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DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,630
Pjaca is young and has potential; if things don't pan out for him here, we can sell him, potentially at a profit.

Howedes hasn't done anything for us, and doesn't deserve to stay. He isn't getting any younger and isn't worth the sacrifice. We don't need him with Chiellini, Benatia, Barza, Caldara, and Rugani here.
But we need Pjaca?

I'm not a bit surprised if we trade him in at the end of the season (€15m + Höwedes, or something similar), he looks bang average and doesn't stand out one bit at Schalke. To me a fit and in form Höwedes (he still exists somewhere) is still of more use than Pjaca, and potentially above Barza (not getting younger either) and Rugani quality wise.
 

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zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
whats Howedeses injury status anyway? if hes fit for the finish of the season, i expect him to make the WC squad. Low loves to use players until they die and Germanys defense doesent look that good after Hummels-Boateng
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
64,630
whats Howedeses injury status anyway? if hes fit for the finish of the season, i expect him to make the WC squad. Low loves to use players until they die and Germanys defense doesent look that good after Hummels-Boateng
Does he? He's finishing off players left and right if they get injured at the wrong moment, Neuer with his injury would be one of them 100%, would he be one or two years older.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Does he? He's finishing off players left and right if they get injured at the wrong moment, Neuer with his injury would be one of them 100%, would he be one or two years older.
it seems to me he has a group of players he always calls if not injured, no matter the form or if someone better (younger) is emmerging. took him the injury of Badstuber to start using Hummels, Reus and Draxler for example got introduced very late after their breakout, Podolski and Gomez played even when they were in Turkey etc
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,175
But we need Pjaca?

I'm not a bit surprised if we trade him in at the end of the season (€15m + Höwedes, or something similar), he looks bang average and doesn't stand out one bit at Schalke. To me a fit and in form Höwedes (he still exists somewhere) is still of more use than Pjaca, and potentially above Barza (not getting younger either) and Rugani quality wise.
We don't need Pjaca, but he's young, is still our player, and deserves a chance. We know what we get with Howedes, if he is ever fit that is, and given that we have 5 other options @ CB, this deal makes no sense. Now tell me to trade Pjaca (and a bundle of cash obviously) for someone like Martial, for example, and I'd be ok with that.
 

Adrian

Senior Member
Jan 31, 2003
6,872
We needed pjaca right based on injuries we have had in recent times. Im keen to see what he can do. He is a player that can play multiple roles in that final third. If we lost a forward i would bring him in as the replacement. Did read some opinions the other week on him playing a CF role and being back up to higuain.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,320
Regarding Pjaca - I dont think he has what it takes to be a starting player in our club - I mean look at his movements and all his attributes together - Take away his dribbling skills and he has absolutely nothing..
HOWEVER he is not useless as he can be backup and could come on when someone not performing and we need that dribbling guy to beat a defense.
Above all I see Pjaca as a business opportunity as we bought him for around 20M and he is definitely the type of guy we can sell for 50M.. so business wise it was very good that we got him and he could generate a good sum of money..

As for next year
I predict we get SMS and other non WC players while we lose A.Sando and Asamoah (A.Sandro will basically fund the SMS move)
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Players out: Barzagli, Lichteiner, Marchisio (not my will but he is done for max), Sturaro, Mandzukic, Khedira, one from Sandro or Asamoah
Players In:
Attack: Pjaca, a young fast forward to deputise for Higuain
Midfield: Mandragora, Kovacic/Can, Top Midfielder
Defense: Caldara, Spinazzola, Top RB

full team:

Forwards: Higuain, Dybala, Bernardeschi, Costa, Pjaca, Cuadrado, , Young CF.
Midfielders: Pjanic, Matuidi, Betancur, Mandragora, Can/Kovacic, Top Midfielder.
Defense: Chiello, Benatia, Rugani, Caldara, SPinazzola, Asa/Sandro, Mattia Dsiglio, Top RB
GK: WOjek, Buffon.
 

Catenaccio

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2002
3,363
The most important thing this summer is that we don't lose an influential player. By that I mean, Dybala, Higuain, Pjanic, Chiellini for instance. Barzagli & Buffon may retire.

