Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (38 Viewers)

[gsol]

Thank you.
I'll add one more point. In a rational situation the points lost by teams for errors would be spread out, sporadic, and balanced.

Instead the teams most penalized are Juventus, Roma, and Milan. Inter's closest rivals.

 

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[AngelaL]

Thank you.
I'll add one more point. In a rational situation the points lost by teams for errors would be spread out, sporadic, and balanced.

Instead the teams most penalized are Juventus, Roma, and Milan. Inter's closest rivals.

Whilst the most referee assisted club, went unpunished!

 

[Vinman]

I'll explain to you why it is not rational:

Step 1: There's a thing called Calciopoli.

Step 2: Calciopoli is a football scandal which involves numerous clubs who are accused of influencing referees to their favour.

Step 3: Said clubs get punished, Juventus gets relegated.



Now Step 4 in a rational world would be: Serie A is clean, refereeing errors happen every once in a while, but don't seem to favour any clubs in particular.

Step 4 in reality is this: Inter receive one 'aiutone' after another. There was a period in which they got an inexistant penalty every single game. And most of the time it came at a moment in which a goal was badly needed.

I gotta agree....

 

[Mark]

I have the feeling we'll reach 200 pages tomorrow.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Nah, we're already out of the way. They wouldn't want unnecessary negative attention, so now Roma is the only team left to get it.

 

[Pingo]

i'll say only this...What goes around, comes around

 

[Holdon]

I have the feeling we'll reach 200 pages tomorrow.

Probably, unless 'they' don't have a problem with us being in the CL.

 

[AngelaL]

i'll say only this...What goes around, comes around

...and I can't wait to see them suffer!

 

[denco]

Thank you.
I'll add one more point. In a rational situation the points lost by teams for errors would be spread out, sporadic, and balanced.

Instead the teams most penalized are Juventus, Roma, and Milan. Inter's closest rivals.

Roma have been heavily penalised this season? Do tell

You have told me to go fuck myself and called me gay but I have just realised that you are a paedophile.

You go to places where most of the guys are really youing like on here and facebook and preach your nonsense.

I saw JFk when i was really young too, all oliver stone's theories and how they all seemed to gel but after i got older I realised that all he was spinning were stories and now i cannot watch an Oliver Stone movie.

People are wrong when they call your supporters retard, they are not retarded they are just young and when they grow older then they would realise you have just spinning a yarn.

Who penalised Milan? How many times have Milan been allowed to get into championship race with extra time being afforded to them?

They have far too many over 30s and they have won far too much with little change in their squad over the years.

Anyone with half a brain would realise that these guys are not really motivated, they are multi cl winners, world cup winners and they refuse to freshen up the squad, have the same manager and how are they supposed to be motivated by playing the likes of Catania et al?

They come alive in Cl cos they are playing big boys.

Roma have a good squad of players but no strikers and no defensive midfileder, no to mention that Doni is crap in goal.

They give far too much in games for little reward. If they had world class striker and not just Vucinic they would be nearer Inter. It has nothing to do with referee bias.

They play great stuff but are relying on Totti and Mancini to score all the time and the goal has to be pretty.

Juventus have the best goalkeeper in the world and players like Dp, Trez and Iaquinta that can score and that is the only reason they are where they are. There is also the added motivation of being relegated for calciopoli so they have something to prove unlike Milan that seems to be happy with coming 4th

Inter have far and away the best squad in the league, they have a decent keeper, great defenders and strikers like Crespo, Cruz, Zlatan and Suazo that can score goals. They are just enjoying winning the league as they have not done so for years so they are motivated to take advantage of the situation they find themselves.

Nothing is happneing in this league that does not happen elsewhere but you preach to the young and convince them of what is not really there and when someone older challenges you, you retort to your childishness by saying stuff like come out of the closet.

Like Oliver stone keep connecting lbj with lee harvey oswald, jack ruby, clayton shaw and david farrer as its a very good story but lile JFk this thread is just fantasy and not reality.

Yeah yeah you are an Italian living in Toronto and all of that and you know everything about calciopoli and of cos the very young are impressed with you as its suits them to believe that more than their beloved juventus not being good enough.

You know Hi5 and Bebo is another place you should visit to preach your jargon, paedo

 

[Seven]

Denco,

you are most appreciated by everyone here. But in this debate you (and gsol as well for that matter) have been too radical. Furthermore I don't think you understand Italian society that well. It's very unlikely for Serie A to be clean, especially in Italy.

 

[gsol]

Denco Fuck!

Can't you make your stupid point in a few lines?

I'm not opposed to writing or reading a lot if it's meaninful but you just ramble on about bullshit. Do you think if it's long enough that we wnon't realize that you haven't really said anything at all?


Roma have lost 7-9 points according to analysts.

