are we a clean and honest club? (3 Viewers)
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You know lately milanista, romanista ..etc are trying to convince as that Moggi is more powerful than Berlusconi. To tell you the truth, thats a compliment to us..
But seriously speaking we have a saying in arabia: if your house is built from glass to through stones at others.
For two consecutive season Milan fail to acheive in the CL and have the scudetto race as the final hope of winning a silverware what happens?
- Doping cases x 5 years old, cannavaro's x 6 years old videos, ibra ban last season
- Moggi manipulating ref decisions x 2 years old, scandals about Giraudo and transfers x 4 years old ..etc this season.
Both at a delicate point of the scudetto race, last season around the Milan V Juve game which they lost and this season around the last 2 games of the season because whoever loses a game the other will be crowned winners. Coincidence, I don't think so. Do you see Juve going to the press talking shit about other clubs? No. Why? because we are better than them.
But seriously speaking we have a saying in arabia: if your house is built from glass to through stones at others.
For two consecutive season Milan fail to acheive in the CL and have the scudetto race as the final hope of winning a silverware what happens?
- Doping cases x 5 years old, cannavaro's x 6 years old videos, ibra ban last season
- Moggi manipulating ref decisions x 2 years old, scandals about Giraudo and transfers x 4 years old ..etc this season.
Both at a delicate point of the scudetto race, last season around the Milan V Juve game which they lost and this season around the last 2 games of the season because whoever loses a game the other will be crowned winners. Coincidence, I don't think so. Do you see Juve going to the press talking shit about other clubs? No. Why? because we are better than them.
d.nico said:
They are fool and ridiculous. If Moggi is more powerful than Berlusconi, he will become Pime Minister of Italy and Juve will win scudetto and Milan will down to seri-c because of scandal. 
Very true we are better. and they will use all they have to beat us. :faq1:
But at the end we will win!
Very true we are better. and they will use all they have to beat us. :faq1:
But at the end we will win!
Yes the Agnelli's are powerful but so are the Berlusconi's. We did not buy any league.. We are winning with the sweat of our players. When Vialli lifted the CL trophy it was because the whole team from Toreccelli to Moggi have sacrificed everything for it. They worked day and night for it. We also lifted the supercup and the intercontinintal cup. WE TESTED NEGATIVE FOR DOPING so it was not drugs. Don't tell me we alos bought the eufa directors as well??
Afterwords we continue to reach the semi final and the finals. We were not succeful to win the CL on three ocassions.. We continue to be a big threate to any team in europe and usually who managed to knock Juve out of the CL race ends up winning the CL.. Why is that do you think? Dormund in 97, Real in 98, ManU in 99, Milan in 2003, Liverpool in 2005 and maybe just maybe its also Arsenal in 2006.
So don't come saying we are buying leagues and stuff. Why do you think Moggi is too secretive about his transfers? Is it because he is blackmailing the players and agencies, or is it because he is trying hard not to let anyone know which player is he after so he can snatch him at the lowest price possible BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE FUNDING FROM BERLUSCONI NOR MORATTI AS MILAN AND INTER DO. It is a fact because of limited budget Juve always run after worthy players, so whenever clubs like Real, Milan, Chelsea ..etc know that Juve are running after a player they will consider participating in the race. Thats why moggi is doing his smoke screens every year..
Till today, all cases that Juve we acused for were all dismissed not for lack of evidence but rather by proving Juve are truely innocents.
Why is it that almost all players/coaches that shared sweat with Juve management talk highly about them even after leaving them. If your discussion is valid then legends like Ferrara, Conte, Deschamps, Zidane, Del Piero, Baggio, Peruzzi, Vialli, Ravanelli, DiLivio ..etc are all bunch of liers and are not worthy of their titles and fame. Most of those player played for not only Juve. Ferrara for an example played for Napoli and Juve both under the supervision of Moggi, he speaks highly of him. Baggio played for Fiorentina, Milan, Juve ..etc Despite not liking Lippi alot (personal problems) he always speaks highly of Juve. In all interviews with Zidane when he was asked about management he always said that Juve's management are the best he has ever delt with.
