Azzurri Thread (85 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

Putting a group of people in a small area makes them much easier to police than having them running around the streets around a stadium.

The other people in the stadium were kept a distance away from the Serbs, so were not in the danger they would have been with people running free outside the ground.

Once the game is over, the Serbs could be held in the ground until the surrounding streets were cleared and the police could increase their numbers in order to control the removal of them from the area.

I don't see how you can comment on this when you have no experience of attending games in Europe or how policing of away fans is done.


I don't see what else the Italians could do without prior knowledge of the planned trouble.

If they knew there was going to be trouble, they should have been better prepared.

Yep, they fenced them in, beat the fuck out of them, and then arrested them.

 

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[Luca]

But you are taking already agitated people and putting them into an even more tense setting. Its just going to make them more violent.

They were basically in quarantine, smashing a Perspex glass or cutting a net is much less worse than thousands of pounds worth of damage or people being seriously injured.
And besides it was highly unlikely that the police didn't have some sort of strategy in place when they finally let these fans out. I seriously doubt they were allowed to roam the streets in terror as you are implying.

 

[Luca]

Damn you Red, you're beating me to the point each time, I guess it's your more advanced law mind though.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

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[X Æ A-12]

They were basically in quarantine, smashing a Perspex glass or cutting a net is much less worse than thousands of pounds worth of damage or people being seriously injured.
And besides it was highly unlikely that the police didn't have some sort of strategy in place when they finally let these fans out. I seriously doubt they were allowed to roam the streets in terror as you are implying.

Where did I imply that? I'm sure the police did have a strategy for dealing with this afterward.

 

[JuveJay]

Wreck the stadium, or wreck the city. Protect the citizens outside the stadium, or protect the citizens inside the stadium. What's the difference?

About 580,000 people and 50,000 buildings.

 

[Luca]

Where did I imply that? I'm sure the police did have a strategy for dealing with this afterward.

The fact that you were mentioning a build up in aggression certainly points to the idea of the aggression being directed somewhere after the quarantine had ended.

 

[Red]

Damn you Red, you're beating me to the point each time, I guess it's your more advanced law mind though.

It ain't law.

Just common sense, as anyone who has actually gone to games will know.

 

[Luca]

It ain't law.

Just common sense, as anyone who has actually gone to games will know.

The best law is common sense.

 

[X Æ A-12]

The fact that you were mentioning a build up in aggression certainly points to the idea of the aggression being directed somewhere after the quarantine had ended.

To me it just doesn't seem like a good idea to go on with the game at that point. If you just let a bunch of potentially dangerous people without being searched into the stadium then that is putting all of the players on the field at a huge risk.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

It ain't law.

Just common sense, as anyone who has actually gone to games will know.

i think hes calling you out here Andy "bust that nigga ass word up"!!

 

[Alen]

IMO Andy should finally start saving some money, make a trip to Europe, attend one match and shut everyone's mouths once and for all.

It's been years how many of his points are being destroyed with the well known "You've never been to Europe" reply

 

[Luca]

To me it just doesn't seem like a good idea to go on with the game at that point. If you just let a bunch of potentially dangerous people without being searched into the stadium then that is putting all of the players on the field at a huge risk.

This is where I agree with you, it would have made much more sense if the stadium had been used as a quarantine only. However there have been much worse roots before the start of games and they've still been played the whole way through.

 

[Luca]

IMO Andy should finally start saving some money, make a trip to Europe, attend one match and shut everyone's mouths once and for all.

It's been years how many of his points are being destroyed with the well known "You've never been to Europe" reply

I'd actually piss myself laughing if he went to Italy and really fell in love with the people there.

 

[X Æ A-12]

This is where I agree with you, it would have made much more sense if the stadium had been used as a quarantine only. However there have been much worse roots before the start of games and they've still been played the whole way through.

Really? I can't imagine that anybody would find it ok to let this happen just shortly after the goalkeeper had already been attacked. To me there is no way you can let you can let the Serbian fans into the stadium without being searched after they assaulted one of their own players.

Somebody could have brought in a gun or something throwable that's more dangerous than a flare. I know its not likely going to happen but its not really worth the risk IMO.

 

[Luca]

Really? I can't imagine that anybody would find it ok to let this happen just shortly after the goalkeeper had already been attacked. To me there is no way you can let you can let the Serbian fans into the stadium without being searched after they assaulted one of their own players.

Somebody could have brought in a gun or something throwable that's more dangerous than a flare. I know its not likely going to happen but its not really worth the risk IMO.

Roma v Middlesbro in the UEFA cup.
Fans were surrounded in a piazza and stabbed, yet a game is played on.
I'm not trying to justify it as im totally against it but show you examples where worse things have happened and yet a game has been played.

 

[j0ker]

http://www.ilmessaggero.it/articolo_app.php?id=33334&sez=HOME_INITALIA&npl&desc_sez

They sent him where he belongs, a women prison.

 

[Alen]

http://www.ilmessaggero.it/articolo_app.php?id=33334&sez=HOME_INITALIA&npl&desc_sez

They sent him where he belongs, a women prison.

There is one part for male prisoners in that jail. But he wasn't sent in the Marassi prison because there were too many Albanians there

 

[j0ker]

There is one part for male prisoners in that jail. But he wasn't sent in the Marassi prison because there were too many Albanians there

I would really like to see him in prison acting brave and burning flags like he was in the stands.

 

[Alen]

I would really like to see him in prison acting brave and burning flags like he was in the stands.

He'd probably do that too. Don't underestimate the stupidity of these people. The media will try to picture them as cowards, but they're simply idiots.
He'd act brave in the prison too and probably get killed or kill someone.

Btw, in the Marassi prison there were, apparently, too many Albanians (who knew these guy burnt their flag), too many Italians (who saw what the ultras did) and too many Serbs.
Can you imagine what was going to happen if they put this dude in that prison?

Btw, it's astonishing how every single prison in Europe is full of Balkans