Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (25 Viewers)

[KB824]

And at the end of the day, Turk, if it does come out that all of the teams involved were innocent, and this was all some fabricated scheme, that would absolutely destroy Serie A.

UEFA would throw the hammer down on that league so fast, that it would take ten years beofre they would even think about allowing an Italian team in European Competitions

 

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[Snoop]

How was this guaranteed?
Did Moratti know that Milan will have a shitty transfer policy, that Berlusconi will stop putting money in the team, that Milan will become so shitty?
Inter started the season with 8 pts advantage over Milan, but that was all. The only advantage over Milan.
So how did Moratti know that ,even with Juve out, Milan won't keep beating the shit out of Inter, as they did in the previous 17 years before 2006?

I don't know about these, but I am sure it was Moratti who put Ranieri in Juve. Ranieri is his man, Molinaro is a suspect too.

 

[KB824]

Guys who doubt us is the reason nothing has happened yet. We're supposed to be united, it's us against them, that's how it should be.
But often in this forum you see people taking the wrong side... not the side of reason but THE WRONG SIDE.
This is what's disturbing to me personally.



and yes, YOUR ARE NOT FUCKIN REAL FANS, cut the bullshit please...

Oh, FUCK You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I've been a fan since 1976, so go fuck yourself.

 

[blondu]

I believe in one thing, Juventus is the club I love. It's the club that I save money to travel to Italy watch them play. It's the club that makes me want to watch football. It's the club that I am simply a fan of.

And to be honest, anything else doesn't really matter. I have no hate whatsoever, I don't believe in conspiracy theories nor I do believe in plans from others to destroy the club I love.

Does this answer your question?

It does answer my question, i don't contest you not being a Juventus fan but hearing that you don't care or don't have an opinion about what happened confuses me. It was the most paintfull thing in juve's history...we've been put in dirt, and just hearing "serie b" gives me the chicken skin. I can't accept, i can't close my eyes when i hear that i donno how many reasons we're added up so that a verdict that doesn't exist in any law came up to put us in b. I really can't make an own strong opinion myself, and believe me i've heard turk or gsol opinion or others...It is so painfull because i don't know the truth. I console myself on the fact that we are in normality now...we're in serie a/ucl...we are a world class team, the spirit of Juventus (the old guard, tifosi and some kind men like cobolo gigli) remained.

 

[Alen]

and yes, YOUR ARE NOT FUCKIN REAL FANS, cut the bullshit please...

Real fans love the team no matter what.
Real fans support the team and not just one single player.
Real fans support the team legends and don't talk shit about club legends like Trezeguet.

Since we all know that the moment DP retires you won't give a shit about Juve, I can kindly ask you to shut the fuck up and play with your dolls, girl.

 

[Elvin]

Real fans love the team no matter what.
Real fans support the team and not just one single player.
Real fans support the team legends and don't talk shit about club legends like Trezeguet.

Since we all know that the moment DP retires you won't give a shit about Juve, I can kindly ask you to shut the fuck up and play with your dolls, girl.

Ban yourself.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

How was this guaranteed?
Did Moratti know that Milan will have a shitty transfer policy, that Berlusconi will stop putting money in the team, that Milan will become so shitty?
Inter started the season with 8 pts advantage over Milan, but that was all. The only advantage over Milan.
So how did Moratti know that ,even with Juve out, Milan won't keep beating the shit out of Inter, as they did in the previous 17 years before 2006?

i have never considered berlusconi as a great president but milan's current situation smells bad. they had money to create a whole new team to challenge with inter but instead of rejuvenating team, he choosed to gain time with likes of ronaldinho and beckham. even if he doesn't know a shit about football he can't be that fool. don't come up with money issue. they have money. freaking dida still earns 4m per year. ronaldinho, favalli, 4 goalkeepers etc. They don't look like they are saving money for future. and if berluska is running out of money he would sell the club instead of getting insulted by fans constantly.

i think there is gentlemen's agreement between two shady club owners of serie a. don't ask me what is berluska's gain because i don't know

maybe because of getting off cheaply and ending up with cl in 2006.

 

[blondu]

A potential scudetto for Inter? Even if winning the scudetto was guaranteed, which wasn't, was something like that worthy of such a huge scandal where all the calcio lost millions, lost its reputation, lost quality etc.
Was all this done just so Inter will win a virtual reward (it's not like Moratti won billions or millions with Inter finishing first. No, his team only won a flag on their jersey).

i don't agree alen. Look at inter now....they are juventus and we are inter, it's the truth..look at the football they are playing, look at the player they took from us, look at the money, the sponsorship..they are in top of italy. And not to forget the fact that they are now the cleanest team..."vergine del onesti" .They really got a huge advantage by "sending" (if) Juve in B imo.