So all those players are liers. Most of those players do not play for Juve anymore so why lie? Is Moggi still blackmailing them?
Come on guys!! This is non-sence.
What is more logical, Moggi who is controlling everyone in the world and has money to buy all people and put them in his payrole which does not explain Juve's success before he arrived? OR Juventus who has been founded in 1897 and is a great club ever since. Always having top class players and always trying to compete for top prizes whatever the management is.
What seems more logical to you?
Afterwords we continue to reach the semi final and the finals. We were not succeful to win the CL on three ocassions.. We continue to be a big threate to any team in europe and usually who managed to knock Juve out of the CL race ends up winning the CL.. Why is that do you think? Dormund in 97, Real in 98, ManU in 99, Milan in 2003, Liverpool in 2005 and maybe just maybe its also Arsenal in 2006.
So don't come saying we are buying leagues and stuff. Why do you think Moggi is too secretive about his transfers? Is it because he is blackmailing the players and agencies, or is it because he is trying hard not to let anyone know which player is he after so he can snatch him at the lowest price possible BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE FUNDING FROM BERLUSCONI NOR MORATTI AS MILAN AND INTER DO. It is a fact because of limited budget Juve always run after worthy players, so whenever clubs like Real, Milan, Chelsea ..etc know that Juve are running after a player they will consider participating in the race. Thats why moggi is doing his smoke screens every year..
Till today, all cases that Juve we acused for were all dismissed not for lack of evidence but rather by proving Juve are truely innocents.
Why is it that almost all players/coaches that shared sweat with Juve management talk highly about them even after leaving them. If your discussion is valid then legends like Ferrara, Conte, Deschamps, Zidane, Del Piero, Baggio, Peruzzi, Vialli, Ravanelli, DiLivio ..etc are all bunch of liers and are not worthy of their titles and fame. Most of those player played for not only Juve. Ferrara for an example played for Napoli and Juve both under the supervision of Moggi, he speaks highly of him. Baggio played for Fiorentina, Milan, Juve ..etc Despite not liking Lippi alot (personal problems) he always speaks highly of Juve. In all interviews with Zidane when he was asked about management he always said that Juve's management are the best he has ever delt with.
So all those players are liers. Most of those players do not play for Juve anymore so why lie? Is Moggi still blackmailing them?
Come on guys!! This is non-sence.
What is more logical, Moggi who is controlling everyone in the world and has money to buy all people and put them in his payrole which does not explain Juve's success before he arrived? OR Juventus who has been founded in 1897 and is a great club ever since. Always having top class players and always trying to compete for top prizes whatever the management is.
What seems more logical to you?
How about Robert baggio to take Moggi's place? He is clean, very much respected and beloved in world football. i am assuming he will know a good player with loads of potential , loves to hunt in Argentina , so instead of shooting animals, he might be looking at footballers, good prospects in that country and the clincher for me, is that he will have very fond memories of Capello benching him at Milan. so it might be payback time
Baggio? isn't he too young and unexperienced to take the job? I see a lot of ex players' names are mentioned, like Conte, Ferrara, Dechamps, Vialli. we can't Give the control of this club to young guys like them.
Baggio could make a good scout thou, and a little smaller than general directror's position would be good. But does Baggio's heart beats for Juve? after all the treatments he recievced?
Baggio could make a good scout thou, and a little smaller than general directror's position would be good. But does Baggio's heart beats for Juve? after all the treatments he recievced?
