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Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,749
The more I think about this appeal verdict the more I think we’re long term getting shafted. This verdict wasn’t a good outcome…

It’s now been pushed back to the FiGC to essentially have another attempt at getting an iron clad conviction. I can’t imagine they fuck it up again. This now leaves us in a position where we may ‘think’ we are qualifying from Europe but by the time the final verdict is announced we are in June and no football can be played. Then we have no time for an appeal before the European places are finalised.

This CONI verdict is nothing but another attempt to destabilise Juventus.

This should have been wiped out on appeal, the fact that it wasn’t should be a major concern to us
If that happens we'll have no one to blame but ourselves for failing to defend ourselves legally

* Says me who knows nothing about the law here. But you have to think if there's no evidence then surely we have a case to sue them.
 

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Aug 2, 2005
4,418
Possible analysis...
The verdict yesterday is a bad sign...


""Let's be clear: yesterday gave us two huge bad news.
The first is the referral to the Federal Court of Appeal with the confirmation of the sentence for Agnelli, Paratici, Cherubini and Arrivabene which can only draw a gloomy future as regards the confirmation of the penalty.

The second is the meeting between Laporta and Ceferin in Slovenia which, according to Spanish sources, has assured the Catalan club the clemency of UEFA which has guaranteed that it will not move against the Blaugrana club in the absence of convictions by ordinary justice.

The same sources, close to Barcelona, report that the two have also discussed the Super league, suggesting that the issue is on the table for negotiations.

Barcelona, accused of far more serious behaviors than those attributed to Juventus and which, as they emerge, appear increasingly disturbing, would therefore have bowed their heads before the power of UEFA.

Is all lost?
There is still one pending case in Luxemburg, two in Palazzo Spada and two in Strasbourg, in addition to the possible appeals to the TAR and the judgment of the CFA.
But our faith in justice is at an all-time low. The political battle evidently sees us succumbing, but we don't want to give in.

We ask all Juventus fans to abandon mutual skirmishes on the coach, the centre-forward, the followers and other trifles and to concentrate all together on one goal: stopping subscriptions to DAZN.
It's the only goal we can score, it's more important than any game.

[Message from JU29RO]""

Gjustjuve
 
Jun 16, 2020
12,435
Possible analysis...
The verdict yesterday is a bad sign...


""Let's be clear: yesterday gave us two huge bad news.
The first is the referral to the Federal Court of Appeal with the confirmation of the sentence for Agnelli, Paratici, Cherubini and Arrivabene which can only draw a gloomy future as regards the confirmation of the penalty.

The second is the meeting between Laporta and Ceferin in Slovenia which, according to Spanish sources, has assured the Catalan club the clemency of UEFA which has guaranteed that it will not move against the Blaugrana club in the absence of convictions by ordinary justice.

The same sources, close to Barcelona, report that the two have also discussed the Super league, suggesting that the issue is on the table for negotiations.

Barcelona, accused of far more serious behaviors than those attributed to Juventus and which, as they emerge, appear increasingly disturbing, would therefore have bowed their heads before the power of UEFA.

Is all lost?
There is still one pending case in Luxemburg, two in Palazzo Spada and two in Strasbourg, in addition to the possible appeals to the TAR and the judgment of the CFA.
But our faith in justice is at an all-time low. The political battle evidently sees us succumbing, but we don't want to give in.

We ask all Juventus fans to abandon mutual skirmishes on the coach, the centre-forward, the followers and other trifles and to concentrate all together on one goal: stopping subscriptions to DAZN.
It's the only goal we can score, it's more important than any game.

[Message from JU29RO]""

Gjustjuve
So what’s the bad news exactly?
 

DeviAngel

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2014
3,687
So what’s the bad news exactly?
Barca bowed to UEFA so its only Juventus and RM now. They'll push even harder now on all fronts. RM has the means and the board to defend the club and make noise no matter what. We are quiet and tend to shut up and give up on the first obsticale.

Even in the most corrupted countries something like this yesterday wouldn't happen. They basically said - You punsihed them for nothing, a lot of things are not clear but hey let's save your face FIGC go ahead and judge them again.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,899
and Romeo says another guy, probably meelan's guy. :scared:
No fuck ricky

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If that happens we'll have no one to blame but ourselves for failing to defend ourselves legally

* Says me who knows nothing about the law here. But you have to think if there's no evidence then surely we have a case to sue them.
Didn't we hire a lawyer who's the son of one of the prosecutors or something? I mean really its a fucking botch job
 
Aug 2, 2005
4,418
“If we talk about -8 points, which is an example, and Juventus had an advantage over the fifth in the Champions League race or the seventh in the Europa League race with a higher number of points, it is clear that for the principles of affliction the penalty could be for next season"

Napoli Lawyer..
Affliction.. hahahaha...

