Capello is going for sure (5 Viewers)
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A: Capello may or may not see out his contract.
A: Capello will win or may do very well in the champions league next season.
A: Capello will always or nearly always go it alone.
A: Capello is to some of us, but not to others, a bit boring and plays too defensively.
A: Capello may or may not be a charmless bragart.
A: Capello will win or may do very well in the champions league next season.
A: Capello will always or nearly always go it alone.
A: Capello is to some of us, but not to others, a bit boring and plays too defensively.
A: Capello may or may not be a charmless bragart.
I think coaches in general get a lot more credit, and blame, than they deserve in football. But while Capello isn't the master who turned a crap Juve team into Scudetto champions, I don't think there are many coaches in Serie A right now that would generate the level of success we had this year with the resources we had: players as well as financial. Capello doesn't deserve a big lot of the credit for sure. But it's not like the team succeeded in spite of him here.
That said, Seven, it's pretty clear that Capello is a cockroach that has seriously crawled up your ass. Let's leave it at that. I don't think anyone can enter any rational discussion here if we can't get beyond the blinders of emotional responses.
That said, Seven, it's pretty clear that Capello is a cockroach that has seriously crawled up your ass. Let's leave it at that. I don't think anyone can enter any rational discussion here if we can't get beyond the blinders of emotional responses.
I'm sorry but Lippi takes the blame for not suring up the defense last season. It was obvious we had weak defenders who could not handle attackers running at them with pace, especially Legro and Montero. Lippi's job is to realise that and fix the problem one way or another.
If you have defenders who are slow and not very adept at making ground tackles you must try your best to stop the attackers from reaching your back line. How do you do that? Clog up the midfield, play with two defensive midfielders if need be. But what did Lippi do? Keep playing with an attacking formation and not filling the holes in midfield. He did no instruct the left midfielder, most of the time Appiah, to track back next to Tacchinardi to fill the holes in midfield. We had too many instances where attackers were running at our backline with Tacchinardi and Appiah following behind them. That needed to be sorted out and a change in tactics needed to be made to fill the holes created in midfield. It wasn't always the defense's fault last season, and considering we didn't have a individual brilliance back there like Milan we needed to secure the middle. Lippi did not choose to do that, so that is one of his only faults.
If you have defenders who are slow and not very adept at making ground tackles you must try your best to stop the attackers from reaching your back line. How do you do that? Clog up the midfield, play with two defensive midfielders if need be. But what did Lippi do? Keep playing with an attacking formation and not filling the holes in midfield. He did no instruct the left midfielder, most of the time Appiah, to track back next to Tacchinardi to fill the holes in midfield. We had too many instances where attackers were running at our backline with Tacchinardi and Appiah following behind them. That needed to be sorted out and a change in tactics needed to be made to fill the holes created in midfield. It wasn't always the defense's fault last season, and considering we didn't have a individual brilliance back there like Milan we needed to secure the middle. Lippi did not choose to do that, so that is one of his only faults.
Its all Lippi's fault, he sould pay by himself the money needed to buy stars like Emerson and Cannavaro,
he knew Maresca and Legro wouldnt be enough,
that was a great mistake, he was too greedy,:greedy:
he knew Moggi wouldnt spend money for a team wich won two consecutive titles...
thank God we got rid of him,the man hasnt a vision for a winning team,
look what Cap bought us?!?:fero:
he knew Maresca and Legro wouldnt be enough,
that was a great mistake, he was too greedy,:greedy:
he knew Moggi wouldnt spend money for a team wich won two consecutive titles...
thank God we got rid of him,the man hasnt a vision for a winning team,
look what Cap bought us?!?:fero:
++ [ originally posted by Juve_Kosova ] ++
People who loves DP hates Capello!
People who loves DP LOVES Lippi!
People who loves DP hates Zlatan!
People who loves DP loves "only" DP!
People who loves DP HATES Cassano!
People who loves DP hates ME
anyway this is my opinion...
Forza Juventus !
People who loves DP hates Capello!
People who loves DP LOVES Lippi!
People who loves DP hates Zlatan!
People who loves DP loves "only" DP!
People who loves DP HATES Cassano!
People who loves DP hates ME
anyway this is my opinion...
Forza Juventus !
There are no two ways about it, Lippi is as stubborn a coach as they come, but that doesnt take away from the hordes of attributes he has brought to the Juve mentality. I think you need to broaden your perspective than harp on that oneseason, really. Even in the second stint for those three years, he did as much as a coach could possibly do. And besides, why would he want to change his style coming off those two relatively successful trophy winning seasons? I dont see why the season is made out to be a disaster? We finished 3rd, reached the finals of the coppa and made it past the group phase in the CL. All that after those two trophy laden seasons. I dont think any team in football can go about doing a job as consistently as Lippi's Juve has done on all fronts. Really, i think you're just being a little overcritical of the man, and his views.
lippi's defence was based in a man named Davids,
that beast had a great impact in our team,
with him in our team it was like we were having an extra player,
(we could practically play with 1DM like having2)
the amount of power this beast used made the difference many times,
our defence effectiveness was his fault too,
one year without him and our defenders hadnt the power to go on,
Lippi tried many schemes(more offensive football than Juve's standard) and players(Tacchi,Appiah,Maresca) but nothing could replace him.
