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Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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That's your opinion and I respect it. I don't want to repeat myself over and over again why I wouldn't sign Tevez. If it interests you you can find it somewhere. About Tevez being world class, how do you now that he would play good in Italy? There were plenty of very good players, better than tevez anyway who failed to repeat their form when they changed league: Shevcenko (Milan to Chelsea), Ian Rush (Liverpool to Juve), Kluivert(Ajax to Milan), and there are more. And you're right, we don't have a chance.
Now I see. You don't see Tevez as world class. That's just dumb :wink:
 

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Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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That's your opinion and I respect it. I don't want to repeat myself over and over again why I wouldn't sign Tevez. If it interests you you can find it somewhere. About Tevez being world class, how do you now that he would play good in Italy? There were plenty of very good players, better than tevez anyway who failed to repeat their form when they changed league: Shevcenko (Milan to Chelsea), Ian Rush (Liverpool to Juve), Kluivert(Ajax to Milan), and there are more. And you're right, we don't have a chance.
that is a seriously lame excuse not to want tevez, every player transfer is a risk, but at the same time they are an opportunity that can pay off.

with that statement you made there, that is like saying we shouldn't go for ronaldo, messi etc... cause they may fail in a different league despite being better than tevez.

and for your info, ian rush > Tevez? :lol: at least tevez didn't say england is like being in a foreign country as rush did with Italy and flop hard, at least with tevez he has succeeded wherever he has gone.
 

juventino899

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Dec 29, 2009
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I still think its really unlikely he'd come, but people saying they don't want him at the club need to watch him play more often, he can change a team, true he has personal problems..who doesn't? he isn't happy in Manchester and if we can make it into the CL this year our chances would be much better, we can free up wages from Amauri, Iaquinta, Quag etc. He'd be worth it
 

Jem83

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I think this "Tevez has personal problems"-argument is an exaggeration. I'm not even sure he has personal problems. What, just because he wants to quit Manchester City and doesn't fancy playing for that transvestite Roberta? Look, he told the club a long time ago that he wanted to leave, but no one gives a damn about his opinion at City. Yet he has turned out for Manchester City 99.9 % of the time, playing well, scoring heaps of goals, despite being very unhappy. Would a player with "personal problems" have managed to stay this professional?

The Bayern-incident wasn't nice, but that was ONE incident during his entire spell at City. There were no such episodes either for Manchester United nor West Ham. We're all humans, and we all make mistakes. I think that all Tevez wants is a little respect, which he's getting none of at Manchester City.
 

JuveJay

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Prove what? Of course he has personal problems, it's the whole reason he wants out of Man City. His off the pitch problems. He's a great player and he might thrive at Juve, his family might settle well and then he can concentrate. Maybe.
 

Jem83

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Personal problems in the sense of "currently going through off the pitch difficulties at Man City", then sure. In that sense there's nothing to prove, cause he has those problems. But most of the discussion here is based on a lot of people fearing that he has a negative attitude and that he might bring it to Juventus, which in turn will hurt the club. That's the part I'm not so sure about.

As for his family, if Tevez decides to go to Juve it will be after consulting his family first and them giving him the green light for such a move, don't you think?
 

JuveJay

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Yeah, those problems. How he deals with them is also an issue, but we would just be guessing.

Surely his family were consulted before he moved to London and Manchester, although you would think that any move he has now would involve his family living with him, so they would make their bed and lie in it, so to speak. I know his family are living with him now but the situation hasn't changed.
 

Jem83

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I suppose there is a risk involved with that family-thing of his, but apart from that I truly do see him as a model professional. Being able to perform so well despite being unhappy is part of what makes him world class. And I also just wanted to point out that I don't think it's right to read too much into the Bayern-incident.
 

JuveJay

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funny thing is that people here criticised marotta for not trying hard enough to get aguero, yet people will criticise him trying for tevez :lol:
If this was directed at me I personally wouldn't have a problem with Tevez, I was championing him long before all this nonsense. I would have a problem with us spending on him rather than defenders, though.
 

JuveJay

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I suppose there is a risk involved with that family-thing of his, but apart from that I truly do see him as a model professional. Being able to perform so well despite being unhappy is part of what makes him world class. And I also just wanted to point out that I don't think it's right to read too much into the Bayern-incident.
I don't think he is the smartest individual, which is why there are these problems. That and his manipulative agent.
 

Badass J Elkann

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If this was directed at me I personally wouldn't have a problem with Tevez, I was championing him long before all this nonsense. I would have a problem with us spending on him rather than defenders, though.
no it wasn't directed at you at all. just speaking in general, and how those rejecting tevez are purely on a personal note, and not financially.
 

Vlad

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that is a seriously lame excuse not to want tevez, every player transfer is a risk, but at the same time they are an opportunity that can pay off.

with that statement you made there, that is like saying we shouldn't go for ronaldo, messi etc... cause they may fail in a different league despite being better than tevez.

and for your info, ian rush > Tevez? :lol: at least tevez didn't say england is like being in a foreign country as rush did with Italy and flop hard, at least with tevez he has succeeded wherever he has gone.
I already said my reasons for not wanting Tevez. But here it is again for the last time: Unprofessional, huge wage which we couldn't afford, transfer fee which would mean giving up on resolving defence issues.

P.S. Ian Rush 828 apps 384goals >Tevez 331 app 150 goals
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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I already said my reasons for not wanting Tevez. But here it is again for the last time: Unprofessional, huge wage which we couldn't afford, transfer fee which would mean giving up on resolving defence issues. Your compairing Tevez with Messi or Ronaldo is a lame one. I thought you learned that with Zidane, but you always manage to suprise me.


P.S. Ian Rush 828 apps 384goals >Tevez 331 app 150 goals


:lol:. That doesn't support your argument.
 

radekas

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Aug 26, 2009
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I didn't read last 50 pages, so please help me. How is this whole Tevez saga looking now? Are there any credible sources, quotes, houses bought by Tevez in Torrrrrinoo?
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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I already said my reasons for not wanting Tevez. But here it is again for the last time: Unprofessional, huge wage which we couldn't afford, transfer fee which would mean giving up on resolving defence issues.

P.S. Ian Rush 828 apps 384goals >Tevez 331 app 150 goals

:lol: wtf is that meant to prove? you were never a bright spark at maths were you?
 
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