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[JuveJay]

thats obvious. What he can achieve with guinea? nothing. With Italy more chance to successes , fame and money

I would say most Africans play for the country they were born in. He's only been in Italy for 3 years, it's not like he is one of the many African immigrants who emigrated to Italy at a young age.

Besides, Guinea are no better or worse than 3/4 of African teams, he could play in a World Cup or win the ANC.

 

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[Gigiventus]

Diawara would be huge for the team.

 

[zizinho]

great news. icardi next

 

[Osman]

I would say most Africans play for the country they were born in. He's only been in Italy for 3 years, it's not like he is one of the many African immigrants who emigrated to Italy at a young age.

Besides, Guinea are no better or worse than 3/4 of African teams, he could play in a World Cup or win the ANC.

Yeah its really dumb to choose another NT willy nilly like that, I thought only brazilians did that, or to a point some argies.

 

[Gigiventus]

It happens with a lot of players from anywhere in the world for many reasons. The Boatengs from germany, the Alcanataras from Spain, Rossi from the US, Costa, Pepe, Eder and many brazilians, tons of Argentines, etc.

If they are citizens of country and they feel like they can represent then I'm usually ok with it.

 

[JuveJay]

Yeah the game is different now, but still seems like an odd one.

Emerson Palmieri is standard, he won't get near the Brazil team. Christ, even Alex Sandro doesn't get in the squad. Italy do have a few DL/WBL choices now but the spot isn't nailed down by any one player in particular.

 

[Gigiventus]

Diawara has been in Italy since he was 16 and will now become an Italian national, its ok. If its what he feels like then why not? he is Italian for every other purpose (since he will hold an Italian passport and residence). Hopefully he stays in Italy for years to properly represent the country.

 

[Osman]

It happens with a lot of players from anywhere in the world for many reasons. The Boatengs from germany, the Alcanataras from Spain, Rossi from the US, Costa, Pepe, Eder and many brazilians, tons of Argentines, etc.

If they are citizens of country and they feel like they can represent then I'm usually ok with it.

You have a point about the Brazilians. But not the others. They have non football connection. Both boateng have German mother and both Alcantras born and raised in Spain. Rossi has full on Italian parents.

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[Gigiventus]

But Diawara will also have a non football connection, the fact that he is Italian. Whether or not Diawara (or Emerson) represent Italy doesn't change the fact that they are Italian now (or soon in the case for Diawara).

 

[Osman]

Not once disputing they have legal right to represent the country and are full citizens. But they came there for a profession and choose to play for new NT primarily for footballing reasons, not being selected by their home nation or the fact new nation is more prestigious. Treating it as a career choice NT wise is thinking of it like it'd choosing next club which is not ok imo.


If you are an actual immigrant of the country and see it as your home , great, but not if you are an adult who came to work and view it as better offer, that's all.


Senna who played for Spain and Diego Costa are text book cases, don't even pretend for a second to feel any kind of as being Spanish. Fully only Brazilians who made the choice because they were rejected.


But they aren't alone in this ofcourse, these NT who are quick to naturalize them just to get better players (they barely are, I mean FFS Alex telles, Palmieri who?). And far from nationalist kind, but national sports competition should be done in such Cynical bottomline way.

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[pitbull]

I agree, I think it's strange seeing bunch of Canadians representing Kazahstan in hockey or JR Holden representing Russia in basketball, but I don't see a perfect way how to define if the player can represent the country or not.

 

[Osman]

They can, question is if they should, if this is what we want national vs national competitions to be, where you can recruit talent at will instead of doing it with your core demographic.


Preferable if we don't turn into Qatar level mercs more and more.

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[Seven]

Not once disputing they have legal right to represent the country and are full citizens. But they came there for a profession and choose to play for new NT primarily for footballing reasons, not being selected by their home nation or the fact new nation is more prestigious. Treating it as a career choice NT wise is thinking of it like it'd choosing NT which is not ok imo.


If you are an actual immigrant of the country and see it as your hole, great, but not if you are an adult who came to work and view it as better offer, that's all.


Senna who played for Spain and Diego Costa are text book cases, don't even pretend for a second to feel any kind of as being Spanish. Fully only Brazilians who made the choice because they were rejected.


But they aren't alone in this ofcourse, these NT who are quick to naturalize them just to get better players (they barely are, I mean FFS Alex telles, Palmieri who?). And far from nationalist kind, but national sports competition should be done in such Cynical bottomline way.

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Of course it's not okay, but this is not a football problem, but a legal one. It aren't the nt's doing the naturalizing. It's the countries. If a player is granted a certain nationality, he has every right to represent the nt of that country. It's the country that is at fault for granting nationality for such a trivial reason.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Yeah its really dumb to choose another NT willy nilly like that, I thought only brazilians did that, or to a point some argies.

Turks do it too. @lgorTudor

 

[lgorTudor]

Turks do it too. @lgorTudor

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[DIECI]

great news. icardi next

He has a cap for Argentina. He can't play for Italy anymore.

 

[Wittl]

He has a cap for Argentina. He can't play for Italy anymore.

Italy doesnt need him. They have Balotti

 

[pitbull]

He has a cap for Argentina. He can't play for Italy anymore.

Would be funny if it remained his only cap

 

[Wittl]

Would be funny if it remained his only cap

 

[zizinho]

He has a cap for Argentina. He can't play for Italy anymore.

Belotti is better anyway