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No, they're not irrelevant. But they're also not necessarily anything to get worried about - at all. Those Alessio and Carrera comments just mirror what Conte has already said: that he hasn't sat down with upper management yet, to discuss their future together.
That is certainly not surprising, considering that we just won the Scudetto (some celebrations, etc.) and the fact that there are still 3 weeks left in the season.
There are always 'exit' meetings at the end of the season, between management, management/players, etc., etc., to make sure everybody is on the same page. Just give these guys a little bit of breathing room, yeah?
Considering Conte has well exceeded the board's initial expectations, and our financial situation is in good order, it makes sense that he's going to be able to go back to management and ask for a little bit more than they may have anticipated a year ago. Everybody has to be in sync, these things need to be copacetic.
How do you know he'll be asking for more money? That's a pretty new contract he's got now, he's being rewarded fairly well. These meetings, imo, are definitely about the strategy for player acquisitions, they're going to be about our available budget; Conte's using his well earned leverage a bit, and it will probably work out in him getting the players he wants.
I highly doubt he's after Llorente, Higuain, and Jovetic all in the same window, bud. However, in that article he mentioned Bayern's strategy for player acquisitions (carefully targeted players, and the youth system). This, at least to me, means fewer and likely more expensive purchases - as one would expect from a club of Juve's stature - which is a shift away from the volume strategy of the past few years. But this was always coming; Beppe isn't stupid enough to think that a club as successful as our would continue to require so many changes each year.
The club is in an excellent position, atm, I supremely doubt this is going to turn into some Deschamps style situation.
That is certainly not surprising, considering that we just won the Scudetto (some celebrations, etc.) and the fact that there are still 3 weeks left in the season.
There are always 'exit' meetings at the end of the season, between management, management/players, etc., etc., to make sure everybody is on the same page. Just give these guys a little bit of breathing room, yeah?
Considering Conte has well exceeded the board's initial expectations, and our financial situation is in good order, it makes sense that he's going to be able to go back to management and ask for a little bit more than they may have anticipated a year ago. Everybody has to be in sync, these things need to be copacetic.
How do you know he'll be asking for more money? That's a pretty new contract he's got now, he's being rewarded fairly well. These meetings, imo, are definitely about the strategy for player acquisitions, they're going to be about our available budget; Conte's using his well earned leverage a bit, and it will probably work out in him getting the players he wants.
I highly doubt he's after Llorente, Higuain, and Jovetic all in the same window, bud. However, in that article he mentioned Bayern's strategy for player acquisitions (carefully targeted players, and the youth system). This, at least to me, means fewer and likely more expensive purchases - as one would expect from a club of Juve's stature - which is a shift away from the volume strategy of the past few years. But this was always coming; Beppe isn't stupid enough to think that a club as successful as our would continue to require so many changes each year.
The club is in an excellent position, atm, I supremely doubt this is going to turn into some Deschamps style situation.
All you said makes sense.
Thing is. Conte is already the highest payed manager in Italy. He signed a new contract not long ago. In these situations, managers are more assertive and just say they'll stay and get together to plan the next season.
Conte has given many erractic or misterious answers this season, regarding his future. It's not 1 or 2. It's a lot. He probably received a huge offer from one of these damn oil clubs during the season.
It's all speculation, sure, but it makes sense to me.
The source that says Agnelli already agreed to pay him 5M/season and there will be another meeting in one week to discuss a bigger role to be played by Conte within the club, out of the pitch:
http://www.vecchiasignora.com/topic...-e-piu-autonomia-tra-una-settimana-lincontro/
Sources: GdS, Tuttosport, La Stampa
Thing is. Conte is already the highest payed manager in Italy. He signed a new contract not long ago. In these situations, managers are more assertive and just say they'll stay and get together to plan the next season.
Conte has given many erractic or misterious answers this season, regarding his future. It's not 1 or 2. It's a lot. He probably received a huge offer from one of these damn oil clubs during the season.
It's all speculation, sure, but it makes sense to me.
