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Nothing to do with Inda core or JJ core. This team just plain sucks. An outdated footballing country with outdated philosophy and outdated footballing infrastructure.
Yeah, every now and then you can fluke your way to a Euro or see your clubs participate in a CL final but the writing's on the wall.
Besides that, Shitaly has a large immigrant population yet cannot produce the calibre of a player like Yamal or a Doue.
I can see this team falling further behind and being at the level of tier 2 nations for another good decade or two.
On a sidenote, I will be shocked if Spain and/or France don't win world cups in the next 10 year cycle. Those two pre-historic world cups won in Mussolini era look too flattering towards Italy.
Yeah, every now and then you can fluke your way to a Euro or see your clubs participate in a CL final but the writing's on the wall.
Besides that, Shitaly has a large immigrant population yet cannot produce the calibre of a player like Yamal or a Doue.
I can see this team falling further behind and being at the level of tier 2 nations for another good decade or two.
On a sidenote, I will be shocked if Spain and/or France don't win world cups in the next 10 year cycle. Those two pre-historic world cups won in Mussolini era look too flattering towards Italy.
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Italy would probably have more World Cups than Brazil if not for WW2 and the almost-unbeatable Grande Torino team being wiped out in the plane crash. That team pretty much made up the bulk of Italy during that time (with a Juve goalkeeper lol).
You can’t just discount trophies won from another era, it doesn’t work that way. Just because they’re shit now (clearly) it wasn’t always this way, and they have been one of the few genuine world football powers and have the history and heritage to back it up.
I agree with the rest of your post in regards to Italy’s current problems. I don’t think anything will change any time soon either.
You can’t just discount trophies won from another era, it doesn’t work that way. Just because they’re shit now (clearly) it wasn’t always this way, and they have been one of the few genuine world football powers and have the history and heritage to back it up.
I agree with the rest of your post in regards to Italy’s current problems. I don’t think anything will change any time soon either.
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Probably should have been sacked after Euro 2024. Clearly not up to the job and he seems as crazy, stubborn and frazzled as he was in Inter and late-stage Roma days.
Italy’s problems go way deeper than who sits on the bench. We all know what they are, but we also all know absolutely nothing will be done to even attempt to fix the many issues in the governance, culture and general way that the sport is currently practiced in that country.
Italy’s problems go way deeper than who sits on the bench. We all know what they are, but we also all know absolutely nothing will be done to even attempt to fix the many issues in the governance, culture and general way that the sport is currently practiced in that country.
Also, I’m glad that there weren’t any Juventus players on the field for this disaster. It pretty much sums up modern-day Azzurri teams too.
No strong Juventus core = shithouse Italy.
So people always whining about us getting rid of Italian players, consider this: we don’t keep them or have many of them - even tho it’s been our tradition to always have the best ones - because currently they are of a mediocre level. It’s that simple. That’s why the Fagioli’s, Miretti’s and Rovella that we owned are sold or loaned out.
No strong Juventus core = shithouse Italy.
So people always whining about us getting rid of Italian players, consider this: we don’t keep them or have many of them - even tho it’s been our tradition to always have the best ones - because currently they are of a mediocre level. It’s that simple. That’s why the Fagioli’s, Miretti’s and Rovella that we owned are sold or loaned out.
there are multiple inaccurate takes in this post, like the one ser b_aus addressed, and like this one:
italy was the best team of euro 2020 and the pre-tournament period. it was the last wow of chiellini and bonucci, and their win could have been easier with spinazzola who had an excellent run until his injury. and it wasn't just a few good weeks, that team was unbeaten for years and on the top of the rankings iirc. same with juventus and our two cl finals. that team was 3rd on the uefa coefficient rankings and was only beaten by barcelona, real and bayern between 2014 and 2018, and some of those losses came after unlucky episodes
same with italy (baggio's penalty, or the home loss to argentina on penalties in 90)
italy is one of the best footballing nations, regardless of their current bad situation. when they make the final, it's usually not a fluke.
italy was the best team of euro 2020 and the pre-tournament period. it was the last wow of chiellini and bonucci, and their win could have been easier with spinazzola who had an excellent run until his injury. and it wasn't just a few good weeks, that team was unbeaten for years and on the top of the rankings iirc. same with juventus and our two cl finals. that team was 3rd on the uefa coefficient rankings and was only beaten by barcelona, real and bayern between 2014 and 2018, and some of those losses came after unlucky episodes
same with italy (baggio's penalty, or the home loss to argentina on penalties in 90)
italy is one of the best footballing nations, regardless of their current bad situation. when they make the final, it's usually not a fluke.
Riva only played 42 games.
Italy had lots of competition in the forward areas, that is why. How old are you? Surely you remember Totti vs Del Piero? Players like Zola barely getting a game.
Italy would kill for any of these guys from 30 years ago now. With the decline in defending and in the league in general I'd say it was inevitable. When you have players like Retegui and Immobile who can score for fun why would they need to be any better?
Italy had lots of competition in the forward areas, that is why. How old are you? Surely you remember Totti vs Del Piero? Players like Zola barely getting a game.
Italy would kill for any of these guys from 30 years ago now. With the decline in defending and in the league in general I'd say it was inevitable. When you have players like Retegui and Immobile who can score for fun why would they need to be any better?
Yep. They were really good from early 2019 until the Euro win. Still hold the world record for the longest undefeated streak in international football.
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Guys like Paolo Di Canio and Benito Carbone who couldn’t sniff the NT back in the early to mid 90s, would be nailed-on starters upfront now lol.
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Guys like Paolo Di Canio and Benito Carbone who couldn’t sniff the NT back in the early to mid 90s, would be nailed-on starters upfront now lol.
Gravina and FIGC have been riding on that 2021 win for far too long. If he had any ounce of integrity that merdista fossil would've stepped down after macedonia in 2022 just as Tavecchio did in 2017, or if not then after the last euro embarassment (along with spaletti), yet that fucker won re-election with 99% of the votes in February. Just a completely backwards and corrupt organization.
Fluked all of those games.
There are some good signs on the horizon as the U17 and U19 teams have been very good in recent times and you're starting to see the first of those guys come through in Leoni. But the current situation is desperate. Spalletti is also a coach who has never inspired me with confidence.
There are some good signs on the horizon as the U17 and U19 teams have been very good in recent times and you're starting to see the first of those guys come through in Leoni. But the current situation is desperate. Spalletti is also a coach who has never inspired me with confidence.
