Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (51 Viewers)

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Awesomeness. I knew you were smart, not just a smart ass. :D

What can we do in the european courts? What are the laws surrounds sports teams going to a civil court?
Does it matter since Juve have shown no interest in pursuing things?

They could probably go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, like Chelsea did over Mutu.

In Britain there is some sort of agreement, I think, that clubs wouldn't take legal action against their FA.

Don't know if that's the case in Italy.
 

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Does it matter since Juve have shown no interest in pursuing things?

They could probably go to the Court of Arbitration for Sport, like Chelsea did over Mutu.

In Britain there is some sort of agreement, I think, that clubs wouldn't take legal action against their FA.

Don't know if that's the case in Italy.
Hmm, thanks...good stuff. Now I know who to ask:D
 
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    Why are they refusing new evidence? How CAN they refuse it? Isn't that some kind of breach of conduct/law?

    I don't see how Agnelli can't care. Ugh.
    Because it’s the FIGC. Any judge can refute evidence. They should have some grounds to do it and in this case the grounds are that it would force them into the precarious position of shooting themselves in the foot.
     
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    Awesomeness. I knew you were smart, not just a smart ass. :D

    What can we do in the european courts? What are the laws surrounds sports teams going to a civil court?
    The team itself not wanting to go there. Stepping on the toes of the federation that has common business interests through companies that not only sponsor the league and Inter but also Juve now (i.e. Telecom, Gazzetta). You guys only think in terms of team pride. These think in euros.
     

    Lo-Pan

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    'Among the many subjects touched upon, Agnelli returned to one that has never been omitted throughout his first year as president: Calciopoli. Following the petition submitted to FIGC fourteen months ago and still awaiting a response, the club spoke during the course of the ongoing trial at the penal court of Naples, where they exert the civil authority. “Lawyer Giuseppe Vitiello’s words - concluded Agnelli - have been absolutely clear, both from the legal and factual points of view. In brief, the charges are unfounded. Whether behaviours liable to prosecution should arise, they would be personally ascribed to Moggi. However, we believe that those facts don’t exist.”
    (juventus.com)

    Surely the fact that a petition was made to thge FIGC suggests that the management does care, or was that move purely meant to appease the fans in some way, when behind the scenes, money is talking and saying 'we will give them a show, but nothing will change'...
     

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    Because it’s the FIGC. Any judge can refute evidence. They should have some grounds to do it and in this case the grounds are that it would force them into the precarious position of shooting themselves in the foot.
    Yes, but also not taking this seriously could also shoot themselves in the foot. All we need is someone with some balls to take it to the next level if that is the route they wish to take.
     
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    'Among the many subjects touched upon, Agnelli returned to one that has never been omitted throughout his first year as president: Calciopoli. Following the petition submitted to FIGC fourteen months ago and still awaiting a response, the club spoke during the course of the ongoing trial at the penal court of Naples, where they exert the civil authority. “Lawyer Giuseppe Vitiello’s words - concluded Agnelli - have been absolutely clear, both from the legal and factual points of view. In brief, the charges are unfounded. Whether behaviours liable to prosecution should arise, they would be personally ascribed to Moggi. However, we believe that those facts don’t exist.”
    (juventus.com)

    Surely the fact that a petition was made to thge FIGC suggests that the management does care, or was that move purely meant to appease the fans in some way, when behind the scenes, money is talking and saying 'we will give them a show, but nothing will change'...
    You nailed it.

    So far they asked for the revoking of the title that Inter received...that is all they have done in 5 years. Why instead wouldn’t he have petitioned to reopen the whole case? Appeal to higher courts? The team's managers don't care.
     
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    Yes, but also not taking this seriously could also shoot themselves in the foot. All we need is someone with some balls to take it to the next level if that is the route they wish to take.
    Lucky for the FIGC they know we don't have anyone with balls.
     

    Elvin

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    Shit man, it took 2 Scudetti and 5 years of failure so they don't call us cheaters anymore. Probably the only bright side (if u can call it that) to this whole bullshit.
     
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    I don't read that Inter mentioned with any big name, their mercato is so quite, whose here think it is related to some penalties they will face this year.

    It is strange, do not deny it
     

    Mark

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    inter threatening to go to higher courts if they take it off. :lol:

    at least they're willing to go there unlike us but who the fuck are they to merit that scudetto when their calls are free to the public to hear.
     

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    inter threatening to go to higher courts if they take it off. :lol:

    at least they're willing to go there unlike us but who the fuck are they to merit that scudetto when their calls are free to the public to hear.
    Being willing to threaten and being willing to do are very different things.
     