The source that says Agnelli already agreed to pay him 5M/season and there will be another meeting in one week to discuss a bigger role to be played by Conte within the club, out of the pitch:
http://www.vecchiasignora.com/topic...-e-piu-autonomia-tra-una-settimana-lincontro/
Sources: GdS, Tuttosport, La Stampa
Translating the title: Agnelli, primo sì a Conte: ingaggio a 5 mln. Ma ora Antonio, oltre ai rinforzi, chiede un nuovo staff e più autonomia. Tra una settimana l'incontro
Agnelli, first yes to Conte: salary at 5M. But now Antonio, besides the new signings, asks for a new staff and more authonomy (power). Next meeting in one week
Agnelli, first yes to Conte: salary at 5M. But now Antonio, besides the new signings, asks for a new staff and more authonomy (power). Next meeting in one week
A good assumption.
The past two years, Beppe tring to bring in players that could fit into conte's system, but mostly were economically ideal.
On the other hands, conte had to reshape his team in order to accustom those new players to the most ideal formation.
Now is a time in wich we can sign 1 premium quality player each year. And now obviously, conte wants to have a say, so the purchases fit his formation the most.
I think its good that a coach has a say in it, but the manager is the one deciding wether its economically doable
The past two years, Beppe tring to bring in players that could fit into conte's system, but mostly were economically ideal.
On the other hands, conte had to reshape his team in order to accustom those new players to the most ideal formation.
Now is a time in wich we can sign 1 premium quality player each year. And now obviously, conte wants to have a say, so the purchases fit his formation the most.
I think its good that a coach has a say in it, but the manager is the one deciding wether its economically doable
Some heavy politiccin' to go down soon, then. Conte definitely has the upper hand. He doesn't even risk losing rapport with the fans in all of this. The majority of the fans, anyway. If these negotiations fail and Conte leaves, most juventini will see it as a failure by our board.
And yeah, Klin, Beppe should definitely feel pressured right now. If Conte's demands are true, The Great Man's job and entire function is at risk.
And yeah, Klin, Beppe should definitely feel pressured right now. If Conte's demands are true, The Great Man's job and entire function is at risk.
I read through the links brother, and it seems like a fairly typical report from the Italian media. A sensational touch, whenever possible 
There will be teams after Conte, there can be no doubt about that. Which is why media loves to print off all of this stuff, get a ton of fans really nervous - so that they start checking the news every 10 minutes - which creates a huge swell on their news feed. Very good for business, especially when the Scudetto is wrapped up, and silly season has begun.
Conte has been a bit mysterious, but he's just creating a bit of leverage here, imo. He's trying to distance himself from any idea that because he's Juventino and things are good, he'll just accept whatever conditions the club hands him, and sit happily on the bench. The man wants to be in control - clearly, he needs to feel in control.
However, that being said, let's not forget that he is Juventino, right? For all that talk of him being a professional and not a fan, he is a fan. He's much more than a fan. I really doubt that he'd leave a dream experience after only 2 years, and one unsuccessful CL appearance - that would seem pretty damn incomplete for somebody as ambitious as Conte. For me, this is a leverage game.
I don't think we'll be bumping his salary this soon, can't give the guy a raise every year, although I do think he's worth 5M per year (if we have another good season, he'll probably get it). Anyway, I gotta run, good chatting with you PF.
There will be teams after Conte, there can be no doubt about that. Which is why media loves to print off all of this stuff, get a ton of fans really nervous - so that they start checking the news every 10 minutes - which creates a huge swell on their news feed. Very good for business, especially when the Scudetto is wrapped up, and silly season has begun.
Conte has been a bit mysterious, but he's just creating a bit of leverage here, imo. He's trying to distance himself from any idea that because he's Juventino and things are good, he'll just accept whatever conditions the club hands him, and sit happily on the bench. The man wants to be in control - clearly, he needs to feel in control.
