If You look at legal technicality being violated lack of evidence and the time taken for judges to take think about the reasons to punish juve we have a very good chance.
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The Federal Prosecutor's Office will ask for an other -15 points penalty hoping the judges will be liberal in their punishment this time for making "hidden" deals with players in the 2019-20 and 2020-21 seasons.
In addition a fine worth 1 to 3 times the amount agreed or paid to the players.
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In an interview with la Repubblica the day prior, Mario Serio, the then-director of the private law department at the Palermo Faculty of Law and one of the five members of the CAF who signed the verdict, stated: "It wasn't a unanimous decision, it wasn't shared." Despite a lack of evidence regarding match fixing and no Article 6 violation, only Juventus was sentenced to be relegated to Serie B and stripped of their titles after taking into consideration the collective interests of the parties involved in the investigation. Serio added: "We tried to interpret a collective sentiment. We listened to ordinary people and tried to put ourselves on the wavelength." According to Serio, while Juventus was relegated, the other clubs "were saved"; all this happened "because people wanted it that way", referencing sentimento popolare ("people's feelings"). Serio said he wanted to convict then-FIGC president Franco Carraro and remove Milan from European competitions but Sandulli, Salvatore Catalano, and Mario Sanino put him into minority. Milan was saved because then-Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani stated that he was not aware of Milan referee clerk Leonardo Meani's behavior; this was proved to be false in later wiretaps and developments. Serio added: "We recognized everything about the CAF ruling, apart from two episodes: the falsified championship, the repeated offences of Juventus, [and] the existence of a system." Corrado De Biase, 1980 Totonero chief investigator, commented on the sentence of Francesco Saverio Borrelli, who spoke of a "structured illicit" as a crime committed by Moggi and his associates. He said: "We're talking about a structured illicit. But what is it? It doesn't exist. They want to make it clear that there's something different, anomalous. But structured illicit, not at all. There's no sporting illicit. We can't talk about things that don't exist in the sports judicial system. I still haven't seen any proof of sporting illicit. Until now, what I see is the violation of Article 1 of the Sports Justice Code, which requires members to behave according to the principles of loyalty, correctness, and probity. But of what we have read to date, it doesn't prove to me that there was an attempt to alter a match."
The CAF ruling was long disputed because of the severity of the punishment meted out to Juventus compared to the other clubs involved. The verdict remains controversial, as Juventus was charged with Article 1 violations, like the other involved clubs, and did not violate Article 6, but it was the sole club to be relegated.
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Tens of thousands of Bianconeri fans are organising a protest against the obvious injustice of the club by the Federal Court. The revolt is growing, there are those who are thinking about a class action lawsuit against figc.
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In addition a fine worth 1 to 3 times the amount agreed or paid to the players.
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Yes just remembered
In an interview with la Repubblica the day prior, Mario Serio, the then-director of the private law department at the Palermo Faculty of Law and one of the five members of the CAF who signed the verdict, stated: "It wasn't a unanimous decision, it wasn't shared." Despite a lack of evidence regarding match fixing and no Article 6 violation, only Juventus was sentenced to be relegated to Serie B and stripped of their titles after taking into consideration the collective interests of the parties involved in the investigation. Serio added: "We tried to interpret a collective sentiment. We listened to ordinary people and tried to put ourselves on the wavelength." According to Serio, while Juventus was relegated, the other clubs "were saved"; all this happened "because people wanted it that way", referencing sentimento popolare ("people's feelings"). Serio said he wanted to convict then-FIGC president Franco Carraro and remove Milan from European competitions but Sandulli, Salvatore Catalano, and Mario Sanino put him into minority. Milan was saved because then-Milan vice-president Adriano Galliani stated that he was not aware of Milan referee clerk Leonardo Meani's behavior; this was proved to be false in later wiretaps and developments. Serio added: "We recognized everything about the CAF ruling, apart from two episodes: the falsified championship, the repeated offences of Juventus, [and] the existence of a system." Corrado De Biase, 1980 Totonero chief investigator, commented on the sentence of Francesco Saverio Borrelli, who spoke of a "structured illicit" as a crime committed by Moggi and his associates. He said: "We're talking about a structured illicit. But what is it? It doesn't exist. They want to make it clear that there's something different, anomalous. But structured illicit, not at all. There's no sporting illicit. We can't talk about things that don't exist in the sports judicial system. I still haven't seen any proof of sporting illicit. Until now, what I see is the violation of Article 1 of the Sports Justice Code, which requires members to behave according to the principles of loyalty, correctness, and probity. But of what we have read to date, it doesn't prove to me that there was an attempt to alter a match."
The CAF ruling was long disputed because of the severity of the punishment meted out to Juventus compared to the other clubs involved. The verdict remains controversial, as Juventus was charged with Article 1 violations, like the other involved clubs, and did not violate Article 6, but it was the sole club to be relegated.
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Tens of thousands of Bianconeri fans are organising a protest against the obvious injustice of the club by the Federal Court. The revolt is growing, there are those who are thinking about a class action lawsuit against figc.
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Keep going, the only way to change the system. Subscribe off anything Serie A related, tell your friends, share all over social media. When we start winning too much, people's feelings come into play and apparently thats how Italians pass the verdict. There is no guarantee something similar wouldnt happen after a while when Napoli, Milan and Inter fans start feeling like losers again.
So, in short, not a direct relegation but docking enough points to make sure a bottom 3 finish is possible/likely. Good times.
Man, think back to where this club was 5 or 6 years ago & compare that to today. Agnelli & co turned out to be absolute masters at self destruction. Couldn't have done it any better myself.
Man, think back to where this club was 5 or 6 years ago & compare that to today. Agnelli & co turned out to be absolute masters at self destruction. Couldn't have done it any better myself.
The players who would have signed the pact risk a heavy disqualification: Bonucci, Rabiot, McKennie, Cuadrado and Szczesny, could be disqualified, while no longer at Juve, the names at risk would be those of Dybala, Arthur and Bernardeschi. There is possibility of one or two months ban from playing in the league.
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