Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (50 Viewers)

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Calciopoli never existed, says Moggi Wednesday 2 December, 2009

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Former Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi has denied Calciopoli ever existed in light of claims from Napoli President Aurelio De Laurentiis.

The matter has resurfaced of late with De Laurentiis making the sensational claim that he feels a new Calciopoli is emerging in Italian football.

De Laurentiis is upset with a number of refereeing decisions that have gone against his side even though Napoli are on an eight-game unbeaten run.

Speaking to Radio Kiss Kiss, Moggi asked: “What is Calciopoli? Calciopoli is the refereeing mistakes, nothing more. There have always been mistakes. Up until a certain moment the Presidents all spoke about good faith, then De Laurentiis, Zamparini, the President of Bologna, and Mourinho got fed up and now they all talk about Calciopoli.

“They are all complaining now since referees are making mistakes in industrial quantities. The referees make mistakes and Trefoloni, who is the worst, is obviously led to making such mistakes. Anyway I don't believe in conditioning the Calciopoli trials in Napoli. Trefoloni is distracted by nature.

“The truth is that Calciopoli does not exist. It only exists in the mind of those who wanted to carry forward this thing and it's demonstrated by the sentence recently delivered in Turin that has disclosed the existence of an alliance to see Juventus defeated.

“The absolution that comes from the trial in Turin says a lot because the fact does not hold. Calciopoli was born because the club has not defended itself in Roma and in Turin. The referees make mistakes, some because they are not capable, others because they have to make important decisions in a few seconds.
Trefoloni could even have three minutes, he would still make the same mistakes,” he concluded.

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lets hope moggi is not a liar
 

Hængebøffer

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Jun 4, 2009
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I have a question.

If Moggi, is acquitted of any wrong doing, what happens then?
The only way to clear our name, as I see it, is through the civil court. But then bye bye italian football..
I quote:

"Juve obviously outraged at the mockery of the trials threatened to take the matter to Civil Courts (Real Court of Law, where the Law is properly applied).
But UEFA and FIFA forbid Government intervention in football and if Juve had taken the matter to Civil Courts, Serie A would have been put on a hold. All

Italian Clubs would have been banned from European competitions and the National team would have been banned from qualifying for Euro 2008. In other words Italian football would have come to a grinding halt.
Two hours before Juve were supposed to take the matter to the Civil Court, Juve surprisingly withdrew their appeal and "surprisingly" days later Juve's 17 point penalty were reduced to 9 points".
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Then will that not mean that he was innocent of any wrong doing thus Juve were innocent?
I am not sure. But he said that the proof of conspiracy is in the trials:
"it's demonstrated by the sentence recently delivered in Turin that has disclosed the existence of an alliance to see Juventus defeated.

The absolution that comes from the trial in Turin says a lot because the fact does not hold."

Which trials are he referring to and what sentences were made?
 

only-juve

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Jan 5, 2008
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Speaking to Radio Kiss Kiss, Moggi asked: “What is Calciopoli? Calciopoli is the refereeing mistakes, nothing more. There have always been mistakes.
Am not a fan of Conspiracy theories but i've always thought that Calciopoli simply was some referees mistakes going our way (thats the whole story). The media made a Huge deal about it and the FIGC had to do something to calm the public so they sacrificed the biggest club in the country (and the least protected).

Even today with all the decisions going to Inter i don't think that moratti has a hand in it but the referee's level in italy in general is pretty poor and they always favour the leading club. Even in england (with much better referee's there IMO) they are favouring man united almost always.

:beer:
 

AngelaL

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Aug 25, 2006
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"Juve obviously outraged at the mockery of the trials threatened to take the matter to Civil Courts (Real Court of Law, where the Law is properly applied).
But UEFA and FIFA forbid Government intervention in football and if Juve had taken the matter to Civil Courts, Serie A would have been put on a hold. All

Italian Clubs would have been banned from European competitions and the National team would have been banned from qualifying for Euro 2008. In other words Italian football would have come to a grinding halt.
Two hours before Juve were supposed to take the matter to the Civil Court, Juve surprisingly withdrew their appeal and "surprisingly" days later Juve's 17 point penalty were reduced to 9 points".
The original charges against Juve were about match fixing. Match fixing cases have been held in UK courts and no UK club or NT has been banned by UEFA or FIFA. I haven't heard of any other country having their teams threatened with a ban, when they have had match fixing scandals. Juve should have went ahead and taken it through the civil courts.
 

El Santo

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Nov 26, 2008
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The only way to clear our name, as I see it, is through the civil court. But then bye bye italian football..
I quote:

"Juve obviously outraged at the mockery of the trials threatened to take the matter to Civil Courts (Real Court of Law, where the Law is properly applied).
But UEFA and FIFA forbid Government intervention in football and if Juve had taken the matter to Civil Courts, Serie A would have been put on a hold. All

Italian Clubs would have been banned from European competitions and the National team would have been banned from qualifying for Euro 2008. In other words Italian football would have come to a grinding halt.
Two hours before Juve were supposed to take the matter to the Civil Court, Juve surprisingly withdrew their appeal and "surprisingly" days later Juve's 17 point penalty were reduced to 9 points".
That's right. I remember reading an article about this. But it wasn't Euro 2008, it was the 2006 WC. If Juve went to the courts, the Italian Federation would of taken out the Italy National team out of the tournament. So basically, Juventus took the blame to save Italian football.

they wont clear his name but our club should pursue the matter, get our scudetti back as well as some heavy compensation
Yes, most definitely. We need to get all that back, with interest.
 

cimenk

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Jul 23, 2008
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That's right. I remember reading an article about this. But it wasn't Euro 2008, it was the 2006 WC. If Juve went to the courts, the Italian Federation would of taken out the Italy National team out of the tournament. So basically, Juventus took the blame to save Italian football.

Yes, most definitely. We need to get all that back, with interest.
Then if Serie A put on hold and all the Italian teams banned and can't involve in any competition, it will kill all the club in Italy. They all won't get revenue and can go bankrupt for one year. Also it kill all the future of Italian football and there is no point winning the civil court for Juve when the Italian already dead. So i think that will lose-lose solution.

Then Juve took the blame for the bigger interest. I still believe we are not guilty after all
 

ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
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Am not a fan of Conspiracy theories but i've always thought that Calciopoli simply was some referees mistakes going our way (thats the whole story). The media made a Huge deal about it and the FIGC had to do something to calm the public so they sacrificed the biggest club in the country (and the least protected).

Even today with all the decisions going to Inter i don't think that moratti has a hand in it but the referee's level in italy in general is pretty poor and they always favour the leading club. Even in england (with much better referee's there IMO) they are favouring man united almost always.

:beer:
Actually it was about ref mistakes, but they weren't going JUST our way. I remember statistics run every season where they counted ref mistakes into the equation and had put standings. Most of the times out standings did not get negatively affected. In fact in some seasons we got better standings after corrections.
 
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if we win the case, if they pursue it we could ask for a ridiculous amount of compensation no?
don't expect such a reaction from our pawn board. control in montezomolo's hands. he hates moggi, why would he support him? one of moggi and montezemolo is lying, one of them betrayed us. if moggi clear his name, montezemolo will sink in the mud.
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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what happened in the trials he is referring to.. everything is in fucking italian i cant find any english reporting on it.
 

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