Why is he confident we will get a points penality?
 

DeviAngel

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2014
3,687
“If we talk about -8 points, which is an example, and Juventus had an advantage over the fifth in the Champions League race or the seventh in the Europa League race with a higher number of points, it is clear that for the principles of affliction the penalty could be for next season"

Napoli Lawyer..
Affliction.. hahahaha...

Why is he confident we will get a points penality?
Because he is Napoli Lawyer?

IF CONI cares about justice they'll ask to be judged just with financial penalty.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,540
was bene really wiretapped before he worked for juventus? i might have missed it. what kind of legal grounds were present for that? or did he got intercepted because he communicated with juve directors?

also, marotta's last few months at juve happened during the first season that was investigated. if the wiretaps started after marotta left then it makes sense that he wasn't recorded. if he was wiretapped but those records never reached gds and the likes, and never were mentioned by the prosecutors...

yeah, as the tweet says, something doesn't add up

 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,128
Just saw an article in goal by Mark Doyle. Its written that serie A competition is lack of integrity after we won our appleal in CONI. They even use Mou quote before that he said are you sure Juventus not have 59 points and We are in Italy things.

Every article written below is really biased. They never wrote the whole process. How a lots of decision to reduce our points is not fair. Even didnt write new Calciopoli reveal in RAI. But now they write the article as the punishment should have been valid for us. Really biased article

 

Wings

Banter era connoiseur
Contributor
Jul 15, 2002
21,545
Just saw an article in goal by Mark Doyle. Its written that serie A competition is lack of integrity after we won our appleal in CONI. They even use Mou quote before that he said are you sure Juventus not have 59 points and We are in Italy things.

Every article written below is really biased. They never wrote the whole process. How a lots of decision to reduce our points is not fair. Even didnt write new Calciopoli reveal in RAI. But now they write the article as the punishment should have been valid for us. Really biased article

I don't normally read goal.com articles but decided to check this out. What utter garbage! Stopped reading at "Just like the rest of us, Jose Mourinho knew what was coming"
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,128
I don't normally read goal.com articles but decided to check this out. What utter garbage! Stopped reading at "Just like the rest of us, Jose Mourinho knew what was coming"
I also dont want to read it. But normal football fans read it and this will create a wrong perspective for us. We didnt win the appeal as Serie A favour us. We are the one got a bad treatment this season with points deduction and long appeal process but yet this one show that we are the one got a treatment when the sentence of minus points is annuled. They didnt cover a whole process How prosecutor fail to show a new proof document as base of the sentence, About the prosecutor background
 

Wings

Banter era connoiseur
Contributor
Jul 15, 2002
21,545
I also dont want to read it. But normal football fans read it and this will create a wrong perspective for us. We didnt win the appeal as Serie A favour us. We are the one got a bad treatment this season with points deduction and long appeal process but yet this one show that we are the one got a treatment when the sentence of minus points is annuled. They didnt cover a whole process How prosecutor fail to show a new proof document as base of the sentence, About the prosecutor background
I get you but that ship sailed a long time ago.
 
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Mark

The Informer
Administrator
Dec 19, 2003
97,622
was bene really wiretapped before he worked for juventus? i might have missed it. what kind of legal grounds were present for that? or did he got intercepted because he communicated with juve directors?

also, marotta's last few months at juve happened during the first season that was investigated. if the wiretaps started after marotta left then it makes sense that he wasn't recorded. if he was wiretapped but those records never reached gds and the likes, and never were mentioned by the prosecutors...

yeah, as the tweet says, something doesn't add up

they have all the wiretaps ready if he comes back. Same with Giuntoli.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,899
I swear to God this management makes me sick, there's Lapo having a laugh on twitter acting like the hard man, John Elkann is on radio silence not giving a shit, our so called president is being a cuck. God can someone fucking stand up and take freaking action already. Enough with this 'Yeah we are satisfied with being fucked with a 10 inch dildo instead of a 15 inch dildo' stance. This management is as inept on going on the attack as freaking allegri. Sometimes I think they deserve each other
 

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