Arturo Vidal (74 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

10 goals and 4 assists so far. That's just insane.

 

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[Sheik Yerbouti]

He surpassed Zidane in number of goals for Juve, 32 vs 31. And against Udinese it'll be his 100th game.

Did Serie A have 18 or 20 teams when Zidane played for us?

 

[Salvatore]

18 teams.

I've counted 19 assists @ Juve for Vidal. Top player.

 

[Rufio]

He surpassed Zidane in number of goals for Juve, 32 vs 31. And against Udinese it'll be his 100th game.

and Zidane played for 5 seasons. Arturo only 2 and a half

And last but not least.....he's a fuckin' DM!

 

[Cuti]

Vidal does give all our penalties though. When Zidane was with us, he had others ahead of him (Del Piero etc)

 

[Salvatore]

I remember Zidane taking a few penalties in Italy, but they were shared around more. I doubt Zidane has 12 like Vidal.

 

[Elvin]

as if scoring penalties is easy anyway.

 

[Raz]

as if scoring penalties is easy anyway.

Have you tried?

 

[Elvin]

Balotelli tries lately.

 

[Raz]

http://www.penaltyshootouts.co.uk/research.html

For a professional, who is used to taking them, it seems it's not that hard to do.

 

[piotrr]

Vidal
Nr of goals for Juve overall: 32 (20 + 12penalties) in 99 appearances
goals/app overall = 0.3232
goals/app without pens = 0.202

Penalties during Vidals period at Juve:
11/12 - 4 ; 12/13 - 12 ; 13/14 - 6
overall 22 pens ;
Taken by Vidal: 14penalties => 14/22 = 63.63% of all
Scored by Vidal: 12/14 = 85.7% conversion rate

Zidane
Nr of goals for Juve overall: 31 (29 + 2 penalties) in 212 appearances
goals/app overall = 0.146
goals/app without pens = 0.137

During Zidanes period:
96/97 - 11 ; 97/98 - 13 ; 98/99 - 5 ; 99/00 - 11 ; 00/01 - 7
overall 47 penalties;
Scored by Zidane: 2/4 = 50% conversion rate

using Vidal's rates:
47*0.6363 = 29.9 so let's say Zidane would take 30 penalties
30*0.857=25.71 so ~26 scored

using Zidane conv rate:
30*0.5=15


Ergo:
Zidane scored 31 goals for Juve and only 2 of them were penalties (2 out of 4 attempts - conversion rate 50%). If we would add his non-penalties goals (29) to possible penalty goals calculated using Vidal's rates (26) he would be far ahead: 29+26 = 55goals. Same thing using Zidane's conv rate: 29+15=44goals.
Zidane's Juve received almost two times more penalties though, so trying to calculate Zidane's possible stats using the same nr of penalties as Vidal's Juve received:
22*0.6363=14penalties
using Vidal's conv rate = 12 scored -> 29+12=41 goals
using Zidane's = 7 scored -> 29+7=36 goals

As we can see Zidane would have more goals than Vidal in all cases if he would be the penalty taker.
The good news for Vidal is that his non-pen goals/app is a lot higher so there's no other scenario that he'll surpass even Zidane's possible goals sooner or later




PS Yes i'm bored.
@Alen you like stats.

Stats taken from http://www.myjuve.it/index_en.aspx

 

[Cuti]

Wasn't taking anything away from Vidal, whether its a goal from half pitch or from a penalty, it still is worth the same.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Zidane - Vidal comparison

 

[Tevez10]

Zidane - Vidal comparison

What's wrong, aren't you the one who always use stats to make your arguments?
32>31 ?

 

[.zero]

All these comparisons are typical signs of the crowning syndrome. Next week folks will be drowning the same players they crowned.

 

[am0110]

He surpassed Zidane in number of goals for Juve, 32 vs 31. And against Udinese it'll be his 100th game.

He is our best "striker" under Conte

 

[Amer]

It will be between him and Chiellini for the Capitano role after Gigi retires. I really can't see Vidal leaving this club ever.

 

[Gian]

Vidal does stuff Zidane can only dream about

 

[JuveJay]

Vidal does stuff Zidane can only dream about

So does Buffon.

 

[Klin]

Vidal does stuff Zidane can only dream about

Gian.