However, that being said, let's not forget that he is Juventino, right? For all that talk of him being a professional and not a fan, he is a fan. He's much more than a fan. I really doubt that he'd leave a dream experience after only 2 years, and one unsuccessful CL appearance - that would seem pretty damn incomplete for somebody as ambitious as Conte. For me, this is a leverage game.
I don't think we'll be bumping his salary this soon, can't give the guy a raise every year, although I do think he's worth 5M per year (if we have another good season, he'll probably get it). Anyway, I gotta run, good chatting with you PF.
Easy there man, board expectations were "reach quarter finals"
we did that and considering our forwards, thats a good thing.
I also think that he doesnt want bigger salary, just better forwards to work with
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TBh, if he actually lands Higuain (OMFG) and Jovetic (WHAT) in the same mercato (WHAT!!)...
...for correct prices....
...sorry but then the great man truely showed he wasent only the perfect manager to get to this point, but also to go to the next
And yeah, conte selecting players and marotta negotiating them, would be nice
we did that and considering our forwards, thats a good thing.
I also think that he doesnt want bigger salary, just better forwards to work with
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TBh, if he actually lands Higuain (OMFG) and Jovetic (WHAT) in the same mercato (WHAT!!)...
...for correct prices....
...sorry but then the great man truely showed he wasent only the perfect manager to get to this point, but also to go to the next
And yeah, conte selecting players and marotta negotiating them, would be nice
Well Beppe would still be useful, but would have more an operational role than a decision making responsibility.
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I think the biggest issue here is not the salary. It's power. Conte wants to pull a Ferguson and control inner areas of the club. The salary thing could be very well made up by the media. But the control thing makes a hell lot of sense.
Anyway let's hope everything goes right. Cheers
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I read through the links brother, and it seems like a fairly typical report from the Italian media. A sensational touch, whenever possible
There will be teams after Conte, there can be no doubt about that. Which is why media loves to print off all of this stuff, get a ton of fans really nervous - so that they start checking the news every 10 minutes - which creates a huge swell on their news feed. Very good for business, especially when the Scudetto is wrapped up, and silly season has begun.
Conte has been a bit mysterious, but he's just creating a bit of leverage here, imo. He's trying to distance himself from any idea that because he's Juventino and things are good, he'll just accept whatever conditions the club hands him, and sit happily on the bench. The man wants to be in control - clearly, he needs to feel in control.
However, that being said, let's not forget that he is Juventino, right? For all that talk of him being a professional and not a fan, he is a fan. He's much more than a fan. I really doubt that he'd leave a dream experience after only 2 years, and one unsuccessful CL appearance - that would seem pretty damn incomplete for somebody as ambitious as Conte. For me, this is a leverage game.
I don't think we'll be bumping his salary this soon, can't give the guy a raise every year, although I do think he's worth 5M per year (if we have another good season, he'll probably get it). Anyway, I gotta run, good chatting with you PF.
There will be teams after Conte, there can be no doubt about that. Which is why media loves to print off all of this stuff, get a ton of fans really nervous - so that they start checking the news every 10 minutes - which creates a huge swell on their news feed. Very good for business, especially when the Scudetto is wrapped up, and silly season has begun.
Conte has been a bit mysterious, but he's just creating a bit of leverage here, imo. He's trying to distance himself from any idea that because he's Juventino and things are good, he'll just accept whatever conditions the club hands him, and sit happily on the bench. The man wants to be in control - clearly, he needs to feel in control.
However, that being said, let's not forget that he is Juventino, right? For all that talk of him being a professional and not a fan, he is a fan. He's much more than a fan. I really doubt that he'd leave a dream experience after only 2 years, and one unsuccessful CL appearance - that would seem pretty damn incomplete for somebody as ambitious as Conte. For me, this is a leverage game.
I don't think we'll be bumping his salary this soon, can't give the guy a raise every year, although I do think he's worth 5M per year (if we have another good season, he'll probably get it). Anyway, I gotta run, good chatting with you PF.
Anyway let's hope everything goes right. Cheers
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