Azzurri Thread (76 Viewers)

[Lion]

Are you saying it doesn't objectify women?

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[Badass J Elkann]

ventura refuses to resign omfg seriously just exterminate him and his sympathisers

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“Tonight’s game showed that there was nothing broken in the Nazionale." ventura


seriously exterminate him already

 

[Hængebøffer]

Not possible. This sort of "as long as no one gets hurt" moral relativism contains many logical flaws.

Anyways thread derailed enough, we can discuss somewhere else another time.

Can't believe Italy is out. Curse everyone for upsetting Buffon and denying him his last WC!

What? Your logic is that every woman think alike and share the same values. That’s how many modern feminists think as well. Your moral values dosen’t allow the individual to make its own choices. That’s exactly how modern extreme left wing identity politics works.

 

[Jem83]

I'm not surprised at this, I'm just sad.

A World Cup without Italy is not one I'll be watching. And for Buffon to go out like this ...

It's just sad.

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If it makes @Lion feel any better, at the very least, my stream kept shutting down... I lost at least 15 % of the game, frantically trying to reactivate streams

 

[campionesidd]

I'm not surprised at this, I'm just sad.

A World Cup without Italy is not one I'll be watching. And for Buffon to go out like this ...

It's just sad.

It's been a long time coming. When you fail to plan, you plan to fail.

 

[Sadomin]

What? Your logic is that every woman think alike and share the same values. That’s how many modern feminists think as well. Your moral values dosen’t allow the individual to make its own choices. That’s exactly how modern extreme left wing identity politics works.

Everything is about moral. You can't kill because we have collectively agreed to prohibit it, even if there are individuals who do not think alike. We do not tolerate racism because it generally hurts people, even if many offenders and victims do not mind racism on an individual level. For the same reason, Linebreak called out your sexism. Sexism is allowed, but it is quite disgusting. You can decide entirely whether you want to be smart or disgusting. It's your moral choice.

 

[Hust]

No one else wanted the job

No one in Italy or no one in the world?

 

[GiocataGrande]

What? Your logic is that every woman think alike and share the same values. That’s how many modern feminists think as well. Your moral values dosen’t allow the individual to make its own choices. That’s exactly how modern extreme left wing identity politics works.

nailed it. Hypocrites making moral codes for all of us.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Not possible. This sort of "as long as no one gets hurt" moral relativism contains many logical flaws.
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So it should just be up to you decide what is and isn't ok for other people regardless of how they, the ones affected by it, actually feel? Yea that doesn't contain flaws

 

[Salvo]

Obviously "Ace" Ventura is gone. Looked a questionable appointment from the start, turned into an absolute farce for various reasons, but his ineptitude perpetuated the difficulties. Particularly loved the part where he brought on two wingers for two wing backs with Italy causing problems in wide areas for their most dangerous attacks. Then they started pumping the ball down the middle for tree defenders to head the ball away. That was a bit special. I don't think the team has any clue what the guy wants, but look at the random selection. He's just throwing any old shit out there.

The toad Tavecchio needs to do the honourable thing and step down but he's the kind of leech you get in Italy who worm their way into high positions and then they are stuck like a limpet. At least stop appointing duds as coach of your national team. Ventura turned into an orange late-career Sven-Goran Eriksson. He might be a good mid-table club coach given a couple of seasons. I saw nothing from a motivational or tactical aspect from most of his tenure to suggest there was anything positive from the choice the FIGC made.

The only over 30s who should be in the Nazionale after this debacle are Bonucci and Chiellini, and tbh their places should be evenly contested with other players. There is a good bunch of younger players and it's time they get blooded, the tournament was a final stop off point before that anyway. That they robbed Gigi of his final tournament and caps just adds to the disgrace.

BTW this isn't a generation of players, it's a mash up of the old generation, their subs, and some new guys. You can't tell me that someone brave and with ideas can't make something out of the group of U25 players Italy have to choose from. A lot of the forwards in and around the squad have been on fire this season. Insigne didn't even get a look in, lol.

I'd be playing most of the u21 squad from here on out. De Rossi saying what the fuck are you bringing me on for, bring on Insigne pretty much sums up Ventura's Italy.

 

[Jem83]

VENTUUUUUUUUUURAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!!!

"Yes, Satan?"

@Hustini

 

[Mark]

The guy say they'd qualify. They didn't and still not resigned. lol

Tavecchio is the first to go and wait till Gigi retires and hire him ASAP.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

ventura refuses to resign omfg seriously just exterminate him and his sympathisers

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“Tonight’s game showed that there was nothing broken in the Nazionale." ventura


seriously exterminate him already

Last warning, tone down the language or get banned

 

[Linebreak]

What? Your logic is that every woman think alike and share the same values. That’s how many modern feminists think as well. Your moral values dosen’t allow the individual to make its own choices. That’s exactly how modern extreme left wing identity politics works.

Feminism has many flaws too.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I'm sure you'll find this hard to understand but I'll humour you anyway.
Objectifying women as simple sex objects as that profile pic does should never be acceptable.

 

[Linebreak]

So it should just be up to you decide what is and isn't ok for other people regardless of how they, the ones affected by it, actually feel? Yea that doesn't contain flaws

I wonder what laws are for?

The no harm principle has little legs to stand on.

 

[Jem83]

Sasha Grey forever

 

[Cerval]

The guy say they'd qualify. They didn't and still not resigned. lol

Tavecchio is the first to go and wait till Gigi retires and hire him ASAP.

Tavecchio is going to stay in position that's for sure. Chances are even Ventura could maybe stay otherwise it would appear as a bad appointment made by Tavecchio.

 

[Mark]

Tavecchio is going to stay in position that's for sure. Chances are even Ventura could maybe stay otherwise it would appear as a bad appointment made by Tavecchio.

that would be the worse thing to do.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Everything is about moral. You can't kill because we have collectively agreed to prohibit it, even if there are individuals who do not think alike. We do not tolerate racism because it generally hurts people, even if many offenders and victims do not mind racism on an individual level. For the same reason, Linebreak called out your sexism. Sexism is allowed, but it is quite disgusting. You can decide entirely whether you want to be smart or disgusting. It's your moral choice.

First of all: It's not my profile pic we're discussing.
The last part: You compare a woman freely dressed and photographed in a bikini with murder. That's just really dumb. Again. How is his picture sexism? Did she do it against her will?

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Feminism has many flaws too.

So. It's all about your morals?