Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (46 Viewers)

[Salvo]

what i dont understand is why would he need to do that. i mean we had the best team in italy, great players,we were winning and werent even favoured by the refs. i beleive it was a conspiracy. every 1 was jealous because we had the two stars of excellence and were near three. i beleive teams and higher people wanted to screw us over. i mean why else did we get the harshest penalty when other teams were involved also?

 

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[Cronios]

Maybe because we were also robbed of a scudetto or two...

(Everybody was involved, it was a balance)

 

[Salvo]

man that hurt.....

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

The latest from Moratti :
Lui ha già fatto marcia indietro, quindi non vado a commentare quello che è già stato smentito da lui. È proprio una cosa molto antipatica. Non puoi pensare che gente che conosci poi te la trovi coinvolta costantemente... Quando dicevo che c'è ancora molto da fare mi riferivo a quello che è la realtà che stiamo vedendo. Bisogna smetterla". Così il patron dell'Inter, Massimo Moratti, parla della seconda parte dell'inchiesta di Calciopoli alla luce delle nuove intercettazioni, riferendosi anche alle dichiarazioni di Berlusconi che aveva parlato di montatura. "Una persona è libera di telefonare - ha concluso - Ma quel 5 maggio del 2002 (il riferimento è alla stagione in cui l'Inter perse lo scudetto all'ultima giornata a beneficio della Juventus) siamo stati notevolmente danneggiati. Comunque, facciamo finta di niente. Se mi manca uno scudetto? Me ne manca più di uno".

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Shortly : Moratti doesn't like to comment on what Berlusconi said (but he still does) and he said that when he was talking how there was still much to do regarding Calciopoli he was talking about what we hear now (the new interceptions).
Then Moratti replies to Berlusconi " A person is free to make phone calls of course, but on May 5th 2002 we have been remarkably damaged. However, we let it go.
Do i lack one scudetto because of what was happening pre-Calciopoli ? ( he is replying to Berlusconi's statement that Milan were robbed of a scudetto or two because of what was happening pre-Calciopoli and during Calciopoli). I lack (i was robbed of..) more than one scudetto !!!"

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Primo_Piano/2007/12_Dicembre/19/moratti.shtml

P.S: I can't wait to hear what Turk has to say about this

I remember May 2002

fataldo the little bitch cried while we won our 26th Scudetto.then I saw cuntface on tv,he looks like nailed on chair,it must hurt

remarkable damage

 

[Seven]

Funny, the only titles that piece of shit celebrated so far in his career were robbed. Pre-Calciopoli he was robbed of nothing. He lost constantly because he was an idiot and kept on ruining his squad by buying and firing 1.2 refs a year and changing his squad completely every transfer season. He's a bitch. On the 5th of May 2002 his team got hammered by Lazio and Juve beat Udinese fairly. If he wasn't such a sack of shit he'd be able to admit that.

Moratti should be persecuted. He is spreading damaging populistic bullshit based on absolutely nothing.

 

[Alen]

I became immune to Calciopoli talks and on attacks on Juve where we're labelled as cheaters.
But this man still knows how to cause a reaction and to make me angry. He was given a scudetto on a plate and he still says that he lacks more than one scudetto.

 

[pavelnedved]

i say lazio robbed our scudetto in 2000. I want it back !!

 

[Snoop]

I became immune to Calciopoli talks and on attacks on Juve where we're labelled as cheaters.
But this man still knows how to cause a reaction and to make me angry. He was given a scudetto on a plate and he still says that he lacks more than one scudetto.

we robbed like 25 Scudetti of Inter, if not more.. :flag:

 

[Alen]

There are few things i don't understand.

Lets say we cheated !

1. When did that start ?
2. When did it end ?
3. Did we cheat , then stopped cheating and then started cheating again ?

Because, if you look at our record in Moggi time and if you hear all the accusations from rival fans, and even club directors, you get the picture that we were cheating only when we were winning scudetti.


1. Season 1997/98
Inter claim we stole this scudetto from them and some fans here, who wrote in this topic, agree with that.
4 rounds before then end of serie A, we're leading the standings, we play Inter at home and we have a 1:0 lead.
Then the ref didn't give a clear penalty on Ronaldo but gave one to Juve later on (missed by Del Piero) and that was enough for everyone to conclude that we stole the scudetto.
Ronaldo or whoever took the penalty could have missed it and even if they scored it the result would have still been 1:1 and we would've still had the lead in the standings, but no-one is bothered with that.
One bad call against our rivals and one good call in our favor and the season is fixed and we're cheaters.

