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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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They did mention the contract extension (to 2026).
i don't understand the reason why they extended that contract. yeah it does save a few millions per season, that's all right. but is it worth compromising an additional budget because of it? you really should be in the same room with those people who made that call to understand where this is coming from. will arthur get his current salary spread over that 3 year period? I that case i'm fine with it obviously, otherwise it just doesn't make too much sense
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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i don't understand the reason why they extended that contract. yeah it does save a few millions per season, that's all right. but is it worth compromising an additional budget because of it? you really should be in the same room with those people who made that call to understand where this is coming from. will arthur get his current salary spread over that 3 year period? I that case i'm fine with it obviously, otherwise it just doesn't make too much sense
I don't think there is another reason for renewal with a dumping of contract.
Lowering Arthur annual costs that right now are 22-23m/year while with this renewal they might go down to 15-16 per year.

Everything in hope that a 26years old manage to land a normal season and someone willing to buy him for a sum that allow us to not make a loss
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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we made the most stupid deal ever and you're still the only one defending it

trying to find positives in that deal is like saying "yeah, he chopped his own dick off - but he washed his teeth before!"
Put it this way, we had to somehow recover losses, selling cancelo wasnt enough who else was there? This was the only way and may I remind you Arthur at the time was a regular starter under Pirlo which wouldn't necessarily have been the case under a ever declining Pjanic
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Do we think that it's actually realistic he will play well enough for Fiorentina to pay the €20m for him? It's extreme optimism at the least from our board.

All I know is that if he has a brilliant season then the problem was Allegri.
 

Scottish

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Mar 13, 2011
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Do we think that it's actually realistic he will play well enough for Fiorentina to pay the €20m for him? It's extreme optimism at the least from our board.

All I know is that if he has a brilliant season then the problem was Allegri.
He won't hit the threshold. We are the only club dumb enough to play useless players enough to trigger extensions or sales clauses.
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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Put it this way, we had to somehow recover losses, selling cancelo wasnt enough who else was there? This was the only way and may I remind you Arthur at the time was a regular starter under Pirlo which wouldn't necessarily have been the case under a ever declining Pjanic
Stop, just stop a minute and look where you are. Look where you've ended up...you're defending the Arthur signing. Is that where you want to be? Get help
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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Do we think that it's actually realistic he will play well enough for Fiorentina to pay the €20m for him? It's extreme optimism at the least from our board.

All I know is that if he has a brilliant season then the problem was Allegri.
Arthur having a brilliant season would be a miracle, probably of a similar magnitude to Ranieri winning EPL with Leicester in charge.

Allegri being a problem is pretty obvious to me, I dont think we need miracles to confirm that.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
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Stop, just stop a minute and look where you are. Look where you've ended up...you're defending the Arthur signing. Is that where you want to be? Get help
no you stop and actually learn to read

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yeah i wish we had lord paratici and we could continue overpaying both seller clubs and agents so that we'd have much more unsellable duds like arthur

all hail lord paratici :delpiero:
what and its better to be stuck with a declining and older pjanic and be -50 in the red still?
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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The Arthur deal is a very underrated one imo. Not only we got rid of our last good mid, who was otherwise unsellable, we also got back a potential Xaviesta about to enter his prime. Paratici outdid himself there, but some unlucky unpredictable things like COVID really screwed us over. He was building the next 2013-2018 Real otherwise
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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We had to balance the books somehow right? How was it not necessary? What's the alternative? You seem to know what we should have done instead
we had to balance the books because we signed ronaldo, we signed way too many duds so results started to fade and started to overpay our players. you seem to forget that paratici brought back bonucci on high wages, raised the salary of tek, sandro, rugani, extended with mandzukic, khedira, signed useless ramsey, expensive de ligt (good signing but still fucking expensive), while he couldn't even sell dybala, who was a proper player with actual market value back then. the whole squad was unsustainable under your idol, that's the first thing you have to keep in mind.

still, it doesn't mean that juve had to pay 80m for fucking arthur. it wasn't the only option. barcelona wanted pjanic for years, psg also wanted him, we could have sold him plain and simple. yes, the fee would have been significantly lower, so what. not only half legged pjanic was a superior player to injury prone, unprofessional arthur, the costs of that deal are unforgivable. we also had a squad full of players with actual market value, including dybala, ronaldo, de ligt, sandro, bentancur, demiral or even rabiot. downsizing instead of further increasing the costs of the squad when covid hit the whole football was an incredibly dumb decision. it was already explained on tuz countless times how these stupid plusvalenza driven deals only defer the costs to following years, so only offer short term semi solutions to much longer issues.

so the club had to balance the books, but not by the dumbest deal ever. if you can't see in 2023 how signing arthur was a terribly bad deal then there's really nothing to add
 

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