Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (45 Viewers)
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What do they mean? I haven't been able to translate. Is it good or bad?
Dude, come on Bozi. What do you think the EU/FIFA will do if it turns out Inter were the wrong ones and FIGC don't react the same way towards them? A crime is a crime anyway you look at it. And it will only make them look 10 times worse knowing they dealt a severely heavy blow to Juve that cost them millions for years and not look to redeem themselves by adequately punishing those truly guilty. You can't just crush a club mistakenly and brush the real criminals under the rug because you are "afraid" to look bad. That makes no sense whatsoever that you are saying. (I know JCK feels the same way). If the FIGC really want to clear the italian name and game then they compensate Juve and give them the titles back and hand a severe punishment to Inter or to whomever is guilty. Then you apologize to Juve fans around the world, the club and Serie A for making a rash decision in 2006. That's how you fix your name.
And if the shit does hit the fan for Inter and the FIGC then they have no choice but to bow to popular demand and apologize because the media will hit them hard. That's how things work. You make a mistake like that that cost millions in dollars, a damaged brand name, mistreatment of people and when that actually comes to light there is no easy way getting around that. (*cough*nixon, clinton, darrel strawberry, adrian mutu, tiger woods, etc) You can't hid from the truth and trying to avoid it or sugar coat something that the entire world knows is not going to clear your name nor will it make it go away any faster.
And if those fuckers try then Juventus better go full steam ahead at those pussies with all of her might.
(I know my examples are a bit farfetched but the theory behind it still stands)
Yes please. The compensation better be a sweet Golden Egg.
Dude, come on Bozi. What do you think the EU/FIFA will do if it turns out Inter were the wrong ones and FIGC don't react the same way towards them? A crime is a crime anyway you look at it. And it will only make them look 10 times worse knowing they dealt a severely heavy blow to Juve that cost them millions for years and not look to redeem themselves by adequately punishing those truly guilty. You can't just crush a club mistakenly and brush the real criminals under the rug because you are "afraid" to look bad. That makes no sense whatsoever that you are saying. (I know JCK feels the same way). If the FIGC really want to clear the italian name and game then they compensate Juve and give them the titles back and hand a severe punishment to Inter or to whomever is guilty. Then you apologize to Juve fans around the world, the club and Serie A for making a rash decision in 2006. That's how you fix your name.
And if the shit does hit the fan for Inter and the FIGC then they have no choice but to bow to popular demand and apologize because the media will hit them hard. That's how things work. You make a mistake like that that cost millions in dollars, a damaged brand name, mistreatment of people and when that actually comes to light there is no easy way getting around that. (*cough*nixon, clinton, darrel strawberry, adrian mutu, tiger woods, etc) You can't hid from the truth and trying to avoid it or sugar coat something that the entire world knows is not going to clear your name nor will it make it go away any faster.
And if those fuckers try then Juventus better go full steam ahead at those pussies with all of her might.
(I know my examples are a bit farfetched but the theory behind it still stands)
Yes please. The compensation better be a sweet Golden Egg.
Moggi's lawyers finally unearthed phone taps that TIM-Telecom & police had not handed to the courts for investigation in 2006. Who are the calls to and from?
Moratti - Facchetti - Bergamo - Maria Grazia Fazi (Referee Association Secretary) ---regarding a dinner that they had the day before... an Inter victory over Livorno where referees were mentioned.
AND...
Galliani - Pairetto. Remember that Milan weren't relegated because the calls that were presented were between Meani (low level director who physically threatened a linesman) and Galliani said "he had no idea". BULLSHIT. We always knew it was.
April 13 the court will hear the recordings in their entirety.
The consequences are limitless and I can’t pretend to know what will happen when the calls are heard. I’m sure Milan and Inter will weasel out of harms way but this is of huge relevance to Juve’s defense. It's not the "they were doing it too" routine. It literally challenges the very premise of the initial verdict.
You have to understand that Milan and Juve were never punished for match fixing. Fiorentina and Lazio were another matter. Diego Della Vale proposed fixing a draw with Lotito’s Lazio and Lotito refused but failed to report the issue to the FIGC and so both were penalized.
