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    http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=7&a=174403
    In merito a Lecce-Milan 2-2 è presente agli atti un sms inviato il 13 maggio, alle 11,20, da parte di Martino Manfredi, allora segretario della Can, a Meani, dirigente rossonero. Si legge testuale, in relazione a chi arbitrerà Lecce-Milan: «Trefo… non mollate vi prego, siamo tutti con voi». Manfredi compare in diverse intercettazioni, soprattutto via sms, come l'informatore di molti club.
    Just prior to Lecce-Milan (I recall some 7 minutes of injury time in this one) an SMS was sent (13-May-2005 at 11:20) by Martino Manfredi, then secretary of the Commossione Arbitrale Nazionale (National Referee Commission) to Milan’s Meani. The text read “We’re sending Trefo (Trefoloni)…don’t give up I beg you, we’re all with you”. Manfredi appears in MANY calls but especially texts.

    This is the league that Moggi controlled.
     
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    "Parlo perché ho smesso di fare l'assistente".
    Coppola, ex guardalinee: "Carabinieri dissero che sull'Inter non c'era niente".
    "Oggi si parla dei nerazzuri, ma lo facevano tutti quanti".
    Inter-Venezia 2-1, 16 settembre 2001. Rosetti arbitro, lei uno dei due assistenti: cosa accade?
    «L’ho detto in aula nel processo di Napoli e lo ripeto ora. Viene cacciato Cordoba dell’Inter per un cazzotto a Bettarini. Pugno che, nel referto, sarebbe dovuta diventare un semplice gesto per divincolarsi...».
    Ma se lei aveva visto un pugno perchè doveva diventare un’altra cosa?
    «Perchè funzionava così. Qualcuno chiamava, i designatori dell’epoca (Bergamo e Pairetto, ndr) erano sensibili a pressioni e il gioco era fatto. Dopo la partita entrò negli spogliatoi Facchetti e ci disse che avevamo sbagliato nel non dare un rigore che c’era all’Inter e nell’espellere Cordoba: se avessi alleggerito il mio referto, il difensore non avrebbe preso due giornate, ma io non cambiai una virgola e non ho più fatto l’assistente in A».
    Lei raccontò tutto prima in Figc, poi, scoppiata Calciopoli, ai carabinieri.
    «Quando incontrai i carabinieri rimasi sorpreso dal loro atteggiamento: sembrava che l’argomento non gli interessasse forse perché quello che stavo raccontando non andava nella direzione da loro intrapresa. Furono molto sbrigativi dicendo che sull’Inter non avevano intercettazioni».
    Oggi, ci sono.
    «Non sono sorpreso. Ora si parla dell’Inter, ma lo facevano tutti».
    Perché ha parlato solo lei?
    «Perché io ho smesso di fare il guardalinee».

    Coppola (ex linseman) spoke to reporters.
    «I can speak now because I am no longer an assistant referee», «The police told me there were no Inter wire taps (2006). » «Today they talk about Inter, but everybody did it».
    Inter-Venezia 2-1, 16th September 2001. Rosetti referee, you were one of two assistants: what happened?«I said it in court in Naples and I’ll repeat it now. Cordoba was dismissed for having struck Bettarini. The punch was to be reported as a simple gesture to liberate himeself».
    But if you saw a punch, why did it need to become something else?
    «Because that is how it worked. People called the referee designators (Bergamo e Pairetto, ndr) they were sensitive to pressure and that was the game. After the game I went to my locker room and Facchetti told me I was wrog to not award a penalty to Inter and for the red againist Cordoba: had I been more gentle in calling the foul he wouldn’t have missed two games, I refused to admit my “mistake” and his red stood, that season I didn’t work in Serie in A again».
    Did you report this to the FIGC and at the onset of Calciopoli to the police when you were questioned?«When I met with the police I was left perplexed by their behavior: it seemed as though they did not care, perhaps because what I was stating wasn’t in the direction they were going. They seemed very rushed and stated that there were no wire taps pertaining to Inter».
    Today, there are.
    «I’m not surprised. Today they talk about Inter, but everyone did it».
    Why are you the only one to come forward? «Because I am no longer a linesman».
     

