Brilliant, another country developes nuclear weapons? Oh lord, save us from Dubya. (15 Viewers)

[Ian]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
"If it ain't broke, why fix it."

The world would be cruel no matter what we do.

It is broke, that's why you're fighting a war in the middle east, and why people hijack airliners and crash them into buildings. That's broke.

And that's a very cynical thing to say. Maybe the world could be a nice place to live for everyone. Maybe we don't have to kill people. And maybe it wouldn't hurt to try, even if it is impossible.

 

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[Bjerknes]

I give up. I have nothing else to add except that I donate to the poor. I guess thats all I do...

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Well, if your grandmother had balls she would be your grandfather.

There will always be war no matter what, the Isrealis and Palestinians have been at war for over 2000 years, that is just how it is and how it will always be.


P.S. - Andy is fat.

 

[Dragon]

++ [ originally posted by Bürke ] ++
Well, if your grandmother had balls she would be your grandfather.

There will always be war no matter what, the Isrealis and Palestinians have been at war for over 2000 years, that is just how it is and how it will always be.


P.S. - Andy is fat.

does that mean that the clothes he donates dont fit the people he donates them to?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Only a certain small percentage.

 

[Zlatan]

++ [ originally posted by Ian ] ++


Who formed Yugoslavia? The United Nations. Who ran the United Nations, at that time? The United States.

The origins of Yugoslavia date way before than 1945, in fact, it goes back to 1920 when Kraljevina SHS was formed, a nation consisting of Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, a kingdom where Serbia had the dominating role, and it existed in various forms and under different names until 1941 when NDH (Nezavisna država Hrvatska), a fascist nation, was created. The royal family of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was driven out of the country for collaboration with the enemy, and as head of the resistance and head of the Communist party, Tito was the leader of the new founded Socialistic Federative Republic of Yugoslavia, and he was later named life-long president.

Besides, why would the US support the creation of a communist country?

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
Its called the Promised Land.

They can put that statement in thier arse.....nobody smart enough buy's that crap. My promised land is Hawaii,do you see me conqure those people,killin them and putting them into cage?

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

++ [ originally posted by Ian ] ++


This is a rather convoluted issue. The Jews have some historical claim to that land.

As I said....that is the biggest bullshit....claiming that somebodys land is yours just cuz some book says so? Ok,I belive in Bible too,but that doesnt means that you need to exterminate whole nation for that. Let's say that Monglos or somebody decide to comeback on their old land.....what? You would tolerate me or sb in cage being treated like an animal just cuz "their" book says so?

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++


The origins of Yugoslavia date way before than 1945, in fact, it goes back to 1920 when Kraljevina SHS was formed, a nation consisting of Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, a kingdom where Serbia had the dominating role, and it existed in various forms and under different names until 1941 when NDH (Nezavisna država Hrvatska), a fascist nation, was created. The royal family of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was driven out of the country for collaboration with the enemy, and as head of the resistance and head of the Communist party, Tito was the leader of the new founded Socialistic Federative Republic of Yugoslavia, and he was later named life-long president.

Besides, why would the US support the creation of a communist country?

That's more or less true. Some facts stand....in Kingdom of Serbs,Horvats and Slovenians there was no Bosnain people nor Bosnai & Herzegovina......Bosnia was a part of Croatia....then and during WW2 in that "fascist" nation.

 

[Zlatan]

Actually, Bosnia was a part of SHS, but they had very little political power. AFAIK, it was not a part of Croatia.

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

Wait....should I scann you "Ustaška" passport dated from Sarajevo,1943? No,I will just find a map

 

[Zlatan]

1943 yes, but not in the original SHS as far as i know.

 

[Ian]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
The origins of Yugoslavia date way before than 1945, in fact, it goes back to 1920 when Kraljevina SHS was formed, a nation consisting of Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, a kingdom where Serbia had the dominating role, and it existed in various forms and under different names until 1941 when NDH (Nezavisna država Hrvatska), a fascist nation, was created. The royal family of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was driven out of the country for collaboration with the enemy, and as head of the resistance and head of the Communist party, Tito was the leader of the new founded Socialistic Federative Republic of Yugoslavia, and he was later named life-long president.

Besides, why would the US support the creation of a communist country?

Okay, there have been pan-slavic movements since the late 1800's that's not the question. It was the allies after WWI who drew the lines that put Yugoslavia on the map. It was the US, after WWII, that kept those lines the same. Besides, Tito was never a Stalinist...He's always been one of my favourite communists, him and Trotsky...

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

++ [ originally posted by Ian ] ++


Okay, there have been pan-slavic movements since the late 1800's that's not the question. It was the allies after WWI who drew the lines that put Yugoslavia on the map. It was the US, after WWII, that kept those lines the same. Besides, Tito was never a Stalinist...He's always been one of my favourite communists, him and Trotsky...

Well,Tito was a Croat and a war criminal....that's why we always treated him as a Serb. He was the leader allright....but his favourism of serbia and belgrade led to the balkan war.

 

[Zlatan]

That is so wrong that it's painful. How did he favour Serbs? Tito did his best to keep religion at a minimum because he knew that when you bring nationalism and religion into the mix in the Balkans this is what happenes.

If anything, Tito tried to lessen the Serbian influence. It was his death that brought the war, it was Milošević and Tuđman.

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

No,it was Milosevic and his "great serbia" ideas.....we just wanted independence.....

 

[Zlatan]

Maybe, but later on the napkin tells a different story on the war in Bosnia.

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

We had to protect our people in Bosnia.....and we all know what kinda of shit happened there.

 

[Zlatan]

You had to protect your people? From who?

 

[gray]

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