Exactly this. I couldn't care what happens to Inter, seeing Juventus this season has been a really horrible experience. We need to improve.
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And that justifies fucking the league yet again?
No, the best is yet to come. If Inter is demoted to Serie B and Italian teams continue their habit of chocking in Europe we could well end up behind France in the ranking and also not to mention the financial impact that many world class inter players departure will have on Serie A and the T.V rights.
Oh and not to forget the fans, after all Merda has the 3rd biggest fan base in Italy IIRC.
No, the best is yet to come. If Inter is demoted to Serie B and Italian teams continue their habit of chocking in Europe we could well end up behind France in the ranking and also not to mention the financial impact that many world class inter players departure will have on Serie A and the T.V rights.
Oh and not to forget the fans, after all Merda has the 3rd biggest fan base in Italy IIRC.
The Cazzata Dello Sport is trying to reassure its simple minded readers that all is well in Interland. They are trying to “correct incorrect notions” by summarizing the case. They are saying that other people talking to designers won’t change the reasons that the CAF relegated Juve which are:
Reggina – Juve Paparesta incident (Article 1 violation)
Juventus – Lazio Holiday lunch where potential influence was imposed on Bergamo in the week prior to the game in the presence of many others including other directors and families (no violation)
Juve – Bologna Knowing the names of the assistants 30 minutes prior to their publication (Article 1 violation)
Fiorentina – Bologna Interfering with De Santis (error eventually retracted in Federal Court)
Juventus – Udinese Moggi comparing his Grid to Bergamo’s (Article 1 violation)
The moronic paper does three things that make me laugh.
1) It identified that the technical reasons behind the original relegation were not Article 6 violations but Article 1s and omits the big gap between the initial verdicts and today which saw the Paparesta incident resolved, the Lazio and Udinese game resolved etc. along with all the civil trials that showed Moggi’s innocence in related trials. It obviously neglected to mention that these Article 1 violations were allowed to be cumulated and punished in excess of Article 1 parameters due to the “exclusivity” excuse conjured up by the CAF.
2) The way its written justifies relegating Inter. These violations do not justify relegation but they present them as though they were so why wouldn’t Moratti, Facchetti and Bergamo’s dinner be the same? Why wouldn’t Facchetti telling Bergamo to include Collina in the Grid be the same? Why wouldn’t Facchetti knowing who the referees were the night prior their publication be the same as Moggi knowing 30 minutes before they are published?
3) Then they act as though it couldn’t have any bearing on anything and that Moggi’s lawyers are doing it for nothing. Are we supposed to believe that two journalists are more legally savvy than a team of lawyers? They are also basically dismissing the significance of today’s testimony and the fact that Auricchio was exposed for evidence tampering (again). He could be indicted as a result. If and when Moggi takes him to court seeking punitive damages he may well have to reveal who he was doing the tampering for. If he names names then who knows how many people at Telecom, Inter and the FIGC will wind up charged.
Reggina – Juve Paparesta incident (Article 1 violation)
Juventus – Lazio Holiday lunch where potential influence was imposed on Bergamo in the week prior to the game in the presence of many others including other directors and families (no violation)
Juve – Bologna Knowing the names of the assistants 30 minutes prior to their publication (Article 1 violation)
Fiorentina – Bologna Interfering with De Santis (error eventually retracted in Federal Court)
Juventus – Udinese Moggi comparing his Grid to Bergamo’s (Article 1 violation)
The moronic paper does three things that make me laugh.
1) It identified that the technical reasons behind the original relegation were not Article 6 violations but Article 1s and omits the big gap between the initial verdicts and today which saw the Paparesta incident resolved, the Lazio and Udinese game resolved etc. along with all the civil trials that showed Moggi’s innocence in related trials. It obviously neglected to mention that these Article 1 violations were allowed to be cumulated and punished in excess of Article 1 parameters due to the “exclusivity” excuse conjured up by the CAF.