2. But then we somehow stopped cheating.
In 1998/99 we finished 7th in serie A. After the regular season finished we even played a play-off match for the 6th place that led to UEFA cup and we lost it. We missed out on champions league and we were forced to play Intertoto cup, starting from early July, which gave us absolutely no time for rest.
Why didn't we cheat and why did we let some other team to take the scudetto ?

In 1999/00 we had a very comfortable lead. We had 6 more points than Lazio 6 rounds before the end and we had 5 points more than them 3 rounds before the end.
And before the last round we have 2 points advantage. And we lose that and lose the scudetto.
Why a known cheater like Moggi lets this happen ?

In 2000/01 Capello's Roma was the best team in Italy and deserved the scudetto. They won it with 3 points more than us.
Why did we let them win the scudetto ? We had a Juve-Roma match few rounds before the end. Why didn't we fix it with the refs to win it but we let them score 2 late goals and make a come-back. Why didn't the ref give a penalty for us when it was 2:2 ?

We didn't cheat in these 3 years. We started cheating the next year, when we won a scudetto. Inter lost in the last round, we won. It's clear proof that we cheated
We cheated in 2002/03 also.
We didn't cheat in 2003/04.
We cheated again in 2005 and 2006.

This is how it looks. But is this what happened...we cheated, we stopped, we cheated again ? Or we never stopped cheating ? Or maybe, just maybe, we never cheated ?

 

[pavelnedved]

we only cheated when we won . everybody saw that we were the best team the last years

whatsoever they have no proof of us cheating in the mid-90s but still we won that one scudetto in '98 and so we cheated that year


moratti is such a populist, his inter fans are probably no smarter than that

 

[gsol]

the 98 Ronaldo incident was not a penalty. I read the FIFA rulebook. Two players running into each other face to face isn't a foul. Actually in that game Juve should have complained when West didn't get a red (or yellow) card for kicking Del Piero in the teeth.

Bottom line ADICONSUM oncluded that the record setting year for most altered matches due to referee errors was the 2003-2004 season won by Milan with Juve in 3rd. Until last yer of course when the record was smashed with 41.3% of games altered (team that benefitted most was Inter). Inter "won" with Juve in B.

So who were the real cheaters?

ADICONSUM also confirmed that every Juventus scudetto in the Moggi era was legitimate after correcting the standings for referee errors. If anything Juve lost one to Lazio wrongfully.

Moratti brushes all that aside and makes his propagandist claims to the journalists that work for his VP and we get pissed off. When he finally dies (hopefully of AIDS) I will drink for days in celebration and make a point of celebrating that day annually.

 

[Snoop]

that Iuliano waiting like a wall in the penalty box and Ronaldo throwing himself at him was nothing to do with penalty. the whole press back then called us cheaters, I even remember years later everyone here was suspicious about that Iuliano move. it was Ronaldo who hit Iuliano and not the other way.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

i actually hope that there are no more scandals that wil result in rlegations, even for the scum of inter. if we keep having scandals in serie a, whether juve are guilty or not, it will obviously have a negative affect on us in many aspects. i just want our two titles back, some sort of financial compensation, moggi's ban lifted, an apology to juve and moggi in all media in italy that also highlights our innocence and victimisation, and the removal of and possible trials ofall the key Calciopoli figures, including Moratti.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

that Iuliano waiting like a wall in the penalty box and Ronaldo throwing himself at him was nothing to do with penalty. the whole press back then called us cheaters, I even remember years later everyone here was suspicious about that Iuliano move. it was Ronaldo who hit Iuliano and not the other way.

are there any videos of that? i would really like to see for myself.

 

[king Ale]

the 98 Ronaldo incident was not a penalty. I read the FIFA rulebook. Two players running into each other face to face isn't a foul. Actually in that game Juve should have complained when West didn't get a red (or yellow) card for kicking Del Piero in the teeth.

Bottom line ADICONSUM oncluded that the record setting year for most altered matches due to referee errors was the 2003-2004 season won by Milan with Juve in 3rd. Until last yer of course when the record was smashed with 41.3% of games altered (team that benefitted most was Inter). Inter "won" with Juve in B.

So who were the real cheaters?

ADICONSUM also confirmed that every Juventus scudetto in the Moggi era was legitimate after correcting the standings for referee errors. If anything Juve lost one to Lazio wrongfully.

