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[X Æ A-12]

What experiences you have?

There's a place called Calveras County, it's a pretty remote area I've been up there a lot camping, skiing etc. It's supposedly haunted by the victims something called the Calveras County monster, long but awesome story. I stayed at a summer camp up there for a week once and weird things happened. Items were moved, the mess hall lights flicked on and off and music played randomly at night. I also had a pretty frightening night once were I got lost with a friend.

I don't believe in ghosts or anything like that but that week messed with my mind.

 

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[ReBeL]

I know what a Jin is religiously speaking and its not a ghost. Ghosts are things you can see,the one who can posses you,spirits of the troubled dead like the andrea says in the post below.
So even religiously speaking ghosts do not exist.

So you mean by ghosts, those souls of dead people? I don't believe in that too.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

There's a place called Calveras County, it's a pretty remote area I've been up there a lot camping, skiing etc. It's supposedly haunted by the victims something called the Calveras County monster, long but awesome story. I stayed at a summer camp up there for a week once and weird things happened. Items were moved, the mess hall lights flicked on and off and music played randomly at night. I also had a pretty frightening night once were I got lost with a friend.

I don't believe in ghosts or anything like that but that week messed with my mind.

Its definitely a possibility that would come from that experience

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Or simple weak or one starving for attention.



I know what a Jin is religiously speaking and its not a ghost. Ghosts are things you can see,the one who can posses you,spirits of the troubled dead like the andrea says in the post below.
So even religiously speaking ghosts do not exist.



Jeez, like i was saying the shit that i have done in my time. You won't believe the haunted places me and my friends have been to and the awesome parties we had there,the offensive things we did there (and i am not talkin going all punk and shouting "fuck you ghost come and get me" shit)...ive been to exorcisms and i have seen parents drag their 6 year old sons and daughters drag their schizophrenic or straight up mentally ill children out of the hospital and straight to a priest.

China is BIG and there are places of war and genocide in almost every city,there are huge abandoned places of disgusting crimes and graveyards reserved for only murders and rapists. Ive been to all of them and we often ended up drinking and firing a grill.

Tell me in my most drunk state i never saw a ghost,so there is no way i will encounter one sober,because they dont exist.

So then how do you explain multiple people of a long length of time describing the same ghost in my restaurant without prior knowledge? Same details same scenario? All different people different races different times some workers some customers

 

[X Æ A-12]

Matching stories comes from projection. When people here other ghost stories, before or after their experience, their expectations alter their memory/ perception of the event and they see what they believe or subconciously include parts of other peoples stories into their own memory. This is not an uncommon phenomena.

 

[IrishZebra]

Infrasound

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound

 

[WΏΏdy?]

So then how do you explain multiple people of a long length of time describing the same ghost in my restaurant without prior knowledge? Same details same scenario? All different people different races different times some workers some customers

So then how do you explain multiple people of a long length of time describing the same ghost in my restaurant without prior knowledge? Same details same scenario? All different people different races different times some workers some customers

I don't because

1. I hav never personally talked to each of them and compare notes,you have not either. So why would i and most importantly why would you believe in something that you heard?
2. All the people with ghosts sightings i have talked to,they all sounded like bull.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Matching stories comes from projection. When people here other ghost stories, before or after their experience, their expectations alter their memory/ perception of the event and they see what they believe or subconciously include parts of other peoples stories into their own memory. This is not an uncommon phenomena.

That would be accurate if they were not so different in time and persons. There was no previous knowledge told to any of these people nor do we ever discuss it. Totally random scenarios and only the family knows that all of these stories are talking about the same thing

 

[IrishZebra]

Infrasound and paranoia.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I don't because

1. I hav never personally talked to each of them and compare notes,you have not either. So why would i and most importantly why would you believe in something that you heard?
2. All the people with ghosts sightings i have talked to,they all sounded like bull.

In the above example I have talked to them ALL it happened in my restaurant as the owner the stories are relayed to me so your in err again

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Infrasound and paranoia.

What is there to be paranoid about? If no one knows and its bit made public how paranoid is someone eating fettucini carbonara be

 

[WΏΏdy?]

In the above example I have talked to them ALL it happened in my restaurant as the owner the stories are relayed to me so your in err again

I edited the original post with this one but i'l seperate it.

I have many stories man,experiences too. But i always do unnecessary things with an open mind. It is not hard trying to find a live exorcism in indian villages and i am sure i have had more encounters than you with stuff like this

And i don't believe you,because you just don't sound believable.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I used to think a house that I lived in as a kid was haunted. The time we lived there was a very turbulent one for my family--a lot of conflict and drama , strange incidents including some weird religious ones (Catholic family and some of my mom's friends were really fanatical Catholics), house breakings, etc. We've had priests come over to give the house blessings and hold masses to protect the house, that kinda stuff.

There was this one spooky night in particular. I was probably like 6 or 7 and woke up in the morning terrified from some nightmares I was having. They weren't like regular nightmares because I was too scared to go to the bathroom to get ready for school. When I eventually went to go bathe I began hearing voices in the bathroom. My two older sisters revealed how they had matching nightmares that night And my eldest sister used to see ghosts in her room that she could talk to and she has other stories--she is a very dramatic person though, so I don't know.

Anyway, we were all very happy to leave that place despite it being the nicest house we've lived in. Looking back, it probably was our childhood imaginations but a lot of bad stuff coincided with the period that we lived there.

Probably has to do with being a six year old kid and having parents performing rituals on your house. I'd think that would put ideas in any kid's head.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

I edited the original post with this one but i'l seperate it.

I have many stories man,experiences too. But i always do unnecessary things with an open mind. It is not hard trying to find a live exorcism in indian villages and i am sure i have had more encounters than you with stuff like this

And i don't believe you,because you just don't sound believeable.

That's fine you don't have to believe me you can believe what you like. I know what I have experienced and what people have relayed to me about my place of bussiness. Don't assume what you've had in comparrisson to me between different parts of the USA and italy I have experienced a lot

 

[WΏΏdy?]

I used to think a house that I lived in as a kid was haunted. The time we lived there was a very turbulent one for my family--a lot of conflict ...............................

You see it or it does not exist.

 

[AndreaCristiano]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Ever heard about the 3 days of darkness? That's the kind of thing I had to hear about as a kid.

http://www.3daysofdarkness.com/

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[X Æ A-12]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Ever heard about the 3 days of darkness? That's the kind of thing I had to hear about as a kid.

Nope. When I was scared at night as a kid I was told to shut up and go back to bed.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

That's fine you don't have to believe me you can believe what you like. I know what I have experienced and what people have relayed to me about my place of bussiness. Don't assume what you've had in comparrisson to me between different parts of the USA and italy I have experienced a lot

no no its a debate/argument so if you believe in something and make your point you have to make me believe in it.

And why would you believe the peeps relaying the story to you? well experiencing something is very easy,it happens to everyone. But seeing something is totally different.

So, have you ever seen a ghost?

 

[IrishZebra]

What is there to be paranoid about? If no one knows and its bit made public how paranoid is someone eating fettucini carbonara be

Infrasound leads to an onset of paranoia in the mind of people susceptible to believe in the supernatural. It can distort your vision and we all know how powerful the brain can be in filing in blank spaces. The air vibrations have even been documented to make chairs swivel and items move.

There is no evidence whatsoever, if it were so common it would be documented but it isn't, what are documented however are the myriad of hoaxes that have been disproved.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

I'm not saying it was really haunted, just giving a story.

But I don't necessarily agree with your statement.

How so? its true if we are talking about ghosts.