faced with a close to impossible task to buy top quality so he failed. I think the blame lies primary in Secco and co, as well as Calciopoli, and only then in Marotta, who, certainly, has his own sins and played a role in not making this team better than it is.
P.S: To be fair with Marotta, we'll need to wait a bit and see how will he do when Juve will have CL and attract players with it.
I shudder at the thought Alen.
@ Zac: They are quantity purchases. What world class players have we acquired? Vucinic is not world class, neither is Vidal, even though both are very good and are in the quality rather than quantity department. As for Pirlo, he used to be formidable and world class; he has indeed come good for us, but he isn't the Pirlo of the past. I'd be happy if we bought 1 or 2 WC players and complemented them with hard workers. The fact of the matter is we have no game changers or players capable of taking this team to the next level.
@ Zac: They are quantity purchases. What world class players have we acquired? Vucinic is not world class, neither is Vidal, even though both are very good and are in the quality rather than quantity department. As for Pirlo, he used to be formidable and world class; he has indeed come good for us, but he isn't the Pirlo of the past. I'd be happy if we bought 1 or 2 WC players and complemented them with hard workers. The fact of the matter is we have no game changers or players capable of taking this team to the next level.
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