    JBF

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    Federal Councillors unconvinced. The 2006 championship will remain at Inter?
    According to the Corriere dello Sport, the Football Federation does not seem to be too convinced by what has emerged from the process of Naples. Therefore, the "shield of cardboard" may remain on the bulletin board of the Inter
    06/30/2011 17:20 by Matthew Culotta Article read 5826 times

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    The Football Federation, after essersela taken very slowly, is finally ready to decide on the withdrawal on the Juventus Scudetto 2006 Inter. The club is waiting impatiently in Corso Galileo Ferraris the verdict by the Federation, in Durini dominates, however, very quiet atmosphere. Too quiet, because the decision of the Federation could overturn completely the history of Italian football, or it could leave everything as it is now. It could change the fate of Juventus and Inter. But the serenity of the club's, the optimism subsided Massimo Moratti and the now usual flammatico pace at which the Football Federation is preparing to face whenever matters that have to do with Inter, discomfort enough to throw in the hearts of Juventus fans .

    In the summer of 2006, the Federation did a real company: with an extraordinary speed found guilty and issued a condemnation. In just two weeks, stuff that would not shame the whole Italian judicial system. Four years later, he discovers that the Federation did not find anything but a goat espriatorio and that the ruling today might be considered a joke. As if he enjoyed the Football Federation to destroy the history of one of the most glorious and most clubs have taken up the Italian flag in world football. As if suddenly, in Corso Galileo Ferraris, appeared out of nowhere Guido Rossi and cried: "Treat!" and everyone burst into laughter. So it must have moved the FIGC, because otherwise what happened in 2006 would make no sense. The more time passes the more we realize that in 2006 the Federation arranged the process more ridiculous and absurd than the sentence in the history of Italian trials and judgments.

    The world had just ended and fans of Italian football demanded justice, Uefa and Joseph Blatter threatened to exclude Italian clubs from international cup if he had not found guilty, the start of the season was at hand. This was the situation after the scandal broke Calciopoli. The Football Federation, therefore, thought it best to forget about witnesses and get to the bottom of the matter, he just simply destroy Juventus, while the others if they would get away with few caresses and with the recommendation of "do not do this again, eh! ". Juventus to two league titles were revoked, that of 2004/2005, won thanks to the "Moggi system", and that of 2005/2006, but won on the field since there are no intercepts about this championship, but was reassigned to the championship "honest" on duty ... squdra a coincidence. Inter.

    Four years later, courtroom 216 of the court of Naples, it turns out that even the "victims" were behaving exactly like the "executioners". The defense of Luciano Moggi , in fact, found some eavesdropping "strange" Calciopoli unheard during the process of demonstrating the thesis of "Così fan tutte." Snatching from the clutches of more than 170,000 dust interception, the lawyers of the former Juventus general manager have put their backs to the wall the Federation. At this point, everyone is guilty or innocent, or everyone.

    Admit you were wrong, did not take into account those important interceptions and that would lead to a different decision, it would be like pulling a brick on his head. Admitting that he had destroyed Juventus, he had damaged his image on a global scale, that I have taken the opportunity to compete at the highest levels and to increase bacehca trophies, having made sure that his best players and managers if they go, that I have taken the best years in short, is tantamount to suicide. How could the FIGC pay all damages suffered by Juventus? Not to mention UEFA and FIFA, which would begin to demand an explanation from the Italian Federation and may even penalize it severely. On the other hand, admit that the "victims" were actually complicit in the alleged "Moggi system", discredit the work of the Federation and Justice sport. Snubbing interceptions so important and that they could change the direction of the process 2006, wiretapping that had they not been discovered by Moggi's lawyers, would not allow the natural course of justice and therefore only part of the guilty would be punished, while the other would have easily done away with. is unacceptable. Not to mention the fact that removing the Scudetto to Inter in 2006, would bring two inevitable consequences: the opening of a new survey of Calciopoli and the war that the club most likely to declare Massimo Moratti Federation. Inter, should be deprived of title 2006, would be ready to take action in any court of the planet. This, added to the scandal Scommessopoli, would inevitably lead to a postponement of the championship.

    In practice, the FIGC is besieged by scandals and processes. In any case, if the Federation was expressed in favor of Juventus dell'esposto would be forced to admit their faults. This would imply a revolution in the way the Federation, not to mention the credibility in the eyes of the world federal apparatus would fall to pieces.

    Maybe that's why the Corriere dello Sport Football Federation is convinced that the 2006 will leave the Scudetto to Inter. For the sports daily has embarrassed the Roman FIGC. Federal Councillors are asked to answer a simple question: Given the new issues raised in the process of Naples, Guido Rossi, then commissioner of the Federation, and the "wise men" who were joined by still proceeded to give Inter the Scudetto? Rossi, the Corriere dello Sport, is the true protagonist of the whole affair. His choice is now considered hasty, basically an error. The fear of the Federal Council is to add error to error, after five years. Therefore, many federal and influential advisers consider that emerged later from Naples who is not equivalent to that which emerged in 2006. Others point out that the only thing certain at the moment, at least in the sports justice, is the culpability of leaders Juventus. Considerations will count a lot of Stefano Palazzi , which strangely to what was thought believes the responsibilities of Inter, but the impression is that there will be a strong emphasis on the faults Nerazzurri.

    Things, in short, will remain exactly as they are now.
     

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