++ [ originally posted by Paolo_Montero ] ++
you just can't leave Buffon out, can you?
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you just can't leave Buffon out, can you?
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Sure, but Vieri got more goals per game than Trez did - would surely have been top scorer without the earlier injuries.
I'm not knocking Trez or anything, he had a fantastic season, long may it continue, but I feel Buffon was the outstanding player..just..from last year due to the vital saves he was making each week.
I'm not knocking Trez or anything, he had a fantastic season, long may it continue, but I feel Buffon was the outstanding player..just..from last year due to the vital saves he was making each week.
there's something i don't like about buffoni don't like and that's how he gets caught flat-footed sometimes,eg.the goal korea scored in the wc.i don't see the world's top keepers ending up like that,looking stupid and staring into space with that "what-just-happened" look.the floor is where they should end no matter whether they save it or not.it ro else it just makes them seem like they didn't have any time to react or something.
To answer Ian first, Buffon did not rate himself as worth £33m and if a club is stupid enough to pay that kind of money on a goal keeper, well its hardly the keeper's fault an das for Paranoia, once a ball has beaten you as bot goals against Suth Korea showed, there is no point in diving
Goal keepers are different, Kahn is a goal keeper who likes to play to the cameras while some like Buffon and Scmeichel make saves and if they cannot and are fooled then so be it
Against Porto in Oporto we would have been beaten 4-0 if not for Buffon and in the Riazor against Depor, it would have been a basketful, same for against Bayer
Goal keepers are different, Kahn is a goal keeper who likes to play to the cameras while some like Buffon and Scmeichel make saves and if they cannot and are fooled then so be it
Against Porto in Oporto we would have been beaten 4-0 if not for Buffon and in the Riazor against Depor, it would have been a basketful, same for against Bayer
i dont care what Buffon is rated as, we see him play and he is great. (maybe not better than Kahn or Schmiechel a few years ago).
But we have to admit (as Paranoia said) He is caught flat-footed more than other keepers in his catagory. other than the Korea Example, there is the Batistuta freekick that he just watched go in (vs. Roma last year).
BTW...Pete Schmichel is not a show off. look at the previews of the goals scored against him, and you'll find that he at least toched the ball before it went in. (he is never flat-footed).
BTW2. IMO Buffon/Tudor/Nedved/Trez were the best players in their positions
But we have to admit (as Paranoia said) He is caught flat-footed more than other keepers in his catagory. other than the Korea Example, there is the Batistuta freekick that he just watched go in (vs. Roma last year).
BTW...Pete Schmichel is not a show off. look at the previews of the goals scored against him, and you'll find that he at least toched the ball before it went in. (he is never flat-footed).
BTW2. IMO Buffon/Tudor/Nedved/Trez were the best players in their positions
What is the big deal about getting caught flat footed? Surely there is no difference between that, and diving but still failing to retrieve the ball.
If you ever try going in goal, you will know there are times when the ball comes with such power, or at a certain angle, with curl, that it is past you before you even have time to dive, so what is the point diving anyway just so you can't be accused of being caught flat footed?
If you ever try going in goal, you will know there are times when the ball comes with such power, or at a certain angle, with curl, that it is past you before you even have time to dive, so what is the point diving anyway just so you can't be accused of being caught flat footed?
hell....why dont all keepers just sit still and watch the ball go by since it SEEMS too tough!
what i'm saying is that Buffon sometimes doesnt even try. in the Batistuta case, he could have been smarter and quicker. Reflexes and vision is a standard to evaluate keepers.
Maybe Buffon needs more vision so he can predict ball direction better, then maybe with good reflexes he MIGHT get it..
that sure as hell beats watching the ball go in.
i know there are situations where the ball is 1 foot away from the line, and all u can do is watch, we're not talking about those.
what i'm saying is that Buffon sometimes doesnt even try. in the Batistuta case, he could have been smarter and quicker. Reflexes and vision is a standard to evaluate keepers.
Maybe Buffon needs more vision so he can predict ball direction better, then maybe with good reflexes he MIGHT get it..
that sure as hell beats watching the ball go in.
i know there are situations where the ball is 1 foot away from the line, and all u can do is watch, we're not talking about those.