Calciopoli or Morattopoli.. inter fake orgasm (41 Viewers)

[Snoop]

Gsol's theory is " Juve is and always was innocent, Juve never cheated, never fixed games, Juve is pure clean", anyone who agree with that is a retard.

We did cheat, we were guilty, but we paid it more than the other guilty clubs, and we are still paying, and that is unfair, this is what probably the most "Anti-Gsol" (like you call it) group thought from the beginning and still do.

Reggina and Napoli matches were the ugliest parts of this new Calciopoli, yes I don't deny it, I don't recall matches like these, maybe that Inter-Juve one, Ronaldo vs Iuliano incident, which everything happened in minutes. Thou I am still not sure if iuliano incident was a clear penalty, that's just my opinion anyway.

 

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[Quetzalcoatl]

I don't think he said that. He said that the whole of calcio is dirty, but Juve was suspected of match-fixing when there was no actual proof.

Oh, and nice avatar.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

We didn't cheat.We weren't guilty.I am not retard.

 

[Snoop]

Oh, and nice avatar.

you didn't see the original one, will be ready soon, trying to resizing it

 

[Red]

We did cheat, we were guilty, but we paid it more than the other guilty clubs, and we are still paying, and that is unfair, this is what probably the most "Anti-Gsol" (like you call it) group thought from the beginning and still do.

That is what I thought to start with.

However, the more I read, the more I think we did little or nothing wrong.

 

[gsol]

I hate it when people say we cheated and then come up with dick. Vsnoop between the doping trials and Calciopoli this team has been in court for a decade and we were found not guilty of both.

Why do you just assume that we cheated? Some urban legends and favorable calls? Come on.

Ya calls went our way pre Calciopoli but the went a lot of ways including against us. Analysts always declared equilibrium and now they are revising standings. What we are seeing now is the WWE of football.

Everyone in Italy would try and rub elbows with the right people either to get ahead or just avoid being fucked. It's called ass kissing. That is a seriously far cry from match fixing and frankly so long as everyone was doing it (and Calciopoli proved just that) then why punish anyone let alone one club.

I agree the game needed help in Italy but what happened here was like treating an infection with more bacteria.

What I'm confused about is that after the Nedved penalty (ignored) yesterday and the offside goal today (Zanetti) no one is saying shit in the press...hmmm

 

[Bozi]

Gsol's theory is " Juve is and always was innocent, Juve never cheated, never fixed games, Juve is pure clean", anyone who agree with that is a retard.

We did cheat, we were guilty, but we paid it more than the other guilty clubs, and we are still paying, and that is unfair, this is what probably the most "Anti-Gsol" (like you call it) group thought from the beginning and still do.

Reggina and Napoli matches were the ugliest parts of this new Calciopoli, yes I don't deny it, I don't recall matches like these, maybe that Inter-Juve one, Ronaldo vs Iuliano incident, which everything happened in minutes. Thou I am still not sure if iuliano incident was a clear penalty, that's just my opinion anyway.

i am pretty sure we were not innocent but its true we are being badly handicapped, but tbh EVERY club taht poses a threat to inter are being shafted.

good post snoopz

We didn't cheat.We weren't guilty.I am not retard.

yes we did, we all did. we are as guilty as the rest were. tahts for the health board to decide

 

[gsol]

Bozi, Juventus had DIGOS (drug investigators) and magistrates from Turin crawling up their ass for 8 years leading up to Farsopoli. Honestly, even if they wanted to cheat I don't think they could have.

But if they would have, at least one of those 100,000 wiretps or audits would have given us at least one example of "cheating".

 

[Bozi]

gsol you keep jumping on me but seriously you cannot hink we were completely innocent? i have said time and time again that i think we are unjustly treated and were unfairly punished but i never for a second thought we were anything but complicit in a wider scandal

 

[Seven]

That is what I thought to start with.

However, the more I read, the more I think we did little or nothing wrong.

So do I. Just because the outcome is oh so bizarre.

 

[Pingo]

yehhhh everything is clean now, the calls against Juve and calls for Inter are "just" human (refs) mistakes...BLA, BLA, BLA...

 

[gsol]

Bozi I don't mean to jump on you but outside of being 1/20th of a system I don't see what Juventus did wrong. There were no fixed matches. Contrary to what some people think that is not up for debate.

The only thing Moggi ever did was keep a good relationship with the top dogs of the federation to avoid unjust treatment from the powers that be. He would lobby for Carraro and Galliani during elections simply to not oppose them the way the Della Valle's of Fiorentina did. They wound up getting killed nearly all season by referees until they apologized to Galliani. There was a phone call to Carraro confirming that they would no longer be a problem. Cazzola of Bologna also opposed the Milan boys and got the shaft. The shaft wasn't just about referees it was about TV rights. Milan had the ability to inflict a lot.

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Believe it or not Milan was the bully of Serie A and everyone else tried kissing their ass including Moggi who was very close to working for them.

It may be ugly but Moggi did nothing illegal. That's how Italy works. They kiss whoever's ass sits in the highest chair. Trust me...now they are kissing Moratti's.

Secco and Montezemolo already kissed his ass with the sponsorships and acceptance of weekly sodomy.
On that note, in Calciopoli 2 Inter will stay in the CL and Juve will go back to B based on precedence.

 

[Azzurri7]

Gsol's theory is " Juve is and always was innocent, Juve never cheated, never fixed games, Juve is pure clean", anyone who agree with that is a retard.

Thats your opinion snoop not a fact.

Till we're proven guilty and till we're shown evidence that we did cheat, I'm not going to accuse my team of cheating since we have no evidence.

