Board & Management (74 Viewers)

[s4tch]

Deal with FIGC to not pursue further penalties in seasons ahead still doesnt resolve the issue of possible future penalties from UEFA. With Juve admitted guilty for manouvering to evade FFP rules its easy as fuck for them to ban us for as long as Ceferin deems fit, they dont have to do any work and we're defenseless.

From the outside looking in it looks like a bad move, I expected us to go to international courts.

a plea bargain isn't the admission of guilt, and it doesn't automatically mean that we breached ffp (and ffp was all but suspended anyway for that season lol)

it's not necessarily a bad move: our next league season starts on 0 points, not on -10, and we can finally put those headline generating processes behind. ceferin is a pain in the ass anyway.

 

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[Bianconero_Aus]

Deal with FIGC to not pursue further penalties in seasons ahead still doesnt resolve the issue of possible future penalties from UEFA. With Juve admitted guilty for manouvering to evade FFP rules its easy as fuck for them to ban us for as long as Ceferin deems fit, they dont have to do any work and we're defenseless.

From the outside looking in it looks like a bad move, I expected us to go to international courts.

There will definitely be a European ban for 23/34 imo. Hopefully it’s just for one season only. Maybe the plea bargain (which will stop this from dragging on into next season and falsifying another championship) will satisfy UEFA too.

 

[LiquidPLP]

Deal with FIGC to not pursue further penalties in seasons ahead still doesnt resolve the issue of possible future penalties from UEFA. With Juve admitted guilty for manouvering to evade FFP rules its easy as fuck for them to ban us for as long as Ceferin deems fit, they dont have to do any work and we're defenseless.

From the outside looking in it looks like a bad move, I expected us to go to international courts.

The goal is to be excluded by UEFA this year. Depending on tomorrow's proceedings we will get further minus points or not but we're out of CL for sure. Then UEFA will exclude us from EL/Conference and we start next season with no penalties, with the aim of qualifying to CL.

They simply want to close everything now and suffer all the penalties this season.

 

[DeviAngel]

 

[abstract]

If UEFA has it out for us, why would they ban us for only one season knowing we're playing Conference League ?

 

[DeviAngel]

If UEFA has it out for us, why would they ban us for only one season knowing we're playing Conference League ?

Because I'm sure we are talking with them too.

 

[abstract]

Because I'm sure we are talking with them too.

Elkann will bend the knee

 

[DeviAngel]

Elkann will bend the knee

Rightfully so, we can't win this time, they are fighting on multiple fronts and we are getting fucked without any support from anyone. It's not the right time, when the leadership of FIGC changes then we can sue or do something.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

i bet you can quote a source stating that, right?

think about it, how can you exclude a club from europe if we don't even qualify in the first place?

 

[Strickland]

a plea bargain isn't the admission of guilt, and it doesn't automatically mean that we breached ffp (and ffp was all but suspended anyway for that season lol)

it's not necessarily a bad move: our next league season starts on 0 points, not on -10, and we can finally put those headline generating processes behind. ceferin is a pain in the ass anyway.

FFP was suspended in Covid year(s?), but the plusvalenza case goes back several seasons before that. We didnt admit guilt, but the case is built and a conclusion is reached..

Knowing UEFA's agenda against Agnelli, I'm just worried that during the next season they announce that Juve will have a transfer ban and/or EU competitions ban for the 24/25 season and maybe even beyond that. Banning us from season 23/24 would be far too kind from them.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Rightfully so, we can't win this time, they are fighting on multiple fronts and we are getting fucked without any support from anyone. It's not the right time, when the leadership of FIGC changes then we can sue or do something.

you mean like in 2006 cmon now there's a difference to can't win and don't want to win, our management fall in the latter, if nows not the right time then when? wait 10 more years when these cronies have fucked off to hell and replaced by new ones to fuck us over with. Cmon now seriously

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a plea bargain isn't the admission of guilt, and it doesn't automatically mean that we breached ffp (and ffp was all but suspended anyway for that season lol)

it's not necessarily a bad move: our next league season starts on 0 points, not on -10, and we can finally put those headline generating processes behind. ceferin is a pain in the ass anyway.

To the eyes of ordinary people and to the image of the club we already look guilty. So much for Elkunt saying he will defend the Juventus fans as he put it.

 

[DeviAngel]

you mean like in 2006 cmon now there's a difference to can't win and don't want to win, our management fall in the latter, if nows not the right time then when? wait 10 more years when these cronies have fucked off to hell and replaced by new ones to fuck us over with. Cmon now seriously

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To the eyes of ordinary people and to the image of the club we already look guilty. So much for Elkunt saying he will defend the Juventus fans as he put it.

The salaries case is nothing like 2006. The plusvalenza thing was stupid and we should be fighting more on that front but it was the pill to swallow so we don't bankrupt. We should have fought for the plusvalenza nothing else, but again there's no winning because we are guilty of the salaries thing, so even if we fought and won for the plusvalenza we would end up with -30 plus 032940329 milions penalty. It's impossible scenario.

You have to pick your fights, our beloved Agnelli put us in impossible position to fight or to have friends. It's obvious his sense for tactics is close to 0 and his IQ is in minus, even from the wiretaps you can see that.

It's such a shame.. really

 

[Espectro]

I want to see if somebody from Juventus will ever say or use “Fino alla Fine” with straight face

 

[DAiDEViL]

To the eyes of ordinary people and to the image of the club we already look guilty.

Man, that ship has long sailed anyway.

 

[DeviAngel]

Man, that ship has long sailed anyway.

Has it thou? Barca has done worst things but with Messi they magically washed everything away....

 

[s4tch]

think about it, how can you exclude a club from europe if we don't even qualify in the first place?

at least read seven's relevant posts here

 

[Seven]

Can anyone tell me in one sentence what we are actually punished for?

Because when I read Italian newspapers, I notice that they need two pages just to explain what we did wrong.

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[Hist]

Tbh I think we are guilty in the salary manoeuvre case. Not to say we were the only club who fucked around with this, but we clearly did break the rules there.

For me it’s the plusvalenza case which was 100% a beat up and a disgrace that we just copped that all on the chin.

That’s how Kompromat works and why it’s so effective. Whatever shady activity you were involved in is systemic and common but you’ll be uniquely targeted for punishment and scandal when you are out of line with the powers that be.

Defending yourself as innocent becomes very difficult since you were doing shady shit. Your fall back is to say everyone else is doing this, this is selective punishment etc… but you’re the one with a media campaign after you, you’re the one the FIGC talks about in press releases and comments, you are the one whose phone calls will leak and no one else.

Not to mention that the judge and jury are also complicit, so most likely you’ll just take the fall and ask for forgiveness to limit the damage.

 

[Lion]

100% confident that juve wil not be banned from europe at all and at worst maybe one season.

anymore than that is fuel for super league restart and uefa knows it.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Has it thou? Barca has done worst things but with Messi they magically washed everything away....

Imo yes. For the casual football fan we'll always be the guys who went down to serie-b for being cheats.