Juve was never the team full of stars,
we always had a balance in our team's proportion on stars/normal players,(the minimum stars number to have a strong,solid team)
after Davids left the balance colapsed along with our defence and team.
a dynamic DM was critical for our team,
the managers tried to pursuade Davids to stay initialy and when he left we didnt sign someone able to do a part of his job,
i believe the reasons were economical,(thats were the reasons he left too)
the pitbull did take everything very serius,
he was running like mad till 90' to recover unrecoverable balls in meaningless games,with his absence everybody sould do an extra work,
finally they were exausted,
also the motivation wasnt the same after u r the prooven champion,
no motivation=no extra work=no extra performance=no extra results.
Some people decided to give a try with a star less in our team,
that was a failed experiment,
it wasnt Lippi's neither Moggi's fault,
(remember the Vieira+Gattuso rumors?)
the transfers policy budget isnt decided by the coach,
Lippi did what he could with the materials he had,
maybe he didnt have the option to choose the sure solutions Cap used because of clubs policy,
our policy was to buy new talents, make them stars and then sell them for the profit,
what we did with DV,Miccoli and Maresca backs that,
u cant make a succes with names like that,
Lippi realised that, took the responsibility and left,
they hired Cap to bring back to Juve's franchise more value,
our number one objective is CL,
only this we can become internationaly respected and retain our status quo as a big european club,
to do this, we hired some big names for a big mission.
Both coaches demonstrated in the past, they know football,
they know how to build a solid team,
Lippi had a solid team, was that made with random names?
Cap had a solid team, was that made with random names?
coaches are the same,the only thing changes are the players,
as someone said the coaches cant enter the field and play football for them.
And i repeat my question,may the coach affect 60% the team,
why a coach have good results one year and the other doesnt?
He doesnt apply the same mental work?
that beast had a great impact in our team,
with him in our team it was like we were having an extra player,
(we could practically play with 1DM like having2)
the amount of power this beast used made the difference many times,
our defence effectiveness was his fault too,
one year without him and our defenders hadnt the power to go on,
Lippi tried many schemes(more offensive football than Juve's standard) and players(Tacchi,Appiah,Maresca) but nothing could replace him.
Juve was never the team full of stars,
we always had a balance in our team's proportion on stars/normal players,(the minimum stars number to have a strong,solid team)
after Davids left the balance colapsed along with our defence and team.
a dynamic DM was critical for our team,
the managers tried to pursuade Davids to stay initialy and when he left we didnt sign someone able to do a part of his job,
i believe the reasons were economical,(thats were the reasons he left too)
the pitbull did take everything very serius,
he was running like mad till 90' to recover unrecoverable balls in meaningless games,with his absence everybody sould do an extra work,
finally they were exausted,
also the motivation wasnt the same after u r the prooven champion,
no motivation=no extra work=no extra performance=no extra results.
Some people decided to give a try with a star less in our team,
that was a failed experiment,
it wasnt Lippi's neither Moggi's fault,
(remember the Vieira+Gattuso rumors?)
the transfers policy budget isnt decided by the coach,
Lippi did what he could with the materials he had,
maybe he didnt have the option to choose the sure solutions Cap used because of clubs policy,
our policy was to buy new talents, make them stars and then sell them for the profit,
what we did with DV,Miccoli and Maresca backs that,
u cant make a succes with names like that,
Lippi realised that, took the responsibility and left,
they hired Cap to bring back to Juve's franchise more value,
our number one objective is CL,
only this we can become internationaly respected and retain our status quo as a big european club,
to do this, we hired some big names for a big mission.
Both coaches demonstrated in the past, they know football,
they know how to build a solid team,
Lippi had a solid team, was that made with random names?
Cap had a solid team, was that made with random names?
coaches are the same,the only thing changes are the players,
as someone said the coaches cant enter the field and play football for them.
And i repeat my question,may the coach affect 60% the team,
why a coach have good results one year and the other doesnt?
He doesnt apply the same mental work?
depends on who replaces him. You dont lose Capello and replace him with a no one. Juve always has italian coaches, besides Lippi, i dont think any other italian coach can rival capello.
I wouldnt mind seeing a Deschamps or even a Vialli on our bench one day, but IMO that these two are miles behind Capello.
I really do not like the football Juve is playing right now...its predictable and boring and at times, we destroy the game.
I wouldnt mind seeing a Deschamps or even a Vialli on our bench one day, but IMO that these two are miles behind Capello.
I really do not like the football Juve is playing right now...its predictable and boring and at times, we destroy the game.