    JBF

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    Moggi's lawyer: "On April 13 we will show that Calciopoli never existed. We are at the point of showing its non-existence because the so called 'dome' was born from an inconsistent concept.

    "I will not say more, because I cannot discuss courtroom things with the media."
     

    mondo1

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    Where are all the phonetaprs from???? I thought it will Be discussed on the 13 th??? What i Read here is some heavy stuff... Its pretty clear that Milan and Inter are guilty... But nothing will happen thats Italy... Nothing happened in 2006 so Why now??
     
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    Try again in a couple of hours. They have the worst server possible I think. But the article is worth the wait, really.

    Regards,
    Thanks, will do :pint:
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    Club Focus - Juventus - Is John Elkann the real reason for Juventus' failure?

    By Mina Rzouki

    “I would return quickly if Andrea Agnelli were at the helm, also to repay the kindness of the Juventus fans whose affection I have never lacked in recent years.” Those were the words of Juve’s ex-Managing Director, Luciano Moggi, as he explained his desire to return to the Turin giants as soon as his five year ban has ended.


    Gigi Moncalvo, a journalist and a politician, recently published a book in which lies a chapter entitled ‘Moggi and Giraudo - a danger to John’. Moncalvo believes that Juve’s failure in properly defending their team with regards to the Calciopoli was down to the fact that John Elkann wanted both Luciano Moggi and Antonio Giraudo out due to their intentions of bringing Andrea Agnelli in. With Andrea as President of Juventus, John’s ambition of reaching the pinnacle of power would be hard to realize due to the competition he would face from his cousin. A sentiment shared by Moggi, who in October, telephoned a radio show and accused his former club of accepting unfair punishments and poorly defending their team in hopes of banishing Andrea.

    Umberto was of course Juve’s President and Gianni’s brother who created a very efficient and tight management that allowed the team to enjoy great success and afforded his successor an easier task at presiding over the legendary club. Moncalvo’s chapter documents how Giraudo prepared for the arrival of Andrea to Juve, Umberto’s son, as homage to the great Umberto and as a gesture of gratitude. In addition to his popularity, Andrea was perfect for the role as President as he not only carried the Agnelli name, a name which John refused out of respect to his father Alain Elkann, but an Agnelli who graduated from the prestigious Oxford University, had gained valuable work experience, and alongside his mother, Umberto’s second wife Allegra, held Juventus within his heart.

    His cousin John held great ambitions of success and power and knew all too well how a football team’s success can translate into success for the individual presiding over it. You need only look at how well Silvio Berlusconi’s political career benefitted from Milan’s utter dominance in the world of football. With Andrea at the helm of the Bianconeri and backed by two of the most intelligent football managers around, Juve was destined for even greater success and most fans would have attributed it all to Umberto’s son despite the fact that the triad would have been responsible. Aware of the competition and of the possible power Andrea would earn from Juve’s success and the opportunities that would present themselves to him, John needed Andrea to walk away and what better way to do it than to get rid of his staunchest backers, Moggi and Giraudo. And so Calciopoli was allowed to break down Juventus and force Andrea to walk away in order to allow only one man to continue the Agnelli name, free of any rivalry.


    However, John’s plan backfired and Juve risks falling into an abyss considering the past two years’ results. He may well have secured his position at the top but the fans still cry out for Andrea and Moggi repeatedly speaks out and with Moncalvo’s book out for the whole world to read, it may be time to change course. Elkann was unable to continue Juve’s winning dynasty and may now be forced to turn to his cousin in hopes of resurrecting this club as indicated when Andrea accompanied his younger cousin in a trip to Vinovo in December to greet the team and Coach. Have the tables turned?

    Whether you believe this conspiracy theory or not, it certainly allows for a new vantage point and perhaps may explain why Juve, a team that was deemed unbreakable, well connected and infinitely powerful failed to properly defend its honour. Juve fans will always have you believe that they were innocent and that Moggipoli was all done in an effort to reduce the Old Lady to utter failure. Perhaps these theories will forever remain mere theories or perhaps John truly is the power starved, ruthlessly ambitious businessman who forced his beloved team into paying the price for his success as the head of a family torn apart by family feuds.