My nonsense is real. People love it too because they had no access to it. You can call it nonsense all you want because you have taken it personally but you couldn’t argue with the evidence.

JFK? Stick to the topic.

My supporters? There it is. You really have taken it all personally. It’s me and my minions against you and yours (not that you have any). Again you are wrong. I don’t have supporters. I communicate with Juventus supporters. Many of which are middle aged.

Who penalized Milan? Palermo, Inter. Do you not watch at all?

“They have far too many over 30s and they have won far too much with little change in their squad over the years.”
Agreed. So when Kaka gets taken down inside the 18 we shouldn’t give Milan a penalty. Because Cafu and Ambrosini are old.

“Roma have a good squad of players but no strikers and no defensive midfileder, no to mention that Doni is crap in goal.”
So…let’s invent a foul to send Mexes off. You know after looking at it your way…the league is fair this year! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha What are all those thousands of people (neutrals included) talking about? Denco, stick to the EPL.

“Inter have far and away the best squad”
So let’s invent penalties for them…because they are the best.

“Nothing is happening in this league that does not happen elsewhere”
Find me a league where the standings have been altered o this extent. It’s not me by the way. I just post a link to what the analysts (who are older than me) reported.

Denco, not that I give a rat’s ass what you think but the “young” as you say are at youngest 18ish, who have demonstrated far more intelligence than you. Many (most) are professionals. Graduated and often they themselves are parents. It really bothers you that someone listened to me while you were ridiculed.

Once again you posted 2 pages of nothing. I’m going to stop reading your shit if you can’t find a point and get to it. Posting long comments is fine if you are going somewhere. Your verbal masturbation is getting pretty old.

 

[gsol]

Seven I'm not radical. I just pointed out the truth. It sounds radical because we would have never been capable of even thinking up let alone carrying out something like Farsopoli.

 

[denco]

Denco,

you are most appreciated by everyone here. But in this debate you (and gsol as well for that matter) have been to radical. Furthermore I don't think you understand Italian society that well. It's very unlikely for Serie A to be clean, especially in Italy.

If the league is not clean what is the point in watching it?

I can accept that teams are being favoured but to say because its Italy then the results is rigged from the off is just a nonsense.

I dont watch athletics anymore because I believe they all take drugs so whats the point?

So what you are saying it that serieA forever has been rigged but according to gsol Juventus are totally innocent.

He talks all sorts of nonsense with his selective memories citing 1 incident out of 20 something games even saying an 18 year old with a kid is displaying intelligence.

What does it matter if someone is a graduate or not at 18 they are still naive and impressionable.

Again if you guys believe that the league is rigged by Inter why are you still watching it and coming on here to spout anger?

If its truly rigged then we should all go home and forget about it as its a farce.

Of course in Italy things happen that you cannot readily explain but I dont want anybody to beat me over the head with this nonsense about Italian culture and that we should just believe anything.

Inter have been favoured but not to the extent that you guys are making out.

I am supposed to believe some stupid stats just because their job is to create controversy?

How many shouted when Cicinho scored the winner aagainst Fiorentina last week when Totti was in an offside position and the ball was coming to him?

The fact of the matter is that Roma can still win the scudetto if they play their cards right

 

[Snoop]

If the league is not clean what is the point in watching it?

I can accept that teams are being favoured but to say because its Italy then the results is rigged from the off is just a nonsense.

Sadly it is the case sometimes (not as much as everyone exaggerating here), some matches are fixed and some of them are suspicious, we still watch it because of the love and loyalty to this club. I will still watch them even if the repeat what they did the past years, or even if we get relegated to Serie C2..

 

[gsol]

"If the league is not clean what is the point in watching it?"

Many are starting to ask themselves that question. The answer varies for everyone. Me? I’d follow my team to hell. In the end I hope they are good enough and allowed to come in the top 4 so that they can compete for a legitimate title soon enough.

"I can accept that teams are being favoured but to say because its Italy then the results is rigged from the off is just a nonsense."

Except of course when Juve were winning...then we were guilty as sin right? Your contradictions are becoming abundant.

"I dont watch athletics anymore because I believe they all take drugs so whats the point?"

Every athlete takes drugs at some point. Be realistic.

One incident I cited? One? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. My memory is selective? Nonesense? Denco I've posted soooooooo much here that you are yet to read. You're only here because you are not big enough to admit that you are wrong. The league has always had shady incidents and influences but in my lifetime it has never been this skewed.

"What does it matter if someone is a graduate or not at 18 they are still naive and impressionable."

So are all the authors, TV producers, journalists, and film makers who have written and stated precisely what I have. You keep on trying to down play it because in your immense IGNORANCE you haven’t understood yet that we are not the minority. How old is Mughini? You likely need to google him.

