Capital Punishment (32 Viewers)

[bianconero]

In savage and ruthless societies like the one in US, where law and order have little meaning, YES.
They have no option, they need to use this punishment, as an intimidating tool, to help them reserve the control!

Capital punishment has no place in post dark-age/medieval Europe though!
We ve already burned all the heretics...

A little contentious, I think.

Some of those so called heretics are my heroes. For instance Tyndale.

 

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[Snoop]

Yes i support Capital Punishment , especially for vsnoop.

what about Vlatko?

 

[Snoop]

I don't support it! It is retarded to punish a person with a death penalty, if he did a huge crime and if he deserves a heavy punishment, then death will be the lightest one. There are other ways to make someone's life a hell. For example, to put him in a small room with Marcus Ellion for 10 minutes.

 

[Alen]

I don't know. Hammurabi would lobby for something very similar to capital punishment, yet much more uncivil.

Hammurabi was the man !
Did you read Hammurabi's code ? Some of the laws there are just...

For example :

1. If any one bring an accusation against a man, and the accused go to the river and leap into the river, if he sink in the river his accuser shall take possession of his house. But if the river prove that the accused is not guilty, and he escape unhurt, then he who had brought the accusation shall be put to death, while he who leaped into the river shall take possession of the house that had belonged to his accuser.
(it's not mentioned here that accused has a huge stone around his neck when he jumps into the river)

2. If any one steal the property of a temple or of the court, he shall be put to death, and also the one who receives the stolen thing from him shall be put to death.

3. If any one buy from the son or the slave of another man, without witnesses or a contract, silver or gold, a male or female slave, an ox or a sheep, an ass or anything, or if he take it in charge, he is considered a thief and shall be put to death

4. If any one take a male or female slave of the court, or a male or female slave of a freed man, outside the city gates, he shall be put to death.

5. If any one break a hole into a house, he shall be put to death before that hole and be buried

6. If fire break out in a house, and some one who comes to put it out cast his eye upon the property of the owner of the house, and take the property of the master of the house, he shall be thrown into that self-same fire

7. If a woman opens a tavern, or enter a tavern to drink, then shall this woman be burned to death.

8. If a man is taken prisoner in war, and there is a sustenance in his house, but his wife leave house and court, and go to another house: because this wife did not keep her court, and went to another house, she shall be judicially condemned and thrown into the water (with a stone around her neck)

9. If a woman quarrel with her husband, and say: "You are not congenial to me," the reasons for her prejudice must be presented. If she is not innocent then this woman shall be cast into the water.

10. If a slave say to his master: "You are not my master," if they convict him his master shall cut off his ear



But if you think Hammurabi was brutal, you should read the Assyrian codes of law. No-one was more brutal than the Assyrians.
They were cutting off ears and noses for fun.
1. If a woman in a quarrel injure the testicle of a man, one of her fingers they shall cut off. If in a quarrel she injure the other testicle, they shall destroy both of her eyes.

:rofl2:

 

[HelterSkelter]

Hey dont laugh.You'd want to destroy a woman's eyes too if she injured your balls

 

[Lion]

greatness.

 

[soulslider]

It depends. If say someone killed a guy because he walked on this guy doing his wife, then no.

But say it's a guy who raped then killed 10 little girls, then no, don't kill him. Torture him. Whip him everyday for 10 years. electrocute him for every person that he killed. That's how you deal punishment, and that's how you scare criminals.

 

[sallyinzaghi]

It's a yes for me

pretty close poll

 

[Azzurri7]

It depends. If say someone killed a guy because he walked on this guy doing his wife, then no.

But say it's a guy who raped then killed 10 little girls, then no, don't kill him. Torture him. Whip him everyday for 10 years. electrocute him for every person that he killed. That's how you deal punishment, and that's how you scare criminals.

I second that.

 

[Martin]

Of course not, we're trying to have a civilization here.