    Back to the real world and the next game will provide the Bianconeri with the ideal and rather ironic stage to truly crash and burn when faced with their ex Coach, Claudio Ranieri and his on-form Roma team. No-one could have predicted the current league standings earlier in the campaign when Juve thrashed the Romans thanks by in large to the Brazilian contingent but alas seven defeats later and Juve are on the brink of a total meltdown. To those wondering whether fans regret asking for Ranieri’s dismissal, here’s a quote from an ardent supporter: “Better to die in the arms of a Bianconero then survive in the hands of a Romanista.”
     

    solojuve1897

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    So how many new phone taps are coming out a day? Seems like every day you guys are posting more and more to be translated.

    I wonder what this is doing to the appeals trial.
     

    Hængebøffer

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    What I don't understand is why all of this exists in the first place. Is it legal in Italy to tap phone calls like that? And if it isn't, which would make a lot of sense, why aren't the ones who did this in jail?

    Anyways, looks like April and May will be ugly yet again. Just in time for the World Cup one might say.
    No, it is illegal.

    New crisis in italian football= World Cup trophy to Italy :eyebrows:
     

    solojuve1897

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    Here's the call in english, you decide:

    Bergamo: «hello».
    Galliani: «its galliani good afternoon».
    Bergamo: «good afternoon director how are things?».
    Galliani: «i looked for you a few times last night but it was always engaged?».
    Bergamo: «i still havent recovered from last sunday, it was a trauma in the family that left a scar (juventus 1-0 milan)».
    Galliani: «us to, us to».
    Bergamo: «we all thought that even if that game went really badly we at least could have drawn».
    Galliani: «and if we drew we would have beaten lecce easily (milan 2 - 2 lecce) and we would have been on top of the ladder>>
    Bergamo: «do you think ancelotti could have put too much trust in his players and in doing so didnt consider that pirlo and seedorf werent 100%
    ?».
    Galliani: «from today we continue with the project of istanbul...what a terrible sunday».
    Bergamo: «see what happens when a president (Semeraro ndr) of a football club (lecce) dares to give the responsibilty to a refferee for the misbehaviour for the fans and the reactions of the players ».
    Galliani: «and then he yells and screams at half time in the locker room, shameful.(at halftime father and son are yelled at by ndr?)».
    Bergamo: «yes, trefaloni spoke to me but after la domenica sportiva(italian football talk show) where everything was said, and more».

    Bergamo is a Milan-lover. That's the only "crime" I can see there. But there's another call which has surfaced between Galliani and Bergamo which sounded very suspicious.

    This one:

    Bergamo e Galliani
    "Mi faccia sentire un po' il suo calore il suo calore in questo momento perché...". A parlare al telefono è l'ex designatore arbitrale Paolo Bergamo, con Adriano Galliani, ad del Milan, nell'aprile del 2005, prima della sfida scudetto Milan-Juventus. Ecco il testo della trascrizione, fatta dal perito di parte della difesa Moggi.
    Bergamo: "Dottore buonasera".
    Galliani: "Eccomi buonasera".
    Bergamo: "Volevo farla partecipe di una guerra di cui il solo responsabile sono io, Paolo Bergamo, perché Griselli (un assistente) è di Livorno, se avesse visto salvava capra e cavoli, ma siccome non è andata così...è uno sfogo tra me e lei...".
    Galliani: "Questi signori han perso la testa mi creda, perché ci sono comportamenti nei confronti dell'universo, in Lega in Federazione...".
    Bergamo: "Io glielo voglio dire perché si sappia, tra me e lei naturalmente...".
    Griselli: "Non si preoccupi tale rimane...".
    Bergamo: "Io posso sbagliare magari una griglia penso che un arbitro sia in forma e magari non è in forma, oppure l'arbitro è in forma e sbaglia, però a priori voler sbagliare è tutta un'altra cosa, mi taglierei le mani mi creda... Ecco questo filo che ho con lei vorrei tenerlo fino a giugno Dottore...".
    Gallliani: "No no no ma poi si vedrà... adesso vediamo la fine del campionato... con i giusti equilibri...".
    Bergamo: "Mi faccia sentire un po' il suo calore il suo calore in questo momento perché...".
    Galliani: "Assolutamente...".
    Bergamo: "Sono solo, non solo, meno che solo...".
    Galliani: "Ma no no ci sono io...".

    I need a proper english translation to understand it in full though...
     

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