Sandro has had a somewhat dissapointing season but I still think he should be kept.

I haven't really thought about objectives but I think as long as we keep our stars, I would want to see a key addition in defence, midfield and attack. Caldara should come in and I would get a quality right back. We need a quality midfielder and perhaps a fast striker.

Don't think we need a revolution. Just continue to build on the current core.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
What do you think about my suggestions?
I think i maintained the core of the team, while phasing out some of the obvious choices.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
If we want money to keep building we gotta let buffon go too. Has a large salary we can use elsewhere

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Or get him on a lower salary for another year
 

Pirlo's Beard

Junkie Joe Joyce
Oct 2, 2013
11,410
-------------------------------Szcz---------------------------
Bellerin-------Caldara--------------Benatia-------Spinazzola
---------SMS--------------Pjanic------------Jorginho----------
Berna----------------------Cavani--------------------Costa


easily affordable with the likes of Sandro - Dybala gone


I want the disgusting hugs and smiles attitude gone so Buffon retires. Barzagli gone. If Chiellini stays he's the Serie A guy. Not for late stage CL


Bench


Cuadrado, Pjaca, Kean (And or journeyman Serie A striker), MDS, Asamoah/Darmian, Matuidi, Bentancur, Can.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,175
:howler: :rofl: At that defense. Weakening our defense and attack to strengthen the midfield :baus: :tup:

Selling both Dybala and Sandro :touched: :heart:

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Players out: Barzagli, Lichteiner, Marchisio (not my will but he is done for max), Sturaro, Mandzukic, Khedira, one from Sandro or Asamoah
Players In:
Attack: Pjaca, a young fast forward to deputise for Higuain
Midfield: Mandragora, Kovacic/Can, Top Midfielder
Defense: Caldara, Spinazzola, Top RB

full team:

Forwards: Higuain, Dybala, Bernardeschi, Costa, Pjaca, Cuadrado, , Young CF.
Midfielders: Pjanic, Matuidi, Betancur, Mandragora, Can/Kovacic, Top Midfielder.
Defense: Chiello, Benatia, Rugani, Caldara, SPinazzola, Asa/Sandro, Mattia Dsiglio, Top RB
GK: WOjek, Buffon.
I like that, but it will require a sizable investment.
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,642
Is Kovacic even realistic. He seems more linked with Milan clubs and im not sure we can compete with their asian money without selling anyone before. And its still just Kovacic. Hardly a difference maker in CL knockouts.
 

tosh_rose

Senior Member
Aug 21, 2010
1,465
I dont believe all that overhaul talk, it`s a massive exageration after ONE game/one bad result. We shouldnt and we wont release too many players and also bring in just as many new faces, first - because it`s stupid, second - because we`re not in 2010/2011/2012 anymore and third - because we dont need to.

Retiring or not, Gigi is having his last season as a #1, starting next campaign Woj is the man in goal, period. If it is Gigi or Marchetti for 2nd choice, or Gigi and whoever else for 2nd choice, it is simple - Gigi! If he does retire, then look for a free and experienced option, also keep Pinsoglio.

Barzagli, Licht, Asamoa... Two of them will possibly leave on free transfer, my guess is Stephan and Kwadwo, and if Andrea decides not to retire and stay for another season, he will sign a 1y contract. I wish he does decides to stay one more year, accepting the role of a last choice CB and being very active during training sessions, he is a professor of football and a master at defending, he can teach those kids a thing or two. A possible job at Allegri`s staff also comes to mind, Max already confessed he offered Gattusso an option to retire and join his staff while at Milan.
Howedes stays, Howedes goes... whatever the management decides, it`s clear that we wont pay the money agreed with Schalke as he`s with only 1 appearance so far this season, he cannot be judged, a free loan for another year or ship back to ze germans, if given a second chance and is injury free, I bet he would be motivated like hell to give his best and repay the faith, given in him. If we decide against it, wish him good luck in his next team.
I dont think Alex Sandro will leave. His performance dropped from last season, from labelled second best LB in world football after Marcelo to being third best in Brazil squad and probably missing the world cup. Also dont see a top club being really after him, Real, Barca, Bayern... nope, Chelsea got LB, other english clubs that are said to be after him, its just paper talk. The brits will focus their attention to local kids, the one from Fulham, the next Bale, and the one from Celtic, Thierney or whatever his name is, one of them is going to Man Utd, the other one we`ll see. PSG may be an option, but they will be all over the market, their new manager already has a list of players, for sure. Sandro will leave only if he spesificly rejects new contract offer and decides to be sold, if not - he`ll stay here. DeSciglio also is going nowhere.