 

[Osman]

Hmmm, this poll is quite even. We have little talibans all over this forum

 

[Bjerknes]

Hammurabi was the man !
Did you read Hammurabi's code ? Some of the laws there are just...

For example :

1. If any one bring an accusation against a man, and the accused go to the river and leap into the river, if he sink in the river his accuser shall take possession of his house. But if the river prove that the accused is not guilty, and he escape unhurt, then he who had brought the accusation shall be put to death, while he who leaped into the river shall take possession of the house that had belonged to his accuser.
(it's not mentioned here that accused has a huge stone around his neck when he jumps into the river)

2. If any one steal the property of a temple or of the court, he shall be put to death, and also the one who receives the stolen thing from him shall be put to death.

3. If any one buy from the son or the slave of another man, without witnesses or a contract, silver or gold, a male or female slave, an ox or a sheep, an ass or anything, or if he take it in charge, he is considered a thief and shall be put to death

4. If any one take a male or female slave of the court, or a male or female slave of a freed man, outside the city gates, he shall be put to death.

5. If any one break a hole into a house, he shall be put to death before that hole and be buried

6. If fire break out in a house, and some one who comes to put it out cast his eye upon the property of the owner of the house, and take the property of the master of the house, he shall be thrown into that self-same fire

7. If a woman opens a tavern, or enter a tavern to drink, then shall this woman be burned to death.

8. If a man is taken prisoner in war, and there is a sustenance in his house, but his wife leave house and court, and go to another house: because this wife did not keep her court, and went to another house, she shall be judicially condemned and thrown into the water (with a stone around her neck)

9. If a woman quarrel with her husband, and say: "You are not congenial to me," the reasons for her prejudice must be presented. If she is not innocent then this woman shall be cast into the water.

10. If a slave say to his master: "You are not my master," if they convict him his master shall cut off his ear



But if you think Hammurabi was brutal, you should read the Assyrian codes of law. No-one was more brutal than the Assyrians.
They were cutting off ears and noses for fun.
1. If a woman in a quarrel injure the testicle of a man, one of her fingers they shall cut off. If in a quarrel she injure the other testicle, they shall destroy both of her eyes.

:rofl2:

Jesus Christ.

I read Hammurabi's stuff before, but the Assyrians? That shit is brutal!

 

[Red]

I wrote a thesis on Capital punishment a couple of years back and came down in favour of Capital Punishment, but only just.

I decided that it provides enough of a deterrent to make it worth the risk of the occasional miscarriage of justice.

 

[Seven]

It's scientifically proven it doesn't scare people though.

 

[Red]

Depends what statistics you choose to believe.

It was a few years ago that wrote my thesis, so there may be more convincing evidence now for the anti-death penalty case.

 

[Martin]

I wrote a thesis on Capital punishment a couple of years back and came down in favour of Capital Punishment, but only just.

I decided that it provides enough of a deterrent to make it worth the risk of the occasional miscarriage of justice.

"worth the occasional risk"? What on earth? So you wouldn't mind your kid (or yourself) executed by mistake if it means some number of murderers get the same treatment?

 

[Red]

"worth the occasional risk"? What on earth? So you wouldn't mind your kid (or yourself) executed by mistake if it means some number of murderers get the same treatment?

I was viewing it from an objective position, and the question was whether Capital Punishment would make Britain a safer place to live. My conclusion was that it would save lives, if implemented properly.

I was looking at the bigger picture rather than individual cases.

 

[Martin]

I was viewing it from an objective position, and the question was whether Capital Punishment would make Britain a safer place to live. My conclusion was that it would save lives, if implemented properly.

I was looking at the bigger picture rather than individual cases.

Oh dear god, man. "the bigger picture"? Ask not what your country can do for you is the deal of the day then.

I just find it completely absurd that anyone can consider the idea of capital punishment and say "yeah that seems like a good idea". Even if no people are ever unjustly executed. It's just so overwhelmingly counterintuitive that we should kill people because they committed crimes, it's just throwing in the towel.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

i love it when you get angry

 

[Martin]

I love you all the time