No one asked you to believe in just "anything". Frankly believe what you want. However when certain things are irrefutable you refuse to believe it anyway and that's what killed your position.

"Inter have been favoured but not to the extent that you guys are making out."

"We guys" didn't come out with the numbers Denco. Analysts with no allegiance to one club over another did. If their job was to create controversy they would have been doing so 10 years ago. Strange that the standings are only being reported as falsified now.

 

[Marc]

Every time Denco has posted something here, Gsol in the next post completely outclassed him and it's going on like this for 100 pages. Frankly, I don't know why you always return, Denco? You are enjoying getting beaten in the arguments? Like I said once, stick to pure football discussion as this topic takes a lot of credit away from you. This is coming from a guy who admires your view of football, by the way. So, don't take this in wrong way.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Moggi: Mexes Sending off Against Inter Was Shameful

Former Juventus transfer guru Luciano Moggi has hit out at Inter Milan once again, and in particular the supposed favoritism they are receiving from referees this season.

Moggi was of course suspended from football for five years for his alleged role in the Calciopoli crisis in 2006.

The 70-year-old is a known enemy of Inter, having all along maintained that Calciopoli was the product of a conspiracy involving Massimo Moratti, Tronchetti Provera, Guido Rossi, and even possibly some of Juventus’ current management.

"I see the mistakes that the referees make in favour of Inter and I wonder, 'are these not the same that my Juventus were claimed to have enjoyed’?” he roared.

“Why is nobody saying anything? Against Roma, for example, the sending off of Mexes was shameful. Burdisso deserved to be red carded long before.”

Mexes received his marching orders in last week’s 1-1 draw at San Siro following two yellow cards in quick succession.

The second yellow for a foul on Hernan Crespo particularly upset Roma, who felt that the Argentine had been crafty and had fooled the referee. The Giallorossi cut Inter’s lead at the top of Serie A to just six points at the weekend.

goal.com

 

[denco]

My case in point look at who 1 of your followers is

A guy that struggles to make any kind of sense apart from saying that denco is being outclassed. If this guy is above 18 then I am very very sorry.

@Snoop no matter how you love a club if the results are fixed from the beginning and you know it then there is no point in following that sport or whetever it may be.

@Gsol I never said Juventus fixed matches, i don;t think they did but you always distort the trith to suit you.

Influencing referees is not the same as fixing as with fixing you know the outcome.
Influencing, you can still lose even if you ask for favours to be done for your team like Moggi was accused of.

You keep equating what Moggi is alleged to have done to teams getting preferential treatment from referees as if its the same thing.

Asking for favourable referees is still cheating, its not match fixing but it is still cheating. Would that ever register with you?

Being caught with multiple phone cards in the name of giving them to referees is improper and i dont care what spin you try to put on it.

From 91 to 2006 Juventus and Milan have been by far the most favoured teams in Italy, that in itself is not a crime but when stories start coming out as to why and how they have been favoured, that is when respect is lost especially to Juventus.

I did not criticise Moggi's era because juventus were favoured as that is par of the course, I criticised when stories start coming out and unlike you, proof is irrelevant when you start filling in the gaps.

I did not and do not for 1 minute think that Moggi decided from the beginning of the season that Juventus are to win by x amount of points as that is fixing but I do believe that he did way too many shady things to ignore the signals

 

[Snoop]

Every time Denco has posted something here, Gsol in the next post completely outclassed him and it's going on like this for 100 pages. Frankly, I don't know why you always return, Denco? You are enjoying getting beaten in the arguments? Like I said once, stick to pure football discussion as this topic takes a lot of credit away from you. This is coming from a guy who admires your view of football, by the way. So, don't take this in wrong way.

ffs get yourself a character, stop kissing everyone's ass, write your own opinion no matter how dumb it is. how could someone be this imbecile, oh god..

My case in point look at who 1 of your followers is

A guy that struggles to make any kind of sense apart from saying that denco is being outclassed. If this guy is above 18 then I am very very sorry.

@Snoop no matter how you love a club if the results are fixed from the beginning and you know it then there is no point in following that sport or whetever it may be.

it has no point, because it is love. you don't choose to love or not, you just love no matter what it is.

now the thread's topic is directing to romance

 

[Marc]

My case in point look at who 1 of your followers is

A guy that struggles to make any kind of sense apart from saying that denco is being outclassed. If this guy is above 18 then I am very very sorry.

My case in point is let's see how many of them think you are the God in this thread. I think percentage would be less than 5.

All you seem to do is rant on about like you think you know everything forgetting that you don't have the slittest clue about what was going on in Calciopoli. While the others have done research and are well informed, you completely ignore the facts and present your own opinion which you expect to be the ultimate true.

I am surprised you are so naive when you obviously are a full grown man with experience.

Look yourself at the mirror and ask yourself who is the 18 year-old here.