And I don't think I'm retard.

 

[Alen]

What if there is some investigation in near future and they won't find evidence that Inter are cheating this season ?
What if they find them not guilty ?

 

[Azzurri7]

What if there is some investigation in near future and they won't find evidence that Inter are cheating this season ?
What if they find them not guilty ?

Why do we always have to make things complicated?

1- We were not found guilty and no evidence has been shown that we're guilty of all this. We were thrown in Serie B without any reason convincing at least us Juventus fans of this.

2- There could be no evidence against Inter....no problem, throw them where we were thrown last year. No big deal. Though we didn't have such a calls in our favor like they're having.

Really simple.

 

[gsol]

Will they be finding out that Moratti and his boyfriend infact don't sit on Telecom's board and that Telecom doesn't finance the FIGC through sponsorships, and that the FIGC doesn't pay referee salaries?

 

[Alen]

2- There could be no evidence against Inter....no problem, throw them where we were thrown last year. No big deal. Though we didn't have such a calls in our favor like they're having.

Really simple.

Yup, this would be fair.
But will we accept that they weren't guilty because evidence that proves otherwise wasn't found ?

We all watched Juve in past years. We all know that we were getting a lot more favourable calls compared to the calls against us.
I'm not saying we were cheating, but can't we accept that the refs did favour us ? It doesn't have to mean that they favoured us because they were told so or because they were bought. But can we accept that they favoured us ?

I'm asking all these questions because i got involved in a lot of discussions and fights lately with Milan and Inter fans. And Milan fans , even though they all accept Inter are being shamelessly favoured by the refs, still think that it's not even close to what was happening while Moggi was at Juve.
As a Juventino i don't agree with them, but they are still the most neutral here. They hate both us and Inter (Inter even more) and they still think that Juve were being more favoured than Inter are now.

And if we weren't cheating but it was the refs that favoured us, can't we say the same thing about Inter ?
Why aren't we giving them a benefit of the doubt ?

Why is it that we didn't cheat because there is no evidence for that but Inter are cheating even though there is no evidence for that either (not yet, at least) ?

 

[Mark]

I still remain with the idea that we didn't cheat but that Moggi had a lot of power and may have bent the rules with his transfer tactics. I don't believe in fixing matches. I look at the players we had in 04-05 and it's not even comparable to the team we have right now who would have 16pts+ and leader of the Serie A without the "bad" calls. I also look at the WC final and see that many players played/play with Juve. For me, we won fair and square those scudetti and support the guys fighting for them in court.

As for Inter being implicated in Calciopoli1, I do believe it just because of the ties with Guido Rossi and Telecom. That's only what I think and teh only way it could be proven is if someone talks. Someone almost did but found him swimming with the fishes. True story. The reason according to the police was suicide. Too bad the guy suffered from vertigo and couldn't have gone on a bridge(I think) but that's when conspiracy theories come in.

As for a calciopoli2, I don't believe it will happen. They are throwing sand at the fire it's not even funny. They don't want another calciopoli and since we can't tap Inter nothing will happen. Too bad since what I'm witnessing this year with all the favoritism Inter is getting leads me to believe something is fishy. We never saw this in the past with Juve.

 

[gsol]

That guys name was Adamo Bove. They are investigating his death as we speak.

It's not just about evidence. It's numbers too. Ya we did have more calls favor than fuck us but the numbers always showed that the other clubs at the top benefitted as much (if not MORE in Milan's case). That's why those Milan fans say Juve was worse. Rather than acknowledge the Milan implications they continue to deflect blame.

In the end the seasons of the Moggi era showed equilibrium between top clubs including Inter but that the differences that existed even between top and bottom clubs were hardly worth noting.

Now the equilibrium is shot and the teams at the top should be revised according to analysts.

 

[Snoop]

I hate it when people say we cheated and then come up with dick. Vsnoop between the doping trials and Calciopoli this team has been in court for a decade and we were found not guilty of both.

Your are "coming with dick" when you say Inter are cheating, you only need eyes to see these things, just close your eyes and think about it, remember the match against Parma, at the last minutes Crespo protesting the referee making sign of money counting with his finger, while Malesani running into the field yelling to the referee, Bologna matches, twice? Inter one, if you think about it, you will remember more.. I don't need to read 100 000 line text to let someone wash my brain to understand what is going on..

Why do you just assume that we cheated? Some urban legends and favorable calls? Come on.

some? some????

i am pretty sure we were not innocent but its true we are being badly handicapped, but tbh EVERY club taht poses a threat to inter are being shafted.

Exactly! The heavy punishment to us, the light "punishment" to others is confusing people's minds here, they are all focusing on that, yes we paid it more than we supposed to, and we are still paying, and Inter is cheating, still, this doesn't make us innocent, people!

Thats your opinion snoop not a fact.

Till we're proven guilty and till we're shown evidence that we did cheat, I'm not going to accuse my team of cheating since we have no evidence.

And I don't think I'm retard.

But you are and the rest saying the same thing about Inter, and accepting it as a fact, why the double standard?? are they innocent too?

We all watched Juve in past years. We all know that we were getting a lot more favourable calls compared to the calls against us.
I'm not saying we were cheating, but can't we accept that the refs did favour us ? It doesn't have to mean that they favoured us because they were told so or because they were bought. But can we accept that they favoured us ?

Say it proudly and loud! WE CHEATED! No referee give gifts to others for nothing. Either they were bought and told to do so, or Juve is their favorite team, the second doesn't make sense thou, that only happens in third world countries..