Carlos Tevez (21 Viewers)

[Vlad]

Tevez>Aguero end of story. Tevez is simply the better player and is one of the few best fowards in the whole world. Aguero is not. Tevez is a big game player. Aguero is not half the big game player Tevez is. Tevez>Aguero. If you believe otherwise you're either: an idiot, illiterate, ignorant, egotisitcal or stubborn.

You described yourself pretty much. Anyway Aguero>Tevez
And if you have watched any of our games in the past couple of season you would have seen that our defence is critical. We don't have quality LB. You probably haven't watched games against Bologna, or Catania, or the whole last season, probably even more.

 

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[CityFanInPeace]

I sincerely doubt any team would cough up that much money considering the situation. It would be really foolish to do so.

It really depends on how many bidders and who they are. Obviously if only one club was to bid, they would control the price. If clubs like Anzhi and PSG get involved, things change.

The Corinthians manager is talking about buying Tevez a few days after saying they weren't in for him.

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[Buck Fuddy]

Well yeah, foolish things happen all the time with teams like Anzhi or (now) PSG. Or Man City, obviously


Let me rephrase it: No "serious" team would cough up that much money, considering the situation.

 

[ZoSo]

You described yourself pretty much. Anyway Aguero>Tevez
And if you have watched any of our games in the past couple of season you would have seen that our defence is critical. We don't have quality LB. You probably haven't watched games against Bologna, or Catania, or the whole last season, probably even more.

No, this statement describes you. You always seem to change arguments of what you are into 'no, you are...'. That is just a sign of unintelligence; that is what 5 year olds say. And don't tell me I'm being hypocritical, because if you were literate, you would see that I'm not.


Well actually, I've watched all games this season besides the Bolgona game and all games last season that were not on at 4:30am on a school morning. If you watched the games you would see that having a player like Tevez would be beastly for this team. We managed not to lose any games this season yet still draw while having huge percentages of possession. That statistic shows that Juve is lacking a real clinical finisher upfront to turn half chances into goals. Having Tevez in games like the Bologna & Catania games would be monsterous. He is exactly the player that could unlock those tight and stubborn defences.

 

[Vlad]

No, this statement describes you. You always seem to change arguments of what you are into 'no, you are...'. That is just a sign of unintelligence; that is what 5 year olds say. And don't tell me I'm being hypocritical, because if you were literate, you would see that I'm not.


Well actually, I've watched all games this season besides the Bolgona game and all games last season that were not on at 4:30am on a school morning. If you watched the games you would see that having a player like Tevez would be beastly for this team. We managed not to lose any games this season yet still draw while having huge percentages of possession. That statistic shows that Juve is lacking a real clinical finisher upfront to turn half chances into goals. Having Tevez in games like the Bologna & Catania games would be monsterous. He is exactly the player that could unlock those tight and stubborn defences.

I'm glad you admit that.
Last season we conceded 47 goals, seson before 56, so defence is not a problem. You really are an expert for those kind of things. Please don't try to coach someone in future. Your analogy is basically if the floor is deteriorated you would try to fix the roof.
Anyway go to your school, maybe you learn something.

 

[ZoSo]

I'm glad you admit that.
Last season we conceded 47 goals, seson before 56, so defence is not a problem. You really are an expert for those kind of things. Please don't try to coach someone in future.
Anyway go to your school, maybe you learn something.

You're a fucking idiot. What did I just say? At least I go to school and am almost four weeks away from full high school education where as you are uneducated.

You should also know that this defence is much better than last year's while still far from being amazing. The addition of Lichtsteiner plus Conte's re-organization of the defence has improved it greatly over the mess that it was last season.

 

[Vlad]

You're a fucking idiot. What did I just say? At least I go to school and am almost four weeks away from full high school education where as you are uneducated.

You should also know that this defence is much better than last year's while still far from being amazing. The addition of Lichtsteiner plus Conte's re-organization of the defence has improved it greatly over the mess that it was last season.

I only finished college, so I guess I'm pretty uneducated.lol
It's just matter of a time when defence will start to leak. Get it in your high school head that in attack we have plenty of options. In defence we don't.

