Arturo Vidal (50 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

This page is a magnificent example of the lack of knowledge about why italian teams are/were good at defending. And why people dont understand marchisio or pirlo for example.

People think "oh this vidal, he is good at aggression and intercepting so he is a good defender"
But people forget, what then makes the diffrence between midfielder and defender?

Midfielders, whilst able to cover gabs and keep the place locked down, generally are facing much open space. Vidal only has to consider not running out of position, and can charge whoever in his area since pirlo and pogba close the gab, and to a lesser extend, lichtsteiner and barzagli.

In this counterattacking game, the defence was kinda working in the same way, with movement, a counter with 2/3 players and done.


Thing is, actual defending is entirely diffrent. Its not about intercepting, that comes second. First, you need to position yourself against trough balls and player movement and against shots. Something a midfielder usually doesnt have to do. Its keeping the shape , controll the space as a unit first. Then anticipate opponents.

 

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[Rufio]

So you're saying that he always played as CB. Thanks for the input.

 

[Salvatore]

And Batistuta, he used to fucking rape the net when he shot pks hehe.

Fucking this.

 

[Rufio]

This page is a magnificent example of the lack of knowledge about why italian teams are/were good at defending. And why people dont understand marchisio or pirlo for example.

People think "oh this vidal, he is good at aggression and intercepting so he is a good defender"
But people forget, what then makes the diffrence between midfielder and defender?

Midfielders, whilst able to cover gabs and keep the place locked down, generally are facing much open space. Vidal only has to consider not running out of position, and can charge whoever in his area since pirlo and pogba close the gab, and to a lesser extend, lichtsteiner and barzagli.

In this counterattacking game, the defence was kinda working in the same way, with movement, a counter with 2/3 players and done.


Thing is, actual defending is entirely diffrent. Its not about intercepting, that comes second. First, you need to position yourself against trough balls and player movement and against shots. Something a midfielder usually doesnt have to do. Its keeping the shape , controll the space as a unit first. Then anticipate opponents.

Ans this is why Arturo could go either way because his absolute tactical skill is positioning.

 

[Zacheryah]

Vidal is extremely allrounded, but positionning is his least good ability

 

[KingGale]

At least people misunderstand Vidal but still think he's great. Recently though the trend around here is to misjudge Marchisio and think he's bad all of a sudden.

 

[Vlad]

At least people misunderstand Vidal but still think he's great. Recently though the trend around here is to misjudge Marchisio and think he's bad all of a sudden.

He was always bad.

 

[KingGale]

You're delusional.

 

[Bianconero81]

This page is a magnificent example of the lack of knowledge about why italian teams are/were good at defending. And why people dont understand marchisio or pirlo for example.

People think "oh this vidal, he is good at aggression and intercepting so he is a good defender"
But people forget, what then makes the diffrence between midfielder and defender?

Midfielders, whilst able to cover gabs and keep the place locked down, generally are facing much open space. Vidal only has to consider not running out of position, and can charge whoever in his area since pirlo and pogba close the gab, and to a lesser extend, lichtsteiner and barzagli.

In this counterattacking game, the defence was kinda working in the same way, with movement, a counter with 2/3 players and done.


Thing is, actual defending is entirely diffrent. Its not about intercepting, that comes second. First, you need to position yourself against trough balls and player movement and against shots. Something a midfielder usually doesnt have to do. Its keeping the shape , controll the space as a unit first. Then anticipate opponents.

 

[Elvin]

I love his kind of penalties.

I hate seeing penalties taken where the keeper basically has a 50-50 chance of saving it because he'll get to it if he guesses correctly.

I'm not even all that keen on the Balotelli style disguised/waiting for the keeper to move type penalties.

If you are a good striker of a ball, you should be able to either place the ball well enough or hit the ball hard enough that what the keeper does is an irrelevance - he has no chance of saving the penalty whatever he does.

For that reason, I'd be pretty tolerant of Vidal inevitably, sooner or later, hitting the post or the bar or putting one over the bar.

Obviously you'd hope it wouldn't be a very important penalty it happens with, though.

you're right, it is more spectacular and less risky than Balo / Figo approach.
But I still prefer DP's approach of unpredictability... been following him for 13 years still have no idea how he'll decide to take it (FKs included). For example in CL final he waited for Dida, in WC final he just placed it perfectly.

 

[Rufio]

Vidal is extremely allrounded, but positionning is his least good ability

Clearly we don't watch the same player then (check a Chile game)

When you have a DM always following the ball, gettin passes, controlling midfield, shooting, going back for the rival's counter, and pick it up from 1/4 and start playing again I call that good positioning.

Check out his off the ball movements when we have the ball and when we dont.

 

[Hust]

positioning is Vidals least good ability?


wut?

 

[Lorenzo Juve]

I LOVE YOU ARTURO! DON'T EVER LEAVE US!

 

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[Ocelot]

Artouuuuuro

VIDAL!

 

[Amer]

Arturo

First hat-trick.

 

[Rufio]

 

[Vlad]

Our best player

 

[gagych]

 

[donpiero]

OMFG Hat-trickkkkkkkkk