Milan and Juve were different. No matches were proven to be fixed or even attempted but it was alleged that Moggi had developed an exclusive and unsportsmanlike relationship with referee designer Paolo Bergamo which the court alleged granted Juve the possibility of solidifying an unfair advantage over other teams. Milan (through Meani) were accused of the same style of relationship with the other designer Pierluigi Pairetto though they were slapped on the wrist because Galliani and Milan stated that Meani operated alone without the rest of the society knowing. We now know that Galliani too made calls.
We don’t know what is specifically stated on the calls because they have not been officially heard yet. The assumption is that one call at least will be a request for a behind closed doors dinner with Bergamo because of a call that Bergamo made to someone else where he says “I just got off the phone with Moratti and he wants to have dinner with me and Facchetti about the referee situation” (which is what prompted Moggi’s lawyers to investigate). For all we know the calls are as innocent as Moggi’s were but it is nonetheless a huge revelation.
This revelation does a few things:
a) It takes that exclusivity claim and kills it because clearly other directors from other teams had the same relationship with the designers which Bergamo always stated. He always asked where the rest of the calls were that proved that all directors contacted him which would have totally absolved him because he couldn’t possibly favor everyone.
b) It proves Moratti and Facchetti were liars when they said that they never called referee designers.
c) It calls into question the validity of all the “evidence” that was used in 2006 because if these calls were omitted than who knows what else is missing?
I’m fairly certain that our current directors will do nothing about it but expect our shareholders to take this thing and run with it.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=7&a=173739
By the way, Auricchio is the carabiniere (cop) that was in charge of handling the wire taps prior to them being given to the sporting tribunal in 2006. He is a well known police figure who has already accumulated charges relating to evidence tampering in an early 90’s trial relating to a mayoral election in Rome.
Moratti - Facchetti - Bergamo - Maria Grazia Fazi (Referee Association Secretary) ---regarding a dinner that they had the day before... an Inter victory over Livorno where referees were mentioned.
AND...
Galliani - Pairetto. Remember that Milan weren't relegated because the calls that were presented were between Meani (low level director who physically threatened a linesman) and Galliani said "he had no idea". BULLSHIT. We always knew it was.
April 13 the court will hear the recordings in their entirety.
The consequences are limitless and I can’t pretend to know what will happen when the calls are heard. I’m sure Milan and Inter will weasel out of harms way but this is of huge relevance to Juve’s defense. It's not the "they were doing it too" routine. It literally challenges the very premise of the initial verdict.
You have to understand that Milan and Juve were never punished for match fixing. Fiorentina and Lazio were another matter. Diego Della Vale proposed fixing a draw with Lotito’s Lazio and Lotito refused but failed to report the issue to the FIGC and so both were penalized.
Milan and Juve were different. No matches were proven to be fixed or even attempted but it was alleged that Moggi had developed an exclusive and unsportsmanlike relationship with referee designer Paolo Bergamo which the court alleged granted Juve the possibility of solidifying an unfair advantage over other teams. Milan (through Meani) were accused of the same style of relationship with the other designer Pierluigi Pairetto though they were slapped on the wrist because Galliani and Milan stated that Meani operated alone without the rest of the society knowing. We now know that Galliani too made calls.
We don’t know what is specifically stated on the calls because they have not been officially heard yet. The assumption is that one call at least will be a request for a behind closed doors dinner with Bergamo because of a call that Bergamo made to someone else where he says “I just got off the phone with Moratti and he wants to have dinner with me and Facchetti about the referee situation” (which is what prompted Moggi’s lawyers to investigate). For all we know the calls are as innocent as Moggi’s were but it is nonetheless a huge revelation.
This revelation does a few things:
a) It takes that exclusivity claim and kills it because clearly other directors from other teams had the same relationship with the designers which Bergamo always stated. He always asked where the rest of the calls were that proved that all directors contacted him which would have totally absolved him because he couldn’t possibly favor everyone.
b) It proves Moratti and Facchetti were liars when they said that they never called referee designers.
c) It calls into question the validity of all the “evidence” that was used in 2006 because if these calls were omitted than who knows what else is missing?
I’m fairly certain that our current directors will do nothing about it but expect our shareholders to take this thing and run with it.
http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=7&a=173739
By the way, Auricchio is the carabiniere (cop) that was in charge of handling the wire taps prior to them being given to the sporting tribunal in 2006. He is a well known police figure who has already accumulated charges relating to evidence tampering in an early 90’s trial relating to a mayoral election in Rome.
thrown in jail and banned from sport for life!