 

[kronos]

so everytime i get in this forum for the past 2 days all i see is the same people arguing about whether tevez is better than aguero.how on earth does either one of you believe you're going to convince the other that you're right?just drop it,or start a poll which still wouldn't really tell who IS the better player in the end.anyway.tevez to real IMO.

 

[ZoSo]

I only finished college, so I guess I'm pretty uneducated.lol
It's just matter of a time when defence will start to leak. Get it in your high school head that in attack we have plenty of options. In defence we don't.

Wow, you said something half worthwhile for once, I'm surprised. Tevez would still have a greater effect than any defender though. And plenty of options/quantity ≠ quality/clinical finishing. This defence also looks a lot more determined than last years.

so everytime i get in this forum for the past 2 days all i see is the same people arguing about whether tevez is better than aguero.how on earth does either one of you believe you're going to convince the other that you're right?just drop it,or start a poll which still wouldn't really tell who IS the better player in the end.anyway.tevez to real IMO.

It's not Tevez v Aguero it's Tevez v CB/LB.

 

[Vlad]

Wow, you said something half worthwhile for once, I'm surprised. Tevez would still have a greater effect than any defender though. And plenty of options/quantity ≠ quality/clinical finishing. This defence also looks a lot more determined than last years.



It's not Tevez v Aguero it's Tevez v CB/LB.

Yes, while you have never said anything.
Do I have to remind you that there was period last year when we were I think 13 games unbeaten, and were solid in the back, but then our usual flaws reappeared. Apart from Licht we brought no one in that department and especially on the left side which is critical spot for us ever since Zambrotta left. Are you saying that Vucinic, Matri, Del Piero, Quag are not good options? But I can claim that having only PDC and Grosso as an options are the lousy ones. Chiellini is solid there but he really is better as CB.

P.S. When you don't agree with someone, it's really childish to reach for insults.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

No, this statement describes you. You always seem to change arguments of what you are into 'no, you are...'. That is just a sign of unintelligence; that is what 5 year olds say. And don't tell me I'm being hypocritical, because if you were literate, you would see that I'm not.


Well actually, I've watched all games this season besides the Bolgona game and all games last season that were not on at 4:30am on a school morning. If you watched the games you would see that having a player like Tevez would be beastly for this team. We managed not to lose any games this season yet still draw while having huge percentages of possession. That statistic shows that Juve is lacking a real clinical finisher upfront to turn half chances into goals. Having Tevez in games like the Bologna & Catania games would be monsterous. He is exactly the player that could unlock those tight and stubborn defences.

that was what i spent hours arguing for last night, how he is a match winner and a player like him can win us matches when the going gets tough as you and i have already used in examples against bologna and catania, Tevez would have been a huge help, dare i say probably would have won us the matches with his impact and quality.

instead all i got awas a load of bullcrap how apparently i was comparing tevez to zidane, whilst others were bringing in giovinco, and friggin pepe into the argument somehow, and that tevez is not a player of any impact in a game what so ever cause apparently he lacks the quality that aguero supposedly has

 

[Vlad]

that was what i spent hours arguing for last night, how he is a match winner and a player like him can win us matches when the going gets tough as you and i have already used in examples against bologna and catania, Tevez would have been a huge help, dare i say probably would have won us the matches with his impact and quality.

In Italy it was always about defence. Teams that had best defences usually would won the title. Just look at the teams which became champions and how little goals they conceded. What is the worth if you can score 2 goals per game when your defence can concede even more. Italy is not Spain or England for that matter. I'm not saying it's the best, but it is what it is.

 

[ZoSo]

You are the most stubborn motherfucker I've ever communicated with in my life. Just accept the fact that Tevez would have a much larger impact than a defender and shutup.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

You are the most stubborn motherfucker I've ever communicated with in my life. Just accept the fact that Tevez would have a much larger impact than a defender and shutup.

That's an opinion, not a fact.

 

[Vlad]

You are the most stubborn motherfucker I've ever communicated with in my life. Just accept the fact that Tevez would have a much larger impact than a defender and shutup.

