They have themselves to blame for sitting back. They brought tough luck to themselves.
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Everyone is blaming Balotelli, balotelli this balotelli that.... He's not the problem, he ran and had quite a few shots on goal vs Croatia, I think he was a bit unlucky..... The problem here is Cassano, clearly he's not fit to run 90 minutes, clearly he's not in any condition to lead an Italy attack at a major competition. This guy had heart surgery a few months back, he should be brought on in the 2nd half much like DiNatale is being used, not from the 1st minute.
I would go like this on Monday
.................Balotelli
.................Giovinco
Balzaretti.......................Maggio
.......DeRossi...Pirlo....Marchisio
......Chellini.....Bonucci....Barzagli
Or forget the wings all together, play a 4 man back with 4 mids DeRossi/Pirlo/Marchisio/Montolivo or Giaccerini... but Gica NOT external wing, use him interal like he plays on Juve.
I would go like this on Monday
.................Balotelli
.................Giovinco
Balzaretti.......................Maggio
.......DeRossi...Pirlo....Marchisio
......Chellini.....Bonucci....Barzagli
Or forget the wings all together, play a 4 man back with 4 mids DeRossi/Pirlo/Marchisio/Montolivo or Giaccerini... but Gica NOT external wing, use him interal like he plays on Juve.
I think Cassano gets tired, he he can't create up top we get stagnant. Some of these guys may not be used to playing this formation which requires a lot of movement and running. Start Giovinco and bring Cassano on in the 2nd half.
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but how can players that just played 38+ serie A games have poor fitness levels? You would think they were in top condition. I think its the formation
---------- Post added 15.06.2012 at 08:05 ----------
but how can players that just played 38+ serie A games have poor fitness levels? You would think they were in top condition. I think its the formation
Thiago Motta and Cassano seem to be the main culprits of being in poorer condition, and if Balotelli wasn't so unpredictable he would also stay on the pitch for longer than 60 minutes.
Would be very tempting to stick Barzagli back in defense, move De Rossi into midfield and have Motta on the bench when needed.
The Juventus lot didn't play with the same intensity for 90 minutes, I think they should pace themselves for Ireland, and attempt to play a lot more of a possession game.
Would be very tempting to stick Barzagli back in defense, move De Rossi into midfield and have Motta on the bench when needed.
The Juventus lot didn't play with the same intensity for 90 minutes, I think they should pace themselves for Ireland, and attempt to play a lot more of a possession game.
You're right, Italy would have to win 3-1 or 3-0.
I found an article that will explain it.
GROUP C
Italy must win to stand a chance of going through to the quarter finals, while Spain and Croatia could both qualify with a scoring draw.
Spain and Croatia go into the game in pole position - able to control each other's own destiny by engineering a 2-2 draw. With that result, both teams would go through to the quarter-finals no matter what Italy do.
An Italy win and a draw in the Spain-Croatia game would leave all three sides level on five points, and with the games involving the three sides all finishing as a draw it goes down to goals scored in the mini-league.
If Spain-Croatia finishes 0-0 then Italy would go through as group winners, they will have scored two goals to Spain and Croatia's one, with second place decided by overall group goal difference. That means Spain would go through in second with +4 to Croatia's +2.
If Spain-Croatia finishes 1-1 then it would come down to group goal difference between the three sides, as all three matches will have been drawn by the same scoreline. Spain would be guaranteed to qualify by virtue of their better goal difference with Croatia. If Italy beat Ireland by one goal, or 2-0, they will only finish third in the group. If Italy beat Ireland 3-1 then records will be level and qualification will be decided on each nation's position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system - and that would put Italy though in second ahead of Croatia..
That means that a 3-1 win for Italy, or a two-goal victory of a larger score, or victory by three goals or more, would guarantee their place with a 1-1 draw between Spain and Croatia. With that 1-1 draw Italy can only top Group C if they beat Ireland 5-0, or with a four goal victory of a scoreline 5-1 or higher.
