It is not like the 8 mil are subscribers
3 could be using the same subscription.. or even more
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Where the fuck are you getting the 3-year ban from UEFA.
For all I care. Ceferein had a thing with Andrea and he is gone. Unless he is an asshole and can't be shut out by Elkan.
It is not like UEFA rules are not that clear compared to Italy system.
And as far as it goes.. UEFA is looking for FFP violations up enabling registration ability at UCL. it could or could not be the case.. no one has a clue.
It could be fines for all I care from UEFA.
We should completely focus on making sure everyone else is treated the same as I 100% sure this is a practice everyone is doing.
For all I care. Ceferein had a thing with Andrea and he is gone. Unless he is an asshole and can't be shut out by Elkan.
It is not like UEFA rules are not that clear compared to Italy system.
And as far as it goes.. UEFA is looking for FFP violations up enabling registration ability at UCL. it could or could not be the case.. no one has a clue.
It could be fines for all I care from UEFA.
We should completely focus on making sure everyone else is treated the same as I 100% sure this is a practice everyone is doing.
From Gjustjuve telegram
From what I'm reading... Why Juve and not the others:
Juventus FC was not punished because of Plusvalenze (profit). During the process other points were raised from prosecutor Giuseppe Chinè:
Disloyalty: The names were or skills from the players were not important but the needed value was. On a paper from Paratici you can see he uses a "x" instead of a name.
Leaked calls: Only Juventus was under observation and in a leaked conversation between Cherubini & Paratici you can hear Paratici saying Plusvalenza is ok, even if you put 4M or 10M it doesn't change. ==> Here they say the bad intentions are clear
Falsing the league: Accused of alternating the league because the plusvalenze were faking the books and gave the possibility to sign new players that were playing in the league and giving Juventus a benefit. while other teams were obliged to sell 20 goals scorers.
Ps: this is what Giuseppe Chinè used in the court as a strategy. He knew that Plusvalenza couldn't be punished because there is no rule for this. So he used the "bad intention" card.
That's why the requested 9 deduction points were accepted and even increased to reach 15points
Juventus decided to appeal because they feel they were judged without equity. They feel the witch hunt. Targeting Juve only as a political act.
Makes some sense..
Not plusvalenza.. it is the disloyalty and bad intentions.. lol... 15 points...
While any plusvalenza is a disloyalty of some sort..
+ eventually.. it is still in the books and have to deal with it.
From what I'm reading... Why Juve and not the others:Juventus FC was not punished because of Plusvalenze (profit). During the process other points were raised from prosecutor Giuseppe Chinè:
Disloyalty: The names were or skills from the players were not important but the needed value was. On a paper from Paratici you can see he uses a "x" instead of a name.
Leaked calls: Only Juventus was under observation and in a leaked conversation between Cherubini & Paratici you can hear Paratici saying Plusvalenza is ok, even if you put 4M or 10M it doesn't change. ==> Here they say the bad intentions are clear
Falsing the league: Accused of alternating the league because the plusvalenze were faking the books and gave the possibility to sign new players that were playing in the league and giving Juventus a benefit. while other teams were obliged to sell 20 goals scorers.
Ps: this is what Giuseppe Chinè used in the court as a strategy. He knew that Plusvalenza couldn't be punished because there is no rule for this. So he used the "bad intention" card.
That's why the requested 9 deduction points were accepted and even increased to reach 15points
Juventus decided to appeal because they feel they were judged without equity. They feel the witch hunt. Targeting Juve only as a political act.
Makes some sense..
Not plusvalenza.. it is the disloyalty and bad intentions.. lol... 15 points...
While any plusvalenza is a disloyalty of some sort..
+ eventually.. it is still in the books and have to deal with it.
From Gjustjuve telegram
From what I'm reading... Why Juve and not the others:
Juventus FC was not punished because of Plusvalenze (profit). During the process other points were raised from prosecutor Giuseppe Chinè:
Disloyalty: The names were or skills from the players were not important but the needed value was. On a paper from Paratici you can see he uses a "x" instead of a name.
Leaked calls: Only Juventus was under observation and in a leaked conversation between Cherubini & Paratici you can hear Paratici saying Plusvalenza is ok, even if you put 4M or 10M it doesn't change. ==> Here they say the bad intentions are clear
Falsing the league: Accused of alternating the league because the plusvalenze were faking the books and gave the possibility to sign new players that were playing in the league and giving Juventus a benefit. while other teams were obliged to sell 20 goals scorers.
Ps: this is what Giuseppe Chinè used in the court as a strategy. He knew that Plusvalenza couldn't be punished because there is no rule for this. So he used the "bad intention" card.
That's why the requested 9 deduction points were accepted and even increased to reach 15points
Juventus decided to appeal because they feel they were judged without equity. They feel the witch hunt. Targeting Juve only as a political act.
Makes some sense..
Not plusvalenza.. it is the disloyalty and bad intentions.. lol... 15 points...
While any plusvalenza is a disloyalty of some sort..
+ eventually.. it is still in the books and have to deal with it.
From what I'm reading... Why Juve and not the others:Juventus FC was not punished because of Plusvalenze (profit). During the process other points were raised from prosecutor Giuseppe Chinè:
Disloyalty: The names were or skills from the players were not important but the needed value was. On a paper from Paratici you can see he uses a "x" instead of a name.
Leaked calls: Only Juventus was under observation and in a leaked conversation between Cherubini & Paratici you can hear Paratici saying Plusvalenza is ok, even if you put 4M or 10M it doesn't change. ==> Here they say the bad intentions are clear
Falsing the league: Accused of alternating the league because the plusvalenze were faking the books and gave the possibility to sign new players that were playing in the league and giving Juventus a benefit. while other teams were obliged to sell 20 goals scorers.
Ps: this is what Giuseppe Chinè used in the court as a strategy. He knew that Plusvalenza couldn't be punished because there is no rule for this. So he used the "bad intention" card.
That's why the requested 9 deduction points were accepted and even increased to reach 15points
Juventus decided to appeal because they feel they were judged without equity. They feel the witch hunt. Targeting Juve only as a political act.
Makes some sense..
Not plusvalenza.. it is the disloyalty and bad intentions.. lol... 15 points...
While any plusvalenza is a disloyalty of some sort..
+ eventually.. it is still in the books and have to deal with it.
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Following the Juventus sentence, there have have been threats to prosecutor Giuseppe Chiné and to Gabriele Gravina's partner (for a false social media story). Reports to the authorities are in progress. [@sportface2016)
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The other clubs who took part in these deals are also being investigated. Within 10 days the salary manoeuvre investigation around Juve will be concluded and another heavy points deduction is possible as there is strong evidence. Then remains the UEFA investigation: exclusion from European competitions is a real risk.
- Lawyer Leandro Cantamessa
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"It's a shame. The ways, the times, the incomprehensibility. No one could explain the 15 penalty points to me. Why not 9 as the prosecution demanded, or 30 if the wrongdoing was so serious? Where are the other companies? I expect a clear explanation."
- Tacchinardi
- Lawyer Leandro Cantamessa
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"It's a shame. The ways, the times, the incomprehensibility. No one could explain the 15 penalty points to me. Why not 9 as the prosecution demanded, or 30 if the wrongdoing was so serious? Where are the other companies? I expect a clear explanation."
- Tacchinardi