Our midfield needs an upgrade, clear as a day. Dont see Pjanic leaving, the absolute best dont need him, he doesnt need and want the Roma`s of the world, Matuidi is here to stay also, Khedira is a coach favourite, Bentancur proved to be a player with a high potential, he has to be more involved next season. We need (at least) 6 (six) center midfielders in our roster, with 3 of them on the field most of the time (we are a better team with an extra body in the middle of the park, dont care if its 4-3-3, 4-3-2-1, 4-3-1-2, 4-3-1-1-1 or whatever). Sturaro can leave, probably should have left already, and Claudio... Eerh, I love him, have two t-shirts with number 8 at the back, my black and white cat I named after him... He`s "only" 32, he is Juve, hope he really stays injury free and gets back to his old self, he could be extremely useful both on and off the pitch, and he would be the vice-captain after Giorgio. With that being said, we need/have to splash the cash on a top central midfielder, a star, high-profile player, or a younger one with huuge potential and already a well-known name. Yes, the serbian is an excellent choice, Fabinho is also a solid player, Kovacic if a market opportunity arises :D , etc. Main point is - a star CM is wanted, a starter who can add to what we have here and help take it to another level, and those players cost money, sometimes a lot of it, the management should be prepared and provide a solid portion of our budget for that. This should be the main target this summer.

Our flanks are interesting, at our back four we will add to Alex Sandro and DeSciglio a decent and useful player like Spinazzola, we could use an upgrade on Mattia, but his name is not Darmian, that much I know. Finding a solid right back is job number two for Beppe and co, Hysaj is the only one in Serie A who is good enough to start for Juventus, if he`s out of touch, then look abroad. Wingers - Dougie is good, Berna is excitement, Cuads is... awesome on his day, tragic when having an off day... Useful player to have in the squad, but should be a back-up for DC/Bernardeschi. Mario is a true soldier, just like Sandro he had a better season last campaign, if he stays at the club, he should be only a back-up striker, enough with the LW sheit. If he leaves, a replacement should arrive, who - I dont care. Pjaca should be tested and given a chance in preseason, he`s absolutely not impressive at Schalke but he did impress at the Euro two years ago, he can do it again in Russia. He can be used in several positions, he`s got some talent, can become a good player and all, but he can also be sacrifficed if a stupid offer comes for him, same with Cuads I think, but Cuads is almost 30, Pjaca is 22, he can be hyped to the sky, I`m sure if there are offers for him, they will be carefully evaluated.
Higuain stays, Dybala... I`ll be surprised if he is sold. Same for Sandro applies to Paulo also - is he even going to the world cup? How is he a 150+ mil rated player and not good enough to be amongst the 23-player squad for the World Cup? Our 24 soon to be 25 year old kid with huge potential is not exactly setting the world on fire and even if I laugh at the news linking him to Atletico M for example, truth is that Atletico M is what Dybala`s level is right now. He is not going to Barca, he is not going to Real, I doubt that Bayern would want him, Juventus is the best that Paulo can hope and aim for, considering all football-related stuff, and if money is what he actually wants more, then there`s always the english clowns and PSG, China is also very attractive these days... Just finish the season, take a good vacation, relax, then get your sheit together and start acting like the superstar that you really could be! Your first month, month and a half this season is how you should perform on a regular basis, not once in a blue moon. Grow up and be a leader of this team, be the superstar and move the club forward! Or...

