Benazir Bhutto Assasinated (9 Viewers)
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I wont agree with the women are 2nd reated citizens here,as under Musharraf,Women have been granted much more rights and opportunities,but you're spot on when it comes to slamming people who might think that Bhutto's assasination is a good thing.
Zia was a dick indeed.The man was arguably,the worst dictator this conutry has ever seen.His regime will always be remember by Pakistanis as the most tyrranical one this country has ever seen.And top it all,he passed the Hudood Ordinancae,the biggest piece of crap in pakistani history,which fucks women over and OVER again.
Zia was a dick indeed.The man was arguably,the worst dictator this conutry has ever seen.His regime will always be remember by Pakistanis as the most tyrranical one this country has ever seen.And top it all,he passed the Hudood Ordinancae,the biggest piece of crap in pakistani history,which fucks women over and OVER again.
So lets say Pakistan is good and socially acceptable for treating females as second-rate citizens. Yeah, the whole world was not always accepting of females commanding positions of power, but the west, as much as people hate us in the Middle East (Middle fucking east, middle fucking Asia, middle fucking who really cares), has been more accepting to letting women do what they want to do.
I don't want to get into this, you won't change my opinion, I won't change others, nor do I care to, but if a female is castigated for not wearing some crap over her head, society is really fucked up. Just like several aspects of many different supposed cultures.
And it's terrible. And there are still people promoting that crap over there in Pakistinian politics. While Bhutto might have not been the best "leader" for Pakistan, she at least helped some people over there. That's why I just find it disgusting to applaud the murder of this person, which seemingly some people have done here.
Come back to me when you can actually write in English then, and can comprehend units. Pakistan resides right next to Iran... I don't give a fuck if it's Middle East or fringe Middle East. There is no documents to prove either way. This isn't the fucking goddamn Metric System here, dude. It's not speci-fucking-fied.
I don't want to get into this, you won't change my opinion, I won't change others, nor do I care to, but if a female is castigated for not wearing some crap over her head, society is really fucked up. Just like several aspects of many different supposed cultures.
And it's terrible. And there are still people promoting that crap over there in Pakistinian politics. While Bhutto might have not been the best "leader" for Pakistan, she at least helped some people over there. That's why I just find it disgusting to applaud the murder of this person, which seemingly some people have done here.
What map would that? Come back to me when you know the region at discussion. 
I hate to break it to you but you have this "I know it all" tone.
I for one am not applauding her death at all, and most people who were against her aren't either. But as far as her political carrier is concerned, what the fuck do you know? Just because you've read a few articles after her death don't pretend that you know shit, get over yourself.
My English is fine, and what units? Is this where you spit some meteorological term and test my 'knowledge'?
I for one am not applauding her death at all, and most people who were against her aren't either. But as far as her political carrier is concerned, what the fuck do you know? Just because you've read a few articles after her death don't pretend that you know shit, get over yourself.
My English is fine, and what units? Is this where you spit some meteorological term and test my 'knowledge'?
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People are applauding her death Tahir.You wont hear or read it in the news,but some assholes are doing so.I personally know such people,and it sickens me.Benazir wasnt the greatest leader Pakistan ever had,but you can never take away what she meant to women,not just in Pakistan,but women the world over.After 11 years of Zia-Ul-Haq's hawkish dictatorship,the country needed some respite,it needed a some fresh air,it needed to feel like a FREE country.Benazir was that very breath of fresh air.She made mistakes,yes,she made huge mistakes,but so do a lot of politicians.I do not buy the notion that she wanted to hurt Pakistan intentionally.Im sure she did mean well,but the pressure of living up to her father's name,and her political inexperience(She was only 36 when was elected the Prime Minister for the first time) meant that she would crumble eventually,and so she did.You probably dislike Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto for a reason that i dont want to get into,but you need to keep in mind that the Bhutto legacy in Pakistan is unparralled.No family,and i mean NO family,can claim being as popular amongst the masses as the Bhutto family..wether its Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto or Benazir Bhutto.Im not talking about the elite here,im not talking about the middle class here,im talking about the labourers,the poor,the class that makes up 70% of our population.If you ask the common man who his hero was,he'd give you Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto's name.The torch was passed on to Benazir,who despite not being brilliant politically,enjoyed unparralled support in the country.She was elected twice before,had charges of corruption against her,but despite all of that,the rallies she was organizing currently were by far the largest in the country.Hate her if you will,but dont overlook what she and her father meant to the masses,something which im my books,is of a lot of significance.
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So do you, as Dru noted in this thread.
I never said I know anything about her, really. But I do know that women are treated with less respect across the Arab world than here or Europe, something that I find offensive. I'm sure people hated her for being a woman, too. Not saying that about you though.
No. My point is that the boundaries of the "Middle East" are not defined, and some maps of the "Middle East" include Pakistan. It's right next to fucking Iran, which you'd probably label the Middle East. The person who actually "invented" the term never defined it; just stated it's an area between Mesopotamia and Burma. So therefore your comeback doesn't have much venom. It's probably just your usual crap thinking that an American will never know anything about geography.
I never said I know anything about her, really. But I do know that women are treated with less respect across the Arab world than here or Europe, something that I find offensive. I'm sure people hated her for being a woman, too. Not saying that about you though.
My English is fine, and what units? Is this where you spit some meteorological term and test my 'knowledge'?
La di da, you heard it once from him, I read it every day about you.
So the first thing that came to your mind after her death is the treatment of women in the Middle East? Wow.
Did you just go fishing for the history of the word?
Dude you're not really helping your case here, anyone else would have admitted their fault.
Just because Pakistan's a muslim country doesn't make it the middle east. About 60 years ago it was India, now do you consider India to be part of the Middle East?
So the first thing that came to your mind after her death is the treatment of women in the Middle East? Wow.
Did you just go fishing for the history of the word?
Dude you're not really helping your case here, anyone else would have admitted their fault. Just because Pakistan's a muslim country doesn't make it the middle east. About 60 years ago it was India, now do you consider India to be part of the Middle East?
Don't put fucking words in my mouth, Tahir.
Look up the fucking definition of Middle East and tell me the specified boundaries. Are there any? No. I can't believe you're wasting your time and mine over being politically correct. Learn something about your own fucking "region", Tahir.
Did you just go fishing for the history of the word? Dude you're not really helping your case here, anyone else would have admitted their fault.
Just because Pakistan's a muslim country doesn't make it the middle east. About 60 years ago it was India, now do you consider India to be part of the Middle East?
Dude you're not really helping your case here, anyone else would have admitted their fault. Just because Pakistan's a muslim country doesn't make it the middle east. About 60 years ago it was India, now do you consider India to be part of the Middle East?
Look up the fucking definition of Middle East and tell me the specified boundaries. Are there any? No. I can't believe you're wasting your time and mine over being politically correct. Learn something about your own fucking "region", Tahir.
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The Middle East defines a geographical area, but does not have precise defined borders. The modern definition of the region includes:Bahrain, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, the Palestinian territories, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. Egypt, with its Sinai Peninsula in Asia, is considered part of the Middle East, although most of the country lies geographically in North Africa.
This is from wikipedia.
This is from wikipedia.