You don't know what fact is.
But anyway do I have to remind you what happened in 1990/91 season when our genious coach decided that defence is not necessary, and that he wanted to play attacking, attractive football. You can't say we didn't have good players back then. World class Baggio, god players like Hassler and Di canio but our defence was neglected. The result was six lost games in a row and sacking of Maifredi. We finished seventh I think that year. So kid you got lot to learn.

 

[ZoSo]

Don't call me 'kid' asshole. Just because you're older doesn't mean you're better than me.

And when did Conte decide that defence is not necessary? Because to not lose a game so far, the defence must be pretty bad..but to have two draws with large percentages of possession means not reaching potential in attack, something that would be reached with a world class player such as Tevez. But whatever, if you're stuck in the 90's or 2 seasons then good for you, because everyone else isn't. So I'm just going to go with badass and get out of this dumb-ass argument before I come over to Zagshit and show you attacking football, in your ass.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

In Italy it was always about defence. Teams that had best defences usually would won the title. Just look at the teams which became champions and how little goals they conceded. What is the worth if you can score 2 goals per game when your defence can concede even more. Italy is not Spain or England for that matter. I'm not saying it's the best, but it is what it is.

do you remember when lippi was in charge and legro had just joined the club, i distinctly remember Thuram and lippi saying that despite our woeful defence at the time, as long as we scored more than that conceded, we would win. tbh that would probably apply to milan's defence last season, they had as much of a left back issue than we did last season, however abate seems decent enough at RB, whilst this season we have lichtsteiner, yet they won the title, and why? because they had game winners like ibrahimovic that would unlock stubborn defences, that is what we lack.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

do you remember when lippi was in charge and legro had just joined the club, i distinctly remember Thuram and lippi saying that despite our woeful defence at the time, as long as we scored more than that conceded, we would win. tbh that would probably apply to milan's defence last season, they had as much of a left back issue than we did last season, however abate seems decent enough at RB, whilst this season we have lichtsteiner, yet they won the title, and why? because they had game winners like ibrahimovic that would unlock stubborn defences, that is what we lack.

And do you remember when we won all those games 1-0 in the CL?

When Zambrotta said that our aim, before everything else, was to keep a clean sheet every game. Which would inevitably lead to winning most games.


Not taking sides here, but depending on how you look at the game/current squad, you'll have different ideas & priorities in terms of personnel.

 

[Vlad]

Don't call me 'kid' asshole. Just because you're older doesn't mean you're better than me.

And when did Conte decide that defence is not necessary? Because to not lose a game so far, the defence must be pretty bad..but to have two draws with large percentages of possession means not reaching potential in attack, something that would be reached with a world class player such as Tevez. But whatever, if you're stuck in the 90's or 2 seasons then good for you, because everyone else isn't. So I'm just going to go with badass get out of this dumb-ass argument before I come over to Zagshit and show you attacking football, in your ass.

As long as you use those kind of names you are a kid.
And we played just five games so if that's enough to declare how our defence is solid you are even more stupid than I've tought. Nothing would please me more than to see us back on track again. Those few past years were very painful to watch. And if I'm stuck in the 90ies it's because we played probably the best football between 1995-1998. Screw Barcelona today, we would kill them back then.
You can side with who ever you want, it's not like it means much to me, I won't call you an idiot, won't bragg about education ( as you bragged with your highshool, I lold at that one for half an hour), in fact it doesn't interest me.
About kicking shit, well I'm 195 cm, 90 kg so you can give it a shot.

 

[Vlad]

do you remember when lippi was in charge and legro had just joined the club, i distinctly remember Thuram and lippi saying that despite our woeful defence at the time, as long as we scored more than that conceded, we would win. tbh that would probably apply to milan's defence last season, they had as much of a left back issue than we did last season, however abate seems decent enough at RB, whilst this season we have lichtsteiner, yet they won the title, and why? because they had game winners like ibrahimovic that would unlock stubborn defences, that is what we lack.

Man, in that season we were third, and Lippi resigned at the end of it. Our defence was the problem. When Capello came he imidiately bought Canavaro.