Players out:
Buffon - retired
Licht - free
Asamoa - free
Howedes - end of loan
Sturaro - peanuts

Players to leave if good offer arrives:
Pjaca
Mandzukic
Cuadrado

Players that can ASK the club to leave/be sold:
Barzagli - to retire
Alex Sandro
Marchisio - hope not
Dybala

Players in:
Back-up-experienced goalkeeper - free
Caldara - good and ours
Spinazzola - good and ours
Sergej/Fabinho/Kovacic - a lot of money, probably more than 50% of our transfer budget
Hysaj/RB - a decent amount of money

A Martial type of player - if Mario and Pjaca are sold and there is a need of a LW-ish player, next do Dybala behind the striker, or the left one in a attacking trident, whatever we play next season.

-------------------------Woj--------------------------
----Hysaj----Caldara----Benatia----AlexSandro----
-----------Sergej-----Pjanic-----Bentancur----------
----------------Dybala---------DCosta---------------
------------------------Higuain-----------------------


-----------------------Marchetti-------------------------
----DeSciglio----Rugani----Chiellini----Spinazzola----
------------Khedira---Marchisio---Matuidi--------------
-------Cuadrado------------------Bernardeschi--------
----------------------Mandzukic-------------------------
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
I dont believe all that overhaul talk, it`s a massive exageration after ONE game/one bad result. We shouldnt and we wont release too many players and also bring in just as many new faces, first - because it`s stupid, second - because we`re not in 2010/2011/2012 anymore and third - because we dont need to.

Retiring or not, Gigi is having his last season as a #1, starting next campaign Woj is the man in goal, period. If it is Gigi or Marchetti for 2nd choice, or Gigi and whoever else for 2nd choice, it is simple - Gigi! If he does retire, then look for a free and experienced option, also keep Pinsoglio.

Barzagli, Licht, Asamoa... Two of them will possibly leave on free transfer, my guess is Stephan and Kwadwo, and if Andrea decides not to retire and stay for another season, he will sign a 1y contract. I wish he does decides to stay one more year, accepting the role of a last choice CB and being very active during training sessions, he is a professor of football and a master at defending, he can teach those kids a thing or two. A possible job at Allegri`s staff also comes to mind, Max already confessed he offered Gattusso an option to retire and join his staff while at Milan.
Howedes stays, Howedes goes... whatever the management decides, it`s clear that we wont pay the money agreed with Schalke as he`s with only 1 appearance so far this season, he cannot be judged, a free loan for another year or ship back to ze germans, if given a second chance and is injury free, I bet he would be motivated like hell to give his best and repay the faith, given in him. If we decide against it, wish him good luck in his next team.
I dont think Alex Sandro will leave. His performance dropped from last season, from labelled second best LB in world football after Marcelo to being third best in Brazil squad and probably missing the world cup. Also dont see a top club being really after him, Real, Barca, Bayern... nope, Chelsea got LB, other english clubs that are said to be after him, its just paper talk. The brits will focus their attention to local kids, the one from Fulham, the next Bale, and the one from Celtic, Thierney or whatever his name is, one of them is going to Man Utd, the other one we`ll see. PSG may be an option, but they will be all over the market, their new manager already has a list of players, for sure. Sandro will leave only if he spesificly rejects new contract offer and decides to be sold, if not - he`ll stay here. DeSciglio also is going nowhere.

Our midfield needs an upgrade, clear as a day. Dont see Pjanic leaving, the absolute best dont need him, he doesnt need and want the Roma`s of the world, Matuidi is here to stay also, Khedira is a coach favourite, Bentancur proved to be a player with a high potential, he has to be more involved next season. We need (at least) 6 (six) center midfielders in our roster, with 3 of them on the field most of the time (we are a better team with an extra body in the middle of the park, dont care if its 4-3-3, 4-3-2-1, 4-3-1-2, 4-3-1-1-1 or whatever). Sturaro can leave, probably should have left already, and Claudio... Eerh, I love him, have two t-shirts with number 8 at the back, my black and white cat I named after him... He`s "only" 32, he is Juve, hope he really stays injury free and gets back to his old self, he could be extremely useful both on and off the pitch, and he would be the vice-captain after Giorgio. With that being said, we need/have to splash the cash on a top central midfielder, a star, high-profile player, or a younger one with huuge potential and already a well-known name. Yes, the serbian is an excellent choice, Fabinho is also a solid player, Kovacic if a market opportunity arises :D , etc. Main point is - a star CM is wanted, a starter who can add to what we have here and help take it to another level, and those players cost money, sometimes a lot of it, the management should be prepared and provide a solid portion of our budget for that. This should be the main target this summer.