The 2-2 draw, or higher scoring draw, would guarantee Spain and Croatia go through on head to head goals scored with Italy eliminated no matter what margin they beat Ireland by. Spain would top the group with Croatia in second.
http://www.espnfc.com/uk/en/features/1099715/group-permutations.html
I found an article that will explain it.
GROUP C
Italy must win to stand a chance of going through to the quarter finals, while Spain and Croatia could both qualify with a scoring draw.
Spain and Croatia go into the game in pole position - able to control each other's own destiny by engineering a 2-2 draw. With that result, both teams would go through to the quarter-finals no matter what Italy do.
An Italy win and a draw in the Spain-Croatia game would leave all three sides level on five points, and with the games involving the three sides all finishing as a draw it goes down to goals scored in the mini-league.
If Spain-Croatia finishes 0-0 then Italy would go through as group winners, they will have scored two goals to Spain and Croatia's one, with second place decided by overall group goal difference. That means Spain would go through in second with +4 to Croatia's +2.
If Spain-Croatia finishes 1-1 then it would come down to group goal difference between the three sides, as all three matches will have been drawn by the same scoreline. Spain would be guaranteed to qualify by virtue of their better goal difference with Croatia. If Italy beat Ireland by one goal, or 2-0, they will only finish third in the group. If Italy beat Ireland 3-1 then records will be level and qualification will be decided on each nation's position in the UEFA national team coefficient ranking system - and that would put Italy though in second ahead of Croatia..
That means that a 3-1 win for Italy, or a two-goal victory of a larger score, or victory by three goals or more, would guarantee their place with a 1-1 draw between Spain and Croatia. With that 1-1 draw Italy can only top Group C if they beat Ireland 5-0, or with a four goal victory of a scoreline 5-1 or higher.
The 2-2 draw, or higher scoring draw, would guarantee Spain and Croatia go through on head to head goals scored with Italy eliminated no matter what margin they beat Ireland by. Spain would top the group with Croatia in second.
http://www.espnfc.com/uk/en/features/1099715/group-permutations.html
Because after counting points for matches between teams in question (which are all the same), and goals difference in matches between teams in question (all equal since they're all draws), they'll count the goals scored in matches between the teams in question (Croatia and Spain scored more, Spain: 1+2, Croatia: 1+2, Italy: 1+1). The scoreline in their matches against Ireland won't count in this condition (where Spain drew with scores other than 0-0 or 1-1 with Croatia).
Correct me if I'm wrong though, I only read the rules on wiki.
Correct me if I'm wrong though, I only read the rules on wiki.
I explained it yesterday. Uefa regulations are clear. Here it is again:
1. If Spain-Croatia ends 2:2, 3:3 or other high scoring draw then Italy are out no matter what.
2. If Spain-Croatia ends 1:1, then Italy needs to win by 3 goals or 4:2, 5:3 etc. But also...see #3.
3. If Spain-Croatia ends 1:1 and Italy beat Ireland 3:1, then Italy proceed to the quarters due to having better UEFA coefficient.
4. If Spain-Italy ends 0:0, then Italy only needs to win in order to win the group and qualify.
5. If there is a winner on Spain-Croatia, then Italy qualifies with a win over Ireland.
6. If Italy fail to win, then they are out.
1. If Spain-Croatia ends 2:2, 3:3 or other high scoring draw then Italy are out no matter what.
2. If Spain-Croatia ends 1:1, then Italy needs to win by 3 goals or 4:2, 5:3 etc. But also...see #3.
3. If Spain-Croatia ends 1:1 and Italy beat Ireland 3:1, then Italy proceed to the quarters due to having better UEFA coefficient.
4. If Spain-Italy ends 0:0, then Italy only needs to win in order to win the group and qualify.
5. If there is a winner on Spain-Croatia, then Italy qualifies with a win over Ireland.
6. If Italy fail to win, then they are out.