Inexperienced? What experience do you need to do Moggi's job? Baggio is already qualified as on his Cv it says bonafide superstar, what else do you need? Is it to negotiate with clubs about selling of players, its baggio. I am not saying he should manage the team and lets not overrate what Moggi does at all. Heart beat for the club? What heart beat did Moggi have prior to joining Juve? Dominic, Baggio loves football, he is not just gonna disappear from it altogether and its not like you are him asking to be manager or coach
no need for experince? Denco, you really think doing a business like this in a big club like Juve is that simple? :faq1:
how are you so positive that baggio can run this business? what did he do in business? it's not about super stars, it's about the skills. I am started to think that you were really serious when you wanted to be a directorumpkin:
Moggi's heart didn't beat for Juve maybe, but he had a big career before he joined Juve, he didn't picked randomly from street
Baggio, Conte, Ferrara and others can be good scouts or assistants, but definitly not good directors, not yet at least..
how are you so positive that baggio can run this business? what did he do in business? it's not about super stars, it's about the skills. I am started to think that you were really serious when you wanted to be a director
umpkin: Moggi's heart didn't beat for Juve maybe, but he had a big career before he joined Juve, he didn't picked randomly from street
Baggio, Conte, Ferrara and others can be good scouts or assistants, but definitly not good directors, not yet at least..
i have to agree with snoop on this one.
being a director in this club is not abt being a good footballer, its about being a good footballer as well as a good businessman. He should know wat to say to the press, run the club, deal with players etc...
mybe few years later we could use conte,ferrara and baggio but at the moment i dont think so.
being a director in this club is not abt being a good footballer, its about being a good footballer as well as a good businessman. He should know wat to say to the press, run the club, deal with players etc...
mybe few years later we could use conte,ferrara and baggio but at the moment i dont think so.
Oh here i was thinking we were seriously thinking of the credibility of the club to remove the stench and stigma that the likes of moggi have attached to it. Baggio has been in football for more than 20 years, you think in that time, he would not have picked up a few things on scouting, on developing young players and how is negotiating with other clubs and dealing with agents such a difficult job? I was just suggesting his name but like everything put forward to ou guys, you want to keep status quo hiding behind the innocent until proven guilty spiel. If it smells like and tastes like then it is shit. Too much garbage has been attached tothis club and they cannot sure be innocent of everything for goodness sakes. Yes the timing is suspicious and no doubt there is a lot of mischief going on but you cannot hide from the fact that strange goings on are happening at this club
Speaking of Capello, why does his stay or go depend on the triade? He should commit to the club regardless of what happens and how can you support someone who is there just ofr the money and his heart aint in it? If you do not know, he was negotiating with Inter beforehe came to us and he only chose us because he said and i cite "Inter were dragging there feet". Now everyday he encourages silly rumours eithe real madrid or England or united or now Inter. He even babyishly siad Real came for him before they went to Ancelotti
Speaking of Capello, why does his stay or go depend on the triade? He should commit to the club regardless of what happens and how can you support someone who is there just ofr the money and his heart aint in it? If you do not know, he was negotiating with Inter beforehe came to us and he only chose us because he said and i cite "Inter were dragging there feet". Now everyday he encourages silly rumours eithe real madrid or England or united or now Inter. He even babyishly siad Real came for him before they went to Ancelotti
Denco, you can't expect the coaches to be loyal to the club or a true Juventino, not everyone is like Lippi. they are professionals, they can quit the moment they feel have to. I am not defending Capello here, but it's no sense to talk about his loyalty to the club. I tell you he is not Loyal, and nothing wrong in that. But the directors are another subject.
I feel everyone will leave at the end of this season, Capello is not wanted by the players, that's how I feel. and the board seems likely to change, I don't think they still have courage to stay here anymore, after what is happening now. If they have a little love to this club, in which I think they do, they will leave for club's sake.
I hope justice will be served, and only the guilties will be punished. thou I don't know how much is fair to relegate a club Like Juve to serie B or lower , because of it's "dirty" Directors..
I feel everyone will leave at the end of this season, Capello is not wanted by the players, that's how I feel. and the board seems likely to change, I don't think they still have courage to stay here anymore, after what is happening now. If they have a little love to this club, in which I think they do, they will leave for club's sake.
I hope justice will be served, and only the guilties will be punished. thou I don't know how much is fair to relegate a club Like Juve to serie B or lower , because of it's "dirty" Directors..
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