 

[JBF]

Ban yourself.

He isn't a mod anymore.

 

[Cronios]

That's what never made sense to me. People are talking about a huge conspiracy with most of the big guns in Italy involved in it.
For such a conspiracy, there must be something really big as a reward. Usually, it's oil, billions of dollars etc.
But what was the reward in this case?

A potential scudetto for Inter? Even if winning the scudetto was guaranteed, which wasn't, was something like that worthy of such a huge scandal where all the calcio lost millions, lost its reputation, lost quality etc.
Was all this done just so Inter will win a virtual reward (it's not like Moratti won billions or millions with Inter finishing first. No, his team only won a flag on their jersey).

Not just a championship, it sets up the new age scenery for the next decade at least!
The balance of powers have been re-set in order to serve better some new bosses.
And yes, they were ruthless enough to sacrifice anything it takes to bring us down.
And as history has shown, they were able to adjust the consequences and focus the attack on us alone...

 

[blondu]

turk don't make the stupid thing of pity milan....they can get to win the ucl just like in 2007, out of nothing.

 

[Tommy]

IMO we need a poll here

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Fiorentina losing 15 points, having 2 home matches behind closed doors, thereby losing revenue (and quite a bit since all of their matches sell out) and being kicked out of the Champions League hurt them.

Lazio losing out on the Uefa Cup and having 2 matches played behind closed doors hurt them.

Please don't assume that those punishments didn't hurt those teams, given their financial situations and standings.

you can't compare these with what we have lost. we have lost our future my friend, if you still don't realize please think about it. if there was no calciopoli we would be talking about Mascheranos and Lahms instead of Tiagos and Molinaros.

And this "most influental guy" allowed his team to be involved in the scandal just so Moratti will confuse public opinion?

He is most influental but not only influental guy. moratti had opportunity back then.

And at the end of the day, Turk, if it does come out that all of the teams involved were innocent, and this was all some fabricated scheme, that would absolutely destroy Serie A.

UEFA would throw the hammer down on that league so fast, that it would take ten years beofre they would even think about allowing an Italian team in European Competitions

only the responsibles. TIM and name of moratti family would sink.

 

[Cronios]

However i agree that there is smth suspicious behind Milan's current situation.
And its not only because of the loss of ref influence...

 

[Elvin]

He isn't a mod anymore.

Good. Cause his last post was bloody retarded. Yea, all DP fans will stop supporting Juve once he retires, Alen. Bullet proof logic. Brava...

 

[KB824]

Not just a championship, it sets up the new age scenery for the next decade at least!
The balance of powers have been re-set in order to serve better some new bosses.
And yes, they were ruthless enough to sacrifice anything it takes to bring us down.
And as history has shown, they were able to adjust the consequences and focus the attack on us alone...

So how exactly does docking Reggina 11 points and banning their president for two years shift the balance of power?

 

[KB824]

you can't compare these with what we have lost. we have lost our future my friend, if you still don't realize please think about it. if there was no calciopoli we would be talking about Mascheranos and Lahms instead of Tiagos and Molinaros.



only the responsibles. TIM and name of moratti family would sink.

Yes, you can compare them when you are looking at their relative statures compared to the punishment.

Fiorentina and Lazio are not perennial CL and Serie A contenders. For them to reach European Competitions, while I wouldn't say that it is an anamoly, is not something of a regular occurence. So for a Fiorentina to be kicked out of a Champions League, I would say is a huge punishment for them

 

[KB824]

However i agree that there is smth suspicious behind Milan's current situation.
And its not only because of the loss of ref influence...

what are your thoughts???

 

[Alen]

Good. Cause his last post was bloody retarded. Yea, all DP fans will stop supporting Juve once he retires, Alen. Bullet proof logic. Brava...

Not all, but you will.
Unless we buy some handsome, good looking player. That might bring you back.

And it's bravo for me, brava for you.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Yes, you can compare them when you are looking at their relative statures compared to the punishment.

Fiorentina and Lazio are not perennial CL and Serie A contenders. For them to reach European Competitions, while I wouldn't say that it is an anamoly, is not something of a regular occurence. So for a Fiorentina to be kicked out of a Champions League, I would say is a huge punishment for them

Now Fiorentina and Lazio are what they used to be but we are not. Four years passed, we are still far from it.