Our flanks are interesting, at our back four we will add to Alex Sandro and DeSciglio a decent and useful player like Spinazzola, we could use an upgrade on Mattia, but his name is not Darmian, that much I know. Finding a solid right back is job number two for Beppe and co, Hysaj is the only one in Serie A who is good enough to start for Juventus, if he`s out of touch, then look abroad. Wingers - Dougie is good, Berna is excitement, Cuads is... awesome on his day, tragic when having an off day... Useful player to have in the squad, but should be a back-up for DC/Bernardeschi. Mario is a true soldier, just like Sandro he had a better season last campaign, if he stays at the club, he should be only a back-up striker, enough with the LW sheit. If he leaves, a replacement should arrive, who - I dont care. Pjaca should be tested and given a chance in preseason, he`s absolutely not impressive at Schalke but he did impress at the Euro two years ago, he can do it again in Russia. He can be used in several positions, he`s got some talent, can become a good player and all, but he can also be sacrifficed if a stupid offer comes for him, same with Cuads I think, but Cuads is almost 30, Pjaca is 22, he can be hyped to the sky, I`m sure if there are offers for him, they will be carefully evaluated.
Higuain stays, Dybala... I`ll be surprised if he is sold. Same for Sandro applies to Paulo also - is he even going to the world cup? How is he a 150+ mil rated player and not good enough to be amongst the 23-player squad for the World Cup? Our 24 soon to be 25 year old kid with huge potential is not exactly setting the world on fire and even if I laugh at the news linking him to Atletico M for example, truth is that Atletico M is what Dybala`s level is right now. He is not going to Barca, he is not going to Real, I doubt that Bayern would want him, Juventus is the best that Paulo can hope and aim for, considering all football-related stuff, and if money is what he actually wants more, then there`s always the english clowns and PSG, China is also very attractive these days... Just finish the season, take a good vacation, relax, then get your sheit together and start acting like the superstar that you really could be! Your first month, month and a half this season is how you should perform on a regular basis, not once in a blue moon. Grow up and be a leader of this team, be the superstar and move the club forward! Or...

Players out:
Buffon - retired
Licht - free
Asamoa - free
Howedes - end of loan
Sturaro - peanuts

Players to leave if good offer arrives:
Pjaca
Mandzukic
Cuadrado

Players that can ASK the club to leave/be sold:
Barzagli - to retire
Alex Sandro
Marchisio - hope not
Dybala

Players in:
Back-up-experienced goalkeeper - free
Caldara - good and ours
Spinazzola - good and ours
Sergej/Fabinho/Kovacic - a lot of money, probably more than 50% of our transfer budget
Hysaj/RB - a decent amount of money

A Martial type of player - if Mario and Pjaca are sold and there is a need of a LW-ish player, next do Dybala behind the striker, or the left one in a attacking trident, whatever we play next season.

-------------------------Woj--------------------------
----Hysaj----Caldara----Benatia----AlexSandro----
-----------Sergej-----Pjanic-----Bentancur----------
----------------Dybala---------DCosta---------------
------------------------Higuain-----------------------


-----------------------Marchetti-------------------------
----DeSciglio----Rugani----Chiellini----Spinazzola----
------------Khedira---Marchisio---Matuidi--------------
-------Cuadrado------------------Bernardeschi--------
----------------------Mandzukic-------------------------
:tup: I agree on most points, although would be nice to also have a promising midfielder on the bench instead of Khedira, f.e. Mandragora. I really hope you'll turn our right and we'll bring in top RB and CM and keep our stars
 

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