2) The way its written justifies relegating Inter. These violations do not justify relegation but they present them as though they were so why wouldn’t Moratti, Facchetti and Bergamo’s dinner be the same? Why wouldn’t Facchetti telling Bergamo to include Collina in the Grid be the same? Why wouldn’t Facchetti knowing who the referees were the night prior their publication be the same as Moggi knowing 30 minutes before they are published?
3) Then they act as though it couldn’t have any bearing on anything and that Moggi’s lawyers are doing it for nothing. Are we supposed to believe that two journalists are more legally savvy than a team of lawyers? They are also basically dismissing the significance of today’s testimony and the fact that Auricchio was exposed for evidence tampering (again). He could be indicted as a result. If and when Moggi takes him to court seeking punitive damages he may well have to reveal who he was doing the tampering for. If he names names then who knows how many people at Telecom, Inter and the FIGC will wind up charged.
I would much rather have the punitive damages filling the coffers of their transfer budget, to be honest.
I couldn't care less where that money comes from.
The only way, in my eyes, that this wrong can be righted, is allowing Juventus the true opprtunity to rebuild from these ashes, and for better or worse, that shit costs money.
I couldn't care less where that money comes from.
The only way, in my eyes, that this wrong can be righted, is allowing Juventus the true opprtunity to rebuild from these ashes, and for better or worse, that shit costs money.
Here is how I would figure it out.
2 years worth of CL fees and TV money lost.
1 years worth of average road gate receipts lost by playing in such shitholes in Serie B, for the most part.
Take the amount for players sold during that era, back out the amount that other teams sold said players for, and give Juve 50% of the net difference.
2 years worth of CL fees and TV money lost.
1 years worth of average road gate receipts lost by playing in such shitholes in Serie B, for the most part.
Take the amount for players sold during that era, back out the amount that other teams sold said players for, and give Juve 50% of the net difference.
Most intriguing part.
But what seems sooo fishy about this whole situatuion is the fact that this missing evidence has been lying around since 2006. How come it was not destroyed when they realised Moggi was going to contest the 2006 ruling if the system is as corrupt as it appreas to be?
Something just doesn't quite add up there. I guess what I would like to know is who sacntioned the phone taps in the first place? Was it the FIGC? and if so then why did thier board resign before the '06 trial?
But what seems sooo fishy about this whole situatuion is the fact that this missing evidence has been lying around since 2006. How come it was not destroyed when they realised Moggi was going to contest the 2006 ruling if the system is as corrupt as it appreas to be?
Something just doesn't quite add up there. I guess what I would like to know is who sacntioned the phone taps in the first place? Was it the FIGC? and if so then why did thier board resign before the '06 trial?
I care, I've been waiting for 3 years now for Juve to return to former glory and being the team everyone feared both in Europe and Italy. Getting Serie A fucked up will only make us more fucked up too which consequently means we fans will also be fucked up since we aint gonna have any glories soon.
That is my point at least, but hell yea, we could bring Merda to the ground and burn them yet if burning them means us getting suffocated by the smoke, Fuck It, I don't want such justice.
That is my point at least, but hell yea, we could bring Merda to the ground and burn them yet if burning them means us getting suffocated by the smoke, Fuck It, I don't want such justice.
The long term reputation of a league with institutionalized corruption is more damaging that that of a league with less CL places. Coefficient points can be earned back in the near future, whereas the prominence of a league where the rules are not universally applied is extremely damaging to attracting new fans, never mind keeping existing ones.
This idea that we must protect Inter for "the good of serie a" is a ludicrous idea. Hoping Italian teams do well in Europe is 1 thing, but in light of all that has come out in the past few weeks, hoping for Inter's safety is quite another.
This idea that we must protect Inter for "the good of serie a" is a ludicrous idea. Hoping Italian teams do well in Europe is 1 thing, but in light of all that has come out in the past few weeks, hoping for Inter's safety is quite another.
