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juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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The prosecution asked for a nine point penalty, the court ended up going with an even stiffer sentence, docking them 15 points, why? There is no clear precedent or jurisprudence to that regard. It's certainly unusual for a judge to exceed the prosecutors' request and take so much time to write down his reasons. (Tuttojuve)
 

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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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The prosecution asked for a nine point penalty, the court ended up going with an even stiffer sentence, docking them 15 points, why? There is no clear precedent or jurisprudence to that regard. It's certainly unusual for a judge to exceed the prosecutors' request and take so much time to write down his reasons. (Tuttojuve)
completely arbitrary

fuck italy, fuck figc, and also fuck our former directors who put us in a similar position. should have learned from calciopoli, dumb idiots
 

Ronn

Mes Que Un Club
May 3, 2012
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The players who would have signed the pact risk a heavy disqualification: Bonucci, Rabiot, McKennie, Cuadrado and Szczesny, could be disqualified, while no longer at Juve, the names at risk would be those of Dybala, Arthur and Bernardeschi. There is possibility of one or two months ban from playing in the league.

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completely arbitrary

fuck italy, fuck figc, and also fuck our former directors who put us in a similar position. should have learned from calciopoli, dumb idiots
Not sure if this is answered before, but how are the members of that kangaroo court picked? Who appoints them?
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
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completely arbitrary

fuck italy, fuck figc, and also fuck our former directors who put us in a similar position. should have learned from calciopoli, dumb idiots
I dont blame them (mgt) at all for this. Its not regulated, plusvalenza. They are making up rules on the fly and they havent even made this rule yet. And how would you restrict someone to exchange players for a profit? Its nonsense. What should we be aware of next? We cant always live in fear of whatever we are doing atm might be subject of investigation some time in future. How is that good environment for any business?
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Not sure if this is answered before, but how are the members of that kangaroo court picked? Who appoints them?
good question, i have no idea. i'll try to dig out something on this

I dont blame them (mgt) at all for this. Its not regulated, plusvalenza. They are making up rules on the fly and they havent even made this rule yet. And how would you restrict someone to exchange players for a profit? Its nonsense. What should we be aware of next? We cant always live in fear of whatever we are doing atm might be subject of investigation some time in future. How is that good environment for any business?
good point, but even we (tuz) knew that some fishy deals happened and they served nothing else besides cooking the books. spina - pellegrini is the prime example: same position, we ended up with the worst player who couldn't even be fit into the squad (spina homegrown, useless pellegrini not). also there were some precedents for sports jurisdiction trying to punish clubs over plusvalenza driven deals. they should have known better, they should have anticipated the attacks. and tici's wiretaps, bloody hell, those are borderline admissions (which still can't be used as evidence, but still, you get the point)

this doesn't make our managers criminals, just incompetent bozos (here's your hint @Dru )
 

Enron

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Oct 11, 2005
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Sports rules/rulings may not be "real" but we're still a publicly traded tax paying business worth hundreds of millions, if not more. I can't see how a governing body can arbitrarily causes millions in damages to us and there not be any repercussions.
I doubt it works like that in Italy. But assuming it did, you’d have to have the courts eventually rule in your favor and then decide to go against the FIGC. can’t see that happening. Probably why not much happened after it turned out that calciopoli was a nothing burger.
 

Scottish

Zebrastreifenpferd
Mar 13, 2011
10,185
Sports rules/rulings may not be "real" but we're still a publicly traded tax paying business worth hundreds of millions, if not more. I can't see how a governing body can arbitrarily causes millions in damages to us and there not be any repercussions.
$2.5bn we're worth

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change a letter (and shoot an other messenger) :snoop:
It's not Dmitry Medvedev is it? :panic:
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
23,990
good question, i have no idea. i'll try to dig out something on this


good point, but even we (tuz) knew that some fishy deals happened and they served nothing else besides cooking the books. spina - pellegrini is the prime example: same position, we ended up with the worst player who couldn't even be fit into the squad (spina homegrown, useless pellegrini not). also there were some precedents for sports jurisdiction trying to punish clubs over plusvalenza driven deals. they should have known better, they should have anticipated the attacks. and tici's wiretaps, bloody hell, those are borderline admissions (which still can't be used as evidence, but still, you get the point)

this doesn't make our managers criminals, just incompetent bozos (here's your hint @Dru )
I dont agree with this at all. We didnt break any law here and I dont care how someone felt at some point. You cant pass the verdict based on feelings. You shouldnt anticipate that some of your actions which is perfectly legal now, might not be in the future and that by doing it right now you might be exposing yourself for prosecution going forward 5-10 years. Wtf!? It would be impossible to do anything then, in any business.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,781
I doubt it works like that in Italy. But assuming it did, you’d have to have the courts eventually rule in your favor and then decide to go against the FIGC. can’t see that happening. Probably why not much happened after it turned out that calciopoli was a nothing burger.
You're probably right, which will leave me immensely disappointed. But I still have to have some hope for it until proven otherwise at least. Just going to keep happening unless we hit back.
 

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