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Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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since the difference between tradition and religion has been highlighted by fred, yamem, and ze. i just need to mention that in saudi where i've lived with my parents for my entire life u r not forced to wear a burqaa if u dont want too ( non-saudi residents living in the kingdom). my mum was un-vieled for the 18 years i've lived there but had to cover her hair when she goes out but not her face. burqa in saudi is part of there tradition.

as for hijab i do agree with not wearing it at a young age bec quite honestly its such a big commitment that needs a lot of responsibility and maturity to come with it. nearly all the girls i know who wore hijab at a young age went on to take it off bec it just did'nt go hand in hand with how they wanted to live there lives or how they wanted to dress or even how they wanted to be precieved by others. thats why i think women should wait until they r mature enough to recognize the responsibility that comes with it.

as for choosing between a girl with a hijab and a girl with out, well i speak for my self here. i would go with a girl with out a hijab 9 times out of ten ( not bec i hate it but i just feel comfortable with an un-vieled girl). should my wife later on decide to wear it i would'nt mind or object bec just like prayer its sth personal between herself and god there fore i cant force it on her or force it off her.
 

Bisco

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I don't think there are too many of them.

And I also think that there are several women forced to wear Hijab but publicly they pretend that they chose this and that they're satisfied.
this is not entirely true nor can i shoot it down, there are alot of girls who chose to wear hijab and there are others who are forced. i think forcing it on someone will eventually lead to them removing it when the reason for them being forced to wear it dissappears.

its bec of it being forced ( i,e u wear it but dont live with its code if u may) the validity of hijab or in other words the image of a veiled girl has deteriorated in the eyes of the public.
 

Bisco

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Nov 21, 2005
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That too.
Its a growing trend now in Egypt for girls to wear open clothes under the covered ones. They stop in the nearest place where there is a bathroom and they take the veil and closed clothes off. They put them on again before they go home.

The cases i've seen where mostly of women working at cafe's and clothes stores. Their areas of residence and families wouldnt be happy about it so they just have to pretend in front of them.

I also see cases of girls wearing veils out of choice. My cousin wore it when she was 14 without her crazy father forcing it on her. I dont think he'd be happy if she took it off though.

Its frowned upon to take off the veil if you used to wear one. My mom did that and my father went nuts over it a long time ago. She passed away a couple of years later so i dunno whether it would still bother him or not if she was alive.

i'm sorry for yr loss.

as for the public frowning on women or girls who decide to remove hijab well thats true. i know 5 girls who removed it this year and they were faced with a lot of immature opposition which then fades off. one of these girls is a very good friend of mine who i've known for the past 7 years and when she told me she removed it i told her not to let any one pass judgement at her and if they did she should ignore them and not try to explain bec its sth strictly personal!!


it should be noted though: the reason for these 5 girls removing the hijab are strictly reasons to do with not being able to honor the commitement that comes with wearing the head veil and not bec they dont agree with it or its code. which in my opinion is different than them not recognizing its importance.

the veil is not an evil thing at all, but it has to be done the right way. a girl cant wear a veil and wear a mini skirt for instance!!! and yes i've seen this in cairo and it was a horrible scene :D this is an example.


sadly the veil has become part of tradition and not part of a religious way of life and hence a lot of girls decide to get veiled for the wrong reasons.
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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i'm sorry for yr loss.

as for the public frowning on women or girls who decide to remove hijab well thats true. i know 5 girls who removed it this year and they were faced with a lot of immature opposition which then fades off. one of these girls is a very good friend of mine who i've known for the past 7 years and when she told me she removed it i told her not to let any one pass judgement at her and if they did she should ignore them and not try to explain bec its sth strictly personal!!


it should be noted though: the reason for these 5 girls removing the hijab are strictly reasons to do with not being able to honor the commitement that comes with wearing the head veil and not bec they dont agree with it or its code. which in my opinion is different than them not recognizing its importance.

the veil is not an evil thing at all, but it has to be done the right way. a girl cant wear a veil and wear a mini skirt for instance!!! and yes i've seen this in cairo and it was a horrible scene :D this is an example.


sadly the veil has become part of tradition and not part of a religious way of life and hence a lot of girls decide to get veiled for the wrong reasons.
:agree: especially that you did not link Hijab with morals.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Hijab is being said to be for good of women, to protect them. Even if it is true and is really for good of women, you're still never going to make anyone do something which is supposedly good for him/herself. Muslims are smoking but no one cares if it is good for them or not.

Having hijab is a must for women in Iran. It is a law. Even though I don't like it and I would have taken it off if I had been allowed to I have never had a problem with having it because it was always a part of my costume since I was nine. When I was a believer, I used to practice my religion precisely, step by step but even at that time I had a hard time understanding the purpose of having hijab. Women have to cover their bodies (minus their faces and their hands up to their wrists) when they are doing their prayers even when there is no man at the place. Rami could confirm how much we discussed it when he was a regular member here :D
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Also if i did marry a woman that doesn't wear a Hijab, i would still try to convince her to wear one. Of course i would want her to be convinced and not wear it just to please me, as that would not serve any purpose imo.
Really now. You know, it makes me remember a time many many moons ago when I said that women wear them because the men make them, which you protested vehemently. And now you're saying you would try to convince your woman to wear one, how interesting.

You're absolutely right, it has nothing to do with the men. It's the women who want to wear them!
 
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    Many women are willingly wearing hijab Martin (not burqa but the kind of hijab which is described in Qoran).
    Excluding the underage girls and excluding women that were forced by families/parents but pretend they did it out of a personal belief, I wouldn't say many women.
     

    Lion

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    Jan 24, 2007
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    as for choosing between a girl with a hijab and a girl with out, well i speak for my self here. i would go with a girl with out a hijab 9 times out of ten ( not bec i hate it but i just feel comfortable with an un-vieled girl). should my wife later on decide to wear it i would'nt mind or object bec just like prayer its sth personal between herself and god there fore i cant force it on her or force it off her.
    shouldn't the proper way of choosing a girl be how hot she is and her personality? if a girl is good looking, isn't a bitch, has some intelligence, and very importantly knows her place is in the kitchen making you a sandwich, do you think you'll care about something like hijab
     

    Byrone

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    Dec 19, 2005
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    since the difference between tradition and religion has been highlighted by fred, yamem, and ze. i just need to mention that in saudi where i've lived with my parents for my entire life u r not forced to wear a burqaa if u dont want too ( non-saudi residents living in the kingdom). my mum was un-vieled for the 18 years i've lived there but had to cover her hair when she goes out but not her face. burqa in saudi is part of there tradition.

    as for hijab i do agree with not wearing it at a young age bec quite honestly its such a big commitment that needs a lot of responsibility and maturity to come with it. nearly all the girls i know who wore hijab at a young age went on to take it off bec it just did'nt go hand in hand with how they wanted to live there lives or how they wanted to dress or even how they wanted to be precieved by others. thats why i think women should wait until they r mature enough to recognize the responsibility that comes with it.

    as for choosing between a girl with a hijab and a girl with out, well i speak for my self here. i would go with a girl with out a hijab 9 times out of ten ( not bec i hate it but i just feel comfortable with an un-vieled girl). should my wife later on decide to wear it i would'nt mind or object bec just like prayer its sth personal between herself and god there fore i cant force it on her or force it off her.
    How does wearing a hijab bring a woman closer to god?
     
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