Moratti brushes all that aside and makes his propagandist claims to the journalists that work for his VP and we get pissed off. When he finally dies (hopefully of AIDS) I will drink for days in celebration and make a point of celebrating that day annually.

Very well said. You're putting the facts in the right place is stunning. As Alen said, every thing seems very debatable and has lots of paradoxes in it. I dun mind what others keep saying here in this forum and I don't mind if they call me a blind biased 10 years old fan, but I actually think that the whole story was a conspiracy.

 

[Marc]

the 98 Ronaldo incident was not a penalty. I read the FIFA rulebook. Two players running into each other face to face isn't a foul. Actually in that game Juve should have complained when West didn't get a red (or yellow) card for kicking Del Piero in the teeth.

Bottom line ADICONSUM oncluded that the record setting year for most altered matches due to referee errors was the 2003-2004 season won by Milan with Juve in 3rd. Until last yer of course when the record was smashed with 41.3% of games altered (team that benefitted most was Inter). Inter "won" with Juve in B.

So who were the real cheaters?

ADICONSUM also confirmed that every Juventus scudetto in the Moggi era was legitimate after correcting the standings for referee errors. If anything Juve lost one to Lazio wrongfully.

Moratti brushes all that aside and makes his propagandist claims to the journalists that work for his VP and we get pissed off. When he finally dies (hopefully of AIDS) I will drink for days in celebration and make a point of celebrating that day annually.

Will that be the "official Fuck you Inter day" ?

 

[king Ale]

that Iuliano waiting like a wall in the penalty box and Ronaldo throwing himself at him was nothing to do with penalty. the whole press back then called us cheaters, I even remember years later everyone here was suspicious about that Iuliano move. it was Ronaldo who hit Iuliano and not the other way.

You're being sarcastic Snoop? Even if Iuliano's move was a foul, sure that was neither the first time one ref made a bad call, nor the last. And how it's clear that Inter could beat us if they scored that penalty kick?

 

[Marc]

are there any videos of that? i would really like to see for myself.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qBGR4VjE99Q&mode=related&search=

 

[Alen]

that Iuliano waiting like a wall in the penalty box and Ronaldo throwing himself at him was nothing to do with penalty. the whole press back then called us cheaters, I even remember years later everyone here was suspicious about that Iuliano move. it was Ronaldo who hit Iuliano and not the other way.

I don't know man. It looked like a penalty to me. gsol may be right because i'm not very familiar with FIFA rules, but Ronaldo did try to make a move to the right while Iuliano never really waited like a wall. He ran directly into Ronaldo.

I think it was a penalty, just like that foul on Del Piero later in the match was also a clear penalty. I think Inter rightfully objected back then for the penalty not given but it was one single mistake. Even if they got a penalty they could have missed it like DP did and if they scored it the result would have been 1:1. They make it sound like they would have won the match for sure and they would have won serie A for sure if that penalty was given.
I'm sure that if someone goes through all Inter matches from that season he'll find a situation where a clear penalty wasn't given to Inter's opponents.

They claim the 1998 scudetto to be stolen from them because of one single mistake by the refs. If it's a WC final match i agree that one mistake can change the outcome, but when there are 34 rounds to play if you're the best team 1 mistake can not be the reason why you failed to win the scudetto.

 

[Alen]

One more think that i believe is important.

If 1/3 of the Italians are Juventini, 1/3 are Milan or Inter fans and 1/3 are fans of the other team, then logically 1/3 of the refs are Juve fans, right ? And logically we can get a Juve fan to officiate every third match we play.
Wanted or not, we'll get a Juventino for a ref from time to time.
Even if we played/play by the rules, how can we stop a Juventino ref to give a 50/50 call in our favor ? And where is our fault if that happens ?
No matter how professional the referee is, if he is a Juve fan he'll always give the 50/50 calls in our favor and if he's a Milanista or Interista or Romanista he'll do the opposite.
And since 95% of the Italians are fans of these clubs we can either get a Juve fan or a Juve rival fan for a main ref in our matches.

I want to say that even if Moggi was an angel, even if people in FIGC and Collina play fair and even if everything is perfect and played by the rules in Italian football teams like Juve, Milan and Inter will get the help from the refs and people will still blame us for being cheaters because some ref's feelings for Juve made him give a 50/50 penalty, free kick, offside in our favor.