Azzurri Thread (33 Viewers)

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,037
Rossi doesn't feel Italian when he's off the pitch. The majority of his life consists of not feeling Italian. And as we all know, blood type and feeling is what matters in this discussion.

So don't hate Motta. He's a real Italian unlike the faker Rossi.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,944
England deserved more but have mediocre forwards, also Santon marshalled the defence with ease when he was on. When he went off England had most of the chances. Ferrara will be pleased though, his team were giving away in some areas and competed well.

Two Juve players decisive, which is nice.
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
17,789
Rossi doesn't feel Italian when he's off the pitch. The majority of his life consists of not feeling Italian. And as we all know, blood type and feeling is what matters in this discussion.

So don't hate Motta. He's a real Italian unlike the faker Rossi.
In which aspect is he a real Italian more than Rossi? As far as I know they both have Italian ancestry and both their grandparents immigrated. When it comes to Rossi it's slightly different since Rossi had been at Parma since he was twelve or thirtheen years old. He has an Italian name and heck I think he even grew up in an Italian(-American) atmospshere. When we come to Motta it isn't the same, he didn't spend his youth career in Italy but in Spain. He has been what two or three years in Italy, has he spend his youth career with an Italian team? If I look it from a football perspective, I can understand Rossi's desire more since he spend his youth years in Italy, Motta just came to Italy after Barca dumped him and Brazil doesn't have any desire to call him up.

I've got no problem with Rossi, but for Thiago he can bagger off along with Ledesma.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,037
In which aspect is he a real Italian more than Rossi? As far as I know they both have Italian ancestry and both their grandparents immigrated. When it comes to Rossi it's slightly different since Rossi had been at Parma since he was twelve or thirtheen years old. He has an Italian name and heck I think he even grew up in an Italian(-American) atmospshere. When we come to Motta it isn't the same, he didn't spend his youth career in Italy but in Spain. He has been what two or three years in Italy, has he spend his youth career with an Italian team? If I look it from a football perspective, I can understand Rossi's desire more since he spend his youth years in Italy, Motta just came to Italy after Barca dumped him and Brazil doesn't have any desire to call him up.
So anybody that doesn't have an Italian last name isn't Italian? What constitutes an Italian last name? Is it only the name, or is there more to the Italian identity than the name?


In the trolling aspect.
Hypocrisy deserves to be trolled. Why? Because of stuff like this.

I've got no problem with Rossi, but for Thiago he can bagger off along with Ledesma.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,944
Being a US NT supporter I can understand why you think this way. It's a good example of hypocrisy, though. Hate one man who chooses another team, embrace another (dozen), criticize those who do as you do.
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
17,789
So anybody that doesn't have an Italian last name isn't Italian? What constitutes an Italian last name? Is it only the name, or is there more to the Italian identity than the name?



Hypocrisy deserves to be trolled. Why? Because of stuff like this.
That wasn't really what I was trying to say. Apart from the name Rossi had spend his youth career/football eduaction 'till he was 17 at Parma, which is in Italy. If you look at it from a football perspective it's more than ok if you play for the NT where you had enjoyed your youth career at. When we look at Motta the it isn't a very similair case since he was at Barca, went to Atletico and when he was in his middle 20's he went to Genoa, I get your point but the situation is different.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,037
Being a US NT supporter I can understand why you think this way. It's a good example of hypocrisy, though. Hate one man who chooses another team, embrace another (dozen), criticize those who do as you do.
I'm not the hypocrite here, though. You lot are. No matter where a person is born, no matter their last name, no matter their skin color, as long as they have citizenship they are OK with me. We don't discriminate.

So what's the deal? Are you saying you shouldn't award citizenship to people based on names and skin color?
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,037
That wasn't really what I was trying to say. Apart from the name Rossi had spend his youth career/football eduaction 'till he was 17 at Parma, which is in Italy. If you look at it from a football perspective it's more than ok if you play for the NT where you had enjoyed your youth career at. When we look at Motta the it isn't a very similair case since he was at Barca, went to Atletico and when he was in his middle 20's he went to Genoa, I get your point but the situation is different.
This seems to be clutching at straws. If you're going to make the argument that someone should play for the country where they played club football and was taught the pro game, what's to say Rossi didn't learn the most while at United? Should he play for England now?
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
17,789
This seems to be clutching at straws. If you're going to make the argument that someone should play for the country where they played club football and was taught the pro game, what's to say Rossi didn't learn the most while at United? Should he play for England now?
where he was taught the most and where he entered a certain youth system where he left America for aren't the same. This discussion can be endless since it's based on feelings but I think Rossi has a more more grounded reason to play for the NT than Motta. Again, it's based on my feelings towards this dilemma.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,037
where he was taught the most and where he entered a certain youth system where he left America for aren't the same. This discussion can be endless since it's based on feelings but I think Rossi has a more more grounded reason to play for the NT than Motta. Again, it's based on my feelings towards this dilemma.
Well, with regard to youth system, Rossi did play in Olympic Development programs in the States as